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Are You In The Right Job?

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  • #32
    summerskin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    Yakult wrote: »
    summerskin wrote: »
    I'm guessing you are under 25 and still live at home? Either that or a student.

    Either way, get yourself a job and stop making the rest of us support your world of Warcraft subscription.

    Most of the workforce don't enjoy their jobs, but do it to support families or themselves without being a useless leech. Work to live. We use our earnings to fund our hobbies and interests that make life worth living.

    Grow up.

    You don't even know me, so **** off with your stereotyping b/s!
    Part-time job + student btw and don't play that game.

    Theirs no wrong answer, if I want to work a job I have passion about or get enjoyment out of, who are you to tell me different?

    Looks like i was quite accurate. Can't wait until you have to enter the real world and get those ideals knocked out of you. We can't all be astronauts and rocks stars, son.

    Some of us have to pay €25k+ a year in taxes to fund layabouts who want the world handed to them to fulfill their "passion".

    Start contributing and realise that if everyone worked their dream job, society would collapse.


  • #33
    themadchef
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,813 ✭✭✭themadchef


    God i love my job.

    It comes before alot of things, and it eats into my time with my children. In fairness i had it before i had my kids :p and i will have it after they fúck off to college.... kinda helps to feed them too.

    It keeps me sane, it keeps me focused, it keeps me passionate about life. The day you lose that kind of passion in our industry you hang up your apron, or you watch your business fold regardless.


    So yeah, this is the right job for me, though i think i could have turned my hand to most things as im a fairly determined person.


  • #34
    robbie_998
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    MCMLXXV wrote: »
    Can I ask you how old you are Robbie? I know you're in to cars but what other passions do you have? What would you like to do for a living?

    on 20 man.

    yes i do enjoy cars and driving - would be happy with a driving job but the expense of using my own car aswell for working it might not be worth it.

    was considering the other day doing deliveries for a chipper or something but dunno if it wouldve being worth it fuel wise.

    other interesets, working towards management/supervisor.

    dont think i qulify to be a garda :(

    i dunno. i wouldnt mind many things.

    i just hate that in my current job i say the exact same lines atleast 100 tims a day. the exact same script ! :(

    but i'd rather do it than nothing


  • #35
    Bad Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭Bad Panda


    I think I'm in the right job.

    Took a year off a while ago and filled my days maintaining an interest/gaining aspirations in what I'm doing now.

    Looking to expand my horizons over the next two years which I'm looking forward to. Aside from learning something new, I'll be very comfortable for the rest of my life.

    The money side is very important to me too as it will enable me to live the life I want and the life I want for my family if I ever have one.


  • #36
    mysteries1984
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭mysteries1984


    themadchef wrote: »
    God i love my job.

    It comes before alot of things, and it eats into my time with my children. In fairness i had it before i had my kids :p and i will have it after they fúck off to college.... kinda helps to feed them too.

    It keeps me sane, it keeps me focused, it keeps me passionate about life. The day you lose that kind of passion in our industry you hang up your apron, or you watch your business fold regardless.


    So yeah, this is the right job for me, though i think i could have turned my hand to most things as im a fairly determined person.

    Had to read that twice while thinking 'when is he going to tell us what job he's in?'

    D'oh!

    I have an office job. It pays the bills, not a lot else, but am I happy? For the time being, yes. It's varied enough so it doesn't feel like a desk job and I have a great office view (when your last job was in a windowless shed in an industrial estate, these things matter). My dream job is a few years away yet so for now I'm doing just fine where I am, luckily.


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  • #37
    plys
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭plys


    When I hear the phrase 'Work to Live', I think of bohemian types who are less materialistic and more apathetic towards their employment/employer/career. :cool:

    When I hear the phrase 'Live to Work', I think more of driven, motivated go-getters who sacrifice family and social life to spend time at work, or thinking about their job/career. :eek:

    Both of the above are, in fact, polar extremes on a fairly wide spectrum. Most people fall between these two categories.

    I personally fell into the job I'm in by pure chance, but I actually turned out to be quite good at it. I get paid reasonably well and, although I've had a few obstacles along the way, I have managed to build a fairly decent career for myself. I work 60+ hours a week (on salary, no overtime), and would have very little time for anything else eg hobbies etc.

