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Luke Ming Flanagan is the new Jackie Healy-Rae

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  • #32
    token101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭token101


    Kurz wrote: »
    Assuming that there are bogs in every corner of the country and not just Roscommon, what exactly is this local issue that he's pushing?

    I had a quick google and it's all Roscommon:

    http://www.roscommonherald.ie/news/kfkfeykfau/

    Enda's been crying about the bog. Cop the **** on Enda, no one's dead.


  • #33
    token101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭token101


    Yakult wrote: »
    I like Ming, down to earth lad!

    That a bog joke?


  • #34
    du Maurier
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭du Maurier


    Logical Fallacy wrote: »
    He's just a bit socially awkward, hardly a crime.


    Almost an oxymoron - a socially awkward politician - in a way. He looks like he needs a good wash though:pac:


  • #35
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    ScumLord wrote: »
    It was national (Dublin) politics that dragged this country into the bubble. He made promises to get elected and his fulfilling those promises. There are bogs all over the country you know it is a national issue, but as usuall if it doesn't include Dublin it's not seen as national or of any importance. :rolleyes:
    I'm not actually from Dublin. Apologies if that damages your preconceptions and forces you to come up with an actual argument.

    And I think you will find that:

    a) It wasn't national politicians who were zoning land to beat the band - that was done by local politicians

    b) If we elected competent legislators to the national legislature instead of local passport-ordering, pothole-fixing, grant-securing, social welfare-meddling, funeral attending, back-scratching, bog-trotting local political 'fixers' (including the likes of Finian McGrath) then perhaps there would have been proper scrutiny of what Fianna Failure spent the last 15 years doing and a proper focus on what benefits the whole country and not the local bog snorkellers or junkies or whatever.


  • #36
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Monty Burnz wrote: »

    I hope Flanagan gets booted out at the next election, it might soften his cough a small bit.

    Lol, he'll waltz in again the next time.
    A more honest and down to earth lad you could not meet.
    I only wish he was still living in Galway so that I could give him my number one.
    Did a mean dance to the stone roses "I wanna be adored" in salthill back in the day too....

    Ps. Jackie Healy-Rae don't jog.


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  • #37
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Kurz wrote: »
    I'm wrong that there are bogs outside of Roscommon?
    Oh, so you were raising an irrelevant point about bogs that nobody else is talking about? Yeah, you were dead right in that case.
    Kurz wrote: »
    Are the raised bogs only in his constituency?
    No, there are a few dotted around the country. This does not mean that his is not a local campaign, or a campaign that is really of very little importance compared to what national legislators should really be concerning themselves with.


  • #38
    mongoman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 669 ✭✭✭mongoman


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    He was elected to the national legislature. His job is to shape national legislation - not get involved in local bog issues. This is exactly the sort of moronic politics that led to the bubble and the crash.

    Maybe you missed the memo, but I suspect every TD since since the foundation of the State, has been elected on the back of local promises that were made.


  • #39
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    mongoman wrote: »
    Maybe you missed the memo, but I suspect every TD since since the foundation of the State, has being elected on the back of local promises that were made.
    And that's turned out really well. We clearly need more of it.


  • #40
    ScumLord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    I'm not actually from Dublin. Apologies if that damages your preconceptions and forces you to come up with an actual argument.
    Your still falling into the Dublin is Ireland trap. Irish bogs are a national issue, Roscommon doesn't hold 100% of the countries bogs this affects many people.

    a) It wasn't national politicians who were zoning land to beat the band - that was done by local politicians
    And that was the root cause of Ireland economic problems? It's only a small part.
    b) If we elected competent legislators to the national legislature instead of local passport-ordering, pothole-fixing, grant-securing, social welfare-meddling, funeral attending, back-scratching, bog-trotting local political 'fixers' (including the likes of Finian McGrath) then perhaps there would have been proper scrutiny of what Fianna Failure spent the last 15 years doing and a proper focus on what benefits the whole country and not the local bog snorkellers or junkies or whatever.
    [/QUOTE] Every one in this country was up to their eyeballs in it, everyone got bought out. If local politicians didn't look out for their own turf then most places around the country would have been completely forgotten about. The people had to do something to look out for their interests because the national agenda didn't focus on anything other than development. Development was put above road safety, sewage and even basic health care. The country at a national level was self serving so the only way to survive at a local level was to be just as self serving.


  • #41
    Kurz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 786 ✭✭✭Kurz


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    He was elected to the national legislature. His job is to shape national legislation - not get involved in local bog issues.
    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Oh, so you were raising an irrelevant point about bogs that nobody else is talking about? Yeah, you were dead right in that case.

    Erm...


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  • #42
    Dots1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Dots1982


    Jackie healy Rae was effectively part of the government almost anytime he was elected. He did this so he could get things done in his constituency in return for voting with the government.

    Ming operates outside the government and I would say will never support any FF or FG led government .

    Not a fan of either but they are in no way alike.


  • #43
    elaney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭elaney


    The fact that you are talking about him indicates that he is doing his job. How many TDs in the dail wont be heard from until the next election.
    He very well respected in Roscommon/Leitrim.


  • #44
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Kurz wrote: »
    Erm...
    A little bog education, if you are interested. Headlines: only a small amount of our bogland is raised bog. Only about 7% of our raised bog remains. That 7% is about half of all the raised bogland in Europe, so it is a rare ecosystem. Increasing mechanisation means that the bogs are being destroyed faster than ever.


