How to go primal (without really trying) - join me?

LoTwan · 01-03-2012 11:52PM

Jason would invite you to stop running, now!

Dotcomdolly · 02-03-2012 10:16AM

LoTwan wrote: »

Jason would invite you to stop running, now!

Ha I'm a rebel! I'll sprint the last 100m of my race to keep him happy.

--Kaiser-- · 02-03-2012 03:11PM

kate.m wrote: »

I've never heard that our ancestors were taller before. Or that their strength capacity was larger. Always the opposite, wondering if you know where I could read about that?

Regarding the lean aspect, well it's kind of assumed considering the manual work to rest ratio they would have had in comparison to the more sedimentary ones we have now.

Early Homo Sapiens were generally bigger and stronger than modern humans. From 10,000 years ago (the dawn of agriculture) humans became smaller and frailer with increased dental caries and decreased bone denisty. Due to better foods (meats etc..) becoming available to a wider part of the population humans have gotten taller and larger.

This link illustrates differences between the skeletons of hunter gatherers and agriculturalists that lived near each other about 500 years ago. The agriculturalists had signs of iron deficiency anemia, osteoporosis and other signs of malnutrition. Most of these were absent for the hunter-gatherers (who also lived longer). An interesting read.

Another good read, this site here shows how hunter-gatherers have fairly good, long and healthy lives as well as heightened senses and strength (including a reference to an account of a man who killed a leopard with his bare hands)

Edit: A caveat on this, the site attempts to assert that animal food is not a large part of the HG diet, analysis of modern HGs would disprove this this statment. And it cites the China Study. No comment

woggie · 02-03-2012 04:32PM

Dotcomdolly wrote: »

I'm more interested in the food than the science

Tonights dinner was
http://nomnompaleo.com/post/2634103005/whole30-deliciousness-dorie-greenspans-when-in-doubt

Really tasty, and :eek: the kids ate cabbage!

I have to thank whoever suggested the avocado in the pan - rashers & avo is a regular breakfast now, keeps you full for so long!

Tried that Meatza last night ...omg ...will never go back to pizza again, it was yummy!!!

Dotcomdolly · 02-03-2012 07:21PM

Dinner was chicken fajitas with all the fixins served in lettuce wrap instead of flour tortilla. So good!

LoTwan · 04-03-2012 04:59PM

I made courghetti today :-) it was yummy!

I listened to Robb Wolfs first podcast and it was a bit boring and long winded. The second one was better.

Dotcomdolly · 04-03-2012 08:45PM

Yeah I can't do robb wolf, too much detail for me, my poor addled mammy brain can't take it in.

On a seperate note I am finding it do tiresome listening to the anti low carb people, luckily everyone in my real life is either not commenting or supportive but online people I would chat to a lot have been downright a pita. Do you opt out or defend your corner?

LoTwan · 04-03-2012 11:30PM

Dotcomdolly wrote: »

On a seperate note I am finding it do tiresome listening to the anti low carb people, luckily everyone in my real life is either not commenting or supportive but online people I would chat to a lot have been downright a pita. Do you opt out or defend your corner?

For the most part I'm not talking about it. My best friend is in the process of making the transition. I had "the talk" with her today... you cannot be "for the most part" paleo... you either are or you aren't.

I talked to my mother about it and got mild interest. A week later I heard about "all the diets that she has seen come and go out of Califawnyah over the years and this is just the newest thing etc." I explained that it is far from new, even if you ignore the several million years ago of the paleolithic age, Loren Cordains book came out more than 10 years ago... so, no, not an over night thing. I had to point out to her that while the Weight Watchers brand has stayed the same, the diet itself has changed over and over since I was a kid and it is NO WHERE CLOSE to what it was in the 80's. She liked my sweet potato and chorizo hash but I don't see her and her high cholesterol making the switch any time soon.

LoTwan · 05-03-2012 08:39PM

I think I have posted about it before but I had The Clothes Make The Girl Lamb Rogan Josh for dinner tonight with mashed sweet potato and it was fantastic! I have left overs for lunch in work tomorrow

PerrinV2 · 05-03-2012 10:08PM

Does anyone ever steam eggs?