    Maybe this sounds a little like I live to work, but I believe I work to live.

    IMHO anybody who works at their hobby, is bound to get a bit frustrated at times, and lose interest in said hobby too. There are very few jobs/careers which do not bring with them some sort of monotony/repetition/frustration. Even the artist selling out of a small studio in the Ring of Kerry has to deal with the occasional 'customer', and customers, as we know, can be notoriously unpleasant... :)


  • #38
    Big Nasty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,066 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    robbie_998 wrote: »
    on 20 man.

    yes i do enjoy cars and driving - would be happy with a driving job but the expense of using my own car aswell for working it might not be worth it.

    was considering the other day doing deliveries for a chipper or something but dunno if it wouldve being worth it fuel wise.

    other interesets, working towards management/supervisor.

    dont think i qulify to be a garda :(

    i dunno. i wouldnt mind many things.

    i just hate that in my current job i say the exact same lines atleast 100 tims a day. the exact same script ! :(

    but i'd rather do it than nothing

    You seem very undecided dude and you're young enough to do whatever you want. It's one thing saying 'I wouldn't mind many things' but there has to be something out there you would really, really like to do, something that you are passionate about.


  • #39
    Rob67
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭Rob67


    My job is unbearably tedious, it also involves night shifts which makes it unbearably tedious and (seemingly) interminably long.

    I would love to work in another area of the same industry but having no luck finding a position as they rarely come up and usually go to internal candidates.

    Having said that, I have always done what was necessary to earn a wage and support my family, not what I would prefer to do.

    Someday...


  • #40
    foxyboxer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    MCMLXXV wrote: »
    Yeah but the point is you're sat down at 15/16 and made fill out CAO / CAS forms and there's a good chance you won't have a whole lot of interest in the choices you're making.

    Wouldn't it be a whole lot better if you were sat down when you begin secondary and asked 'what do you want to do when you grow up'? I'm not saying an 11/12 year old can possibly know what they want to do with the rest of their life but there's a strong chance they will have already developed passions that they will persue for much of their life.

    For example if the 11/12 year old answered 'I want to be a race car driver' they're obviously in to cars. Even though that would be a very difficult career to persue a good guidance counsellor would (IMO) advise that they take metalwork and woodwork as opposed to geography and French or whatever. They should also advise the child to look forward to getting a part time / summer job at the nearest karting track (karting is where many race drivers begin their careers). The kid is now persuing their current passion and has a much better chance of following their chosen or at least related career. By the time the kid hits 15/16 and it's CAO / CAS time they might realise that racing driving is a bit of a long shot but mechanical engineering or automotive design would enable them to work in an industry they are passionate about.

    This is not what's happening in this country IMO. Instead it appears there's a lot of people out there doing jobs they don't relate to in order to cover the bills. Has to be more to life than that.

    Who hasn't said something along the lines of "If I had my time over I'd do x y z"

    The point about the education system is that perhaps the educators themselves have asked themselves that same question and might suggest changes based on their own experiences.
    Imagine leaving school with a basic grasp of Law, Tax, Finance and Politics. Schooled ignorance indeed.

    IMO once a person can read, write and do arithmetic then they are 'educated'.

    In an ideal world, secondary 'school' would be targeted towards specific field and entrance exams would consist of interviews with the students and parents in what they are interested in. Psychometric exams might take place to determine suitablility. So someone who is good at mathematics would spend 5 years working on projects and subjects geared towards honing those skills or someone who is good at languages would spend 5 years learning various languages.

    Fat chance of that happening though.
    I suggest this because I recall a friend in Secondary school who faced the post Junior Cert choice of French or German and Geography or Chemistry conundrum. Being good at languages his parents suggested the possibility of him doing both French and German instead of the compulsory Accountancy. However, as luck would have it the French and German classes were at the same time and the request could not be accomodated. What a surprise. He ended up having to do the Accountancy class along with everyone else.


  • #41
    Gummy Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    I don't mind my job because of my work colleagues. They're alright otherwise the job would be shít


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  • #42
    robbie_998
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    MCMLXXV wrote: »
    You seem very undecided dude and you're young enough to do whatever you want. It's one thing saying 'I wouldn't mind many things' but there has to be something out there you would really, really like to do, something that you are passionate about.