  • #45
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    elaney wrote: »
    The fact that you are talking about him indicates that he is doing his job. How many TDs in the dail wont be heard from until the next election.
    He very well respected in Roscommon/Leitrim.
    Just like Jackie Healy-Rae in Kerry.


  • #46
    Frank Black
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    I can't help feeling all this talk about raised bogs and cutting rights is taking away from the real issue I attempted to raise a number of posts back, namely his annoying voice and propensity to shout on radio programmes.


  • #47
    toexpress
    Closed Accounts Posts: 853 ✭✭✭toexpress


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    I used to have time for Flanagan back when he wanted the right to smoke his drugs in peace, but since he got elected he has really lost the run of himself with his turf-cutting nonsense and his carping about just about everything. All he needs is a bit more fat and a bit less hair and Michael Healy-Rae will be facing stiff competition for the role of replacing the disgusting Jackie Healy-Rae in the current Dáil. Mattie McGrath is in with a shout too, but sure I never expected anything of that clown.

    I hope Flanagan gets booted out at the next election, it might soften his cough a small bit.

    Really you seem surprised by this? I can't understand anyone being surprised at the antics of Minger the Merciless he was a shouty bloke on a soapbox that people continued to bat away with all the effort one would invest in batting away a fly so now he has to try and appeal to a bigger crowd in order to get interest and raise his profile.

    I wouldn't be surprised at anything he does a desperado, a crusader without a cause.


  • #48
    angry kitten
    Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭angry kitten


    The guy is an absolute joke. He is a ridiculous little man and frankly is an embarrassment as a political representative. Jesus forbid we see anymore like him. Would it really kill him to dress himself properly and that hair just screams mid-life crisis/aging hippy.


  • #49
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    angry kitten wrote: »
    The guy is an absolute joke. He is a ridiculous little man and frankly is an embarrassment as a political representative. Jesus forbid we see anymore like him. Would it really kill him to dress himself properly and that hair just screams mid-life crisis/aging hippy.


    I agree.
    A charvet shirt wouldn't go amiss........


  • #50
    toexpress
    Closed Accounts Posts: 853 ✭✭✭toexpress


    mikom wrote: »
    I agree.
    A charvet shirt wouldn't go amiss........

    He could nip to Galvins we aren't asking him to spend his hash money on shirts, heaven to betsy we shouldn't expect such things but surely a shirt and tie ...


  • #51
    cournioni
    Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    elaney wrote: »
    The fact that you are talking about him indicates that he is doing his job. How many TDs in the dail wont be heard from until the next election.
    He very well respected in Roscommon/Leitrim.
    Not just in that constituency, he's respected by people around Ireland, including myself. The OP doesn't like Ming because of what he stands for.


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  • #52
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    toexpress wrote: »
    He could nip to Galvins we aren't asking him to spend his hash money on shirts, heaven to betsy we shouldn't expect such things but surely a shirt and tie ...

    Whoosh.

    http://www.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Picture-103.png


  • #53
    toexpress
    Closed Accounts Posts: 853 ✭✭✭toexpress


    cournioni wrote: »
    Not just in that constituency, he's respected by people around Ireland, including myself. The OP doesn't like Ming because of what he stands for.

    He stands for what now?


  • #54
    angry kitten
    Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭angry kitten


    mikom wrote: »
    Whoosh.

    http://www.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Picture-103.png

    Now if only he'd do that more often.


  • #55
    cournioni
    Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    toexpress wrote: »
    He stands for what now?
    http://www.lukemingflanagan.ie/policies/


  • #56
    toexpress
    Closed Accounts Posts: 853 ✭✭✭toexpress


    cournioni wrote: »
    http://www.lukemingflanagan.ie/policies/

    I'm amazed he has the time to form these opinions ... being so chilled on the old hash like.

    Sorry but I can't take anyone with a pony tail who claims to enjoy toking on a joint seriously when he spouts his "policies"

    Also he has a "policy" on mental health, do you think he is aware of the adverse effect of drugs and drug use on mental health?


  • #57
    I am pie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    Stands for hypocrisy. It's green, environment warm and woolly with this bearded sham until it comes down to actually protecting what is a very fragile environment then it's back to feeble populism for the local electorate.

    Deserves nothing but contempt.


  • #58
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    toexpress wrote: »

    Also he has a "policy" on mental health, do you think he is aware of the adverse effect of drugs and drug use on mental health?

    Dail bar irony.

    I heard Minister Reilly drinks.
    Shame on him.

    You sound like a grandad to be fair.


  • #59
    Jev/N
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭Jev/N


    toexpress wrote: »
    Also he has a "policy" on mental health, do you think he is aware of the adverse effect of drugs and drug use on mental health?

    Wow, some tunnel vision there.

    So publican TDs and/or those who drink alcohol, a drug which certainly affects mental health in some, shouldn't have a policy on mental health either then?


  • #60
    cournioni
    Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    toexpress wrote: »
    I'm amazed he has the time to form these opinions ... being so chilled on the old hash like.

    Sorry but I can't take anyone with a pony tail who claims to enjoy toking on a joint seriously when he spouts his "policies"

    Also he has a "policy" on mental health, do you think he is aware of the adverse effect of drugs and drug use on mental health?
    So your problem is that you cannot take someone seriously because of how they look and because they like to smoke cannabis. I wonder do you have a problem with the rest of the politicians who enjoy their bevvies that go down on their expenses sheets. Do you take them as seriously?

    I'm pretty sure he's more aware of what cannabis does to someones health than you are.


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  • #61
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    cournioni wrote: »

    I'm pretty sure he's more aware of what cannabis does to someones health than you are.

    Quoted for truth.


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