    I would like to do something driving - as a preference but theres not many driving jobs out there when you look at it.

    as for payment - i'm already on min wage so whereever i end up i would be better off either way.

    but i remember doing a thing in secondary school a few years ago where you filled out a form and it came back with your best preferred job based on your questions.

    i got all the driving jobs like Taxi, limo, train, private, car dealer (sales), etc. so would be happy with them i guess.

    just on some of them i am restricted due to age etc. like taxi, age and expense to get into it.

    others id like would be accountant etc.

    just cant be stuck in a dead end min wage job to be honest.


  • #43
    Friel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 190 ✭✭Friel


    I was in a job that was more a stepping stone for something bigger, so at my age it was the right job. But then I got redeployed and now my job is sh*te. Definitely not where I want to be.


  • #44
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    emzolita wrote: »
    No. I wanna be a baker/confectioner, it used to be a trade that you could learn, but nowadays, you need to have a degree in pastry arts to do it.

    Please tell me this is some kind of joke?


  • #45
    Big Nasty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,066 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    robbie_998 wrote: »
    I would like to do something driving - as a preference but theres not many driving jobs out there when you look at it.

    as for payment - i'm already on min wage so whereever i end up i would be better off either way.

    but i remember doing a thing in secondary school a few years ago where you filled out a form and it came back with your best preferred job based on your questions.

    i got all the driving jobs like Taxi, limo, train, private, car dealer (sales), etc. so would be happy with them i guess.

    just on some of them i am restricted due to age etc. like taxi, age and expense to get into it.

    others id like would be accountant etc.

    just cant be stuck in a dead end min wage job to be honest.

    Car Sales Entry Level Position

    Or would you be interested in apprentice mechanic?


  • #46
    robbie_998
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    [QUOTE=MCMLXXV;7745307[/QUOTE]

    applied for that last week.

    but nice find !

    applying again wont do any harm :)

    (just take it down so nobody else see's :pac: )


  • #47
    cassElliot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭cassElliot


    i want to be in the right job.. i'm the wrong side of my 20's now and doing a phd to get to where i want to work. i've been turned down for funding (thanks recession) and am surviving on fresh air at the minute. i have to work from home (cant afford bus fare) so have made no friends in the new college i'm in.

    i do feel envious of my friends who have full time jobs, a good wage, even though they complain about how stressful their jobs are. its hard not to, i want a certain kind of job but i feel like the means i have to go through to get it are having serious negative effects on my life. everything will be delayed while i'm in college, owning my own home, getting engaged, the list goes on.


    the grass is always greener i suppose. :(:(


  • #48
    Big Nasty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,066 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    Do any of the people saying they are unhappy in their jobs know what they would actually like / love to be working at?

    Would anyone be prepared to throw the towel in in your current job to go chase that profession?

    How would doing this affect you financially?

    Has anyone ever done it - how did it work out?


  • #49
    Sykk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    Yakult wrote: »
    Don't know why you would do something that you have no passion for. Done it before and will not do it again. Would rather stay unemployed than waste my life doing something I don't even like.

    How ridiculous.

    No one likes going to bloody work. If everyone had your attitude where would your precious dole and benefits come from...


  • #50
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    foxyboxer wrote: »
    In an ideal world, secondary 'school' would be targeted towards specific field and entrance exams would consist of interviews with the students and parents in what they are interested in. Psychometric exams might take place to determine suitablility. So someone who is good at mathematics would spend 5 years working on projects and subjects geared towards honing those skills or someone who is good at languages would spend 5 years learning various languages.

    you're assuming here that 'being good at' equates 'wanting to do it' which is a pretty big leap of faith. I agree that in most cases to be good at something you need to have the drive and energy to become good at it but this isnt always the case.

    I can't be the only one in a job they're good at but don't particularly like?


  • #51
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    MCMLXXV wrote: »
    Do any of the people saying they are unhappy in their jobs know what they would actually like / love to be working at? I've a few options that I'd go with if I got the chance.

    Would anyone be prepared to throw the towel in in your current job to go chase that profession? If it was just myself....would have done it a long time ago, whoever once a wife and kids come along this is a pretty big (and terrifying) step to take.

    How would doing this affect you financially? Financial ruin, which isn't really something I could put my family through. Guess I'll just end up being the weird older guy in college once the kids are off on their own :D

    But, that's just me and the choices I make, don't by any means let that put anybody off chasing the dream. A friend of the family used to be a very well paid executive of a financial institutions (not in this country stop your ranting) and one day decided to pack it all in and is now happy as larry being a kindergarten teacher.

    There are examples out there of people doing this succesfully.


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  • #52
    foxyboxer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    wexie wrote: »
    you're assuming here that 'being good at' equates 'wanting to do it' which is a pretty big leap of faith. I agree that in most cases to be good at something you need to have the drive and energy to become good at it but this isnt always the case.

    I can't be the only one in a job they're good at but don't particularly like?

    That's where interviewing the students would come in. As in the school would advertise what it can offer and if the student wants to do that.

    I can't say what I really wanted to do with my life at age 12. But I knew I was good at languages and art but ****e at maths and accountancy.


  • #53
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    Yes that'd be great alright, an actual proper career guidance process.
    Unfortunately with the way things are going here I don't see it likely to happen anytime soon.

    I'm afraid the best kids can hope for are good and passionate teachers who inspire them and parents who empower them to make their own (very well informed) choices.


  • #54
    Sleepy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 25,003 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    MCMLXXV wrote: »
    As boring as it might sound to you or me there are people out there who WANT to be accountants. ;)
    Not enough dull people to fill all the jobs in that area though! ;)
    Like the grease monkey example ones dream job does not have to be an actor or whatever, everyone has their own level, we're just for the most part in the wrong job as far as I can see.
    I agree, career advice in Irish schools was certainly appalling when I was there.

    Mechanic is actually a job I think I'd have enjoyed. Was mad about lego as a child (who am I kidding I got the Type 2 camper set for Christmas as a 31 year old!) and loved anything mechanical. Hadn't done tech drawing in school and wasn't great at maths so never even thought of looking into engineering in college and my mother wouldn't have heard of her children not going to university at the time :rolleyes:

    Reality is, there's lots of lads who'd love to be mechanics, see people enquiring about apprenticeships on the Motoring forum on a weekly basis. There simply aren't enough jobs out there for everyone who'd like to do them. Same with teaching: look at all the people out there trying to get work temping as a teacher.

    If you can get a job that pays the bills and doesn't make you completely miserable, you're doing alright imho.

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  • #55
    emzolita
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭emzolita


    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    Please tell me this is some kind of joke?

    I kid you not,
    http://dit.ie/study/undergraduate/programmes/bakingandpastryartsmanagementdt418/ there's the management course. If you wanna just be a baker, and not own a bakery, you do culinary arts, and specify in Pastry.


  • #56
    Yakult
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    Sykk wrote: »
    How ridiculous.

    No one likes going to bloody work. If everyone had your attitude where would your precious dole and benefits come from...

    Not on the dole?


  • #57
    Sykk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    Yakult wrote: »
    Not on the dole?

    So you either landed a dream job or you're working somewhere you don't like, therefore talking rubbish about rather stay unemployed.

    Therefore you are Mr. Wonka?


  • #58
    MarthaMyDear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 276 ✭✭MarthaMyDear


    Yakult wrote: »
    Not on the dole?

    So your part time job at the moment is your dream job? Since you said earlier you'd never work in a job you weren't passionate about again.

    Lucky you :) I'd love to be that passionate about my part time job!


  • #59
    sebastianlieken
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭sebastianlieken


    This thread has a very negative undertone... so let me say,

    I love my job and it is my dream job. I've worked very hard to get here, but it's exactly what I want to be doing. So i'm a happy camper :)

    now if only they'd move my job somewhere sunnier.... like Australia or Canada... meh, Something to keep working towards. Half the fun is the journey.


  • #60
    nickcave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭nickcave


    Sykk wrote: »
    So you either landed a dream job or you're working somewhere you don't like, therefore talking rubbish about rather stay unemployed.

    Therefore you are Mr. Wonka?

    Those are the only two possibilities, after all.


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  • #61
    TPD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,813 ✭✭✭TPD


    I'm content in my job and can't think of anything I'd rather be doing all day every day.


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