SteelyDanJalapeno · 05-03-2012 10:15PM

Never tried, are they not the same as boiled?

PerrinV2 · 05-03-2012 10:22PM

TiltedBrain wrote: »

Never tried, are they not the same as boiled?

I think so but the cooker here...well it plain sucks.Have a steamer so thought I might try them in that,just wondering had anyone tried them steamed?

Dotcomdolly · 05-03-2012 10:44PM

Don't those electric egg cookers actually steam them? They have them in Lidl at the mo btw
Found this linky for you

SteelyDanJalapeno · 05-03-2012 10:44PM

I'm sure they are the exact same, might be harder to judge at what point they're soft medium or hard.....

on a side note, I had a mate with a really poor cooker and he used to boil his eggs in the kettle, he told me this finally after many a cup of tea

PerrinV2 · 05-03-2012 11:18PM

How long would ppl estimate it would take to steam a hard boiled egg?
Think I'll have a go in an hour

thehamo · 06-03-2012 01:00AM

Crisis point. I'm sick to the grind teeth of eating eggs in the morning, what do I do now??

Blatter · 06-03-2012 05:21AM

Fantastic thread, I'm going to pinch most of these recipes and try and get into this myself over the next month or so.

Dotcomdolly · 06-03-2012 08:41AM

PerrinV2 wrote: »

How long would ppl estimate it would take to steam a hard boiled egg?
Think I'll have a go in an hour

That seems really energy inefficient! unless you do a few days worth in one go maybe? Sorry I can't help re the timing, did the article I linked to not say?

thehamo - sometimes I have a "fry" of mushrooms, spinach & cherry tomatoes, I usually add a fried egg but you could add bacon instead
Or fried bacon & avocado is yum
I have been having a boiled egg and a apple with nut butter recently.

noworries · 06-03-2012 10:32AM

thehamo wrote: »

Crisis point. I'm sick to the grind teeth of eating eggs in the morning, what do I do now??

Although not sick of eggs and bacon (how could you be?

), we are varying it up with some smoothies - last night I made some almond milk as the coconut milk, although thoroughly gorgeous, has just a little too much saturated fat for my neo-Paleo OH.

1 cup of almond flakes, 3 cups of water, 1 tsp of vanilla extract - blended and strained through muslin cloth. The remainder of the almonds in the cloth will now be used for paleo'ish brownies. Double nyom!

LoTwan · 06-03-2012 01:20PM

I'm doing on with eggs for breakfast (I had a chorizo, kale & onion omelette this morning) but if I hadn't been taking the rogan josh to work for lunch I would have eaten it for breakfast :-)

The bacon & fried avocado is very good :-)

I saw a recipe for sweet potato, thinly sliced & fried, as a wrap so I'm going to give that a try. You could roll up bacon, avocado, spring onion, pan fried Brussel sprouts with bacon, heck pretty much anything :-)

My outer range quads & glutes left me and went to live with someone else a few decades ago & I'm trying to encourage them to come back home but they are resisting me LOL. My squat is not low enough & the ORQ & ORG are too weak to let me go lower :-(

On a better note I am almost at the floor in my modified push up. Funnily I thought it would be the push up that would stop me moving on but I suspect it will be my ass that won't let me :-(

Dotcomdolly · 06-03-2012 02:04PM

Have you tried putting small weight plates under your heels Lotwan, it can really improve your rom. or some specific hip mobility stuff -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY31J5BeKrg&lr=1
I found that a lot of it is a mental barrier too and feeling the courage to drop you ass right down.

Stench Blossoms · 06-03-2012 02:20PM

Made Kale crisps last night. They were much nicer than the packet I bought.

First batch I made were lovely... half burnt the second batch but they were still nice.

I stink of Kale today though

Dotcomdolly · 06-03-2012 02:29PM

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

Made Kale crisps last night. They were much nicer than the packet I bought.

First batch I made were lovely... half burnt the second batch but they were still nice.

I stink of Kale today though

My OH "jaysis, your breath stinks of kale"
Lol, better than Tayto!

woggie · 06-03-2012 03:27PM

For brekkie I do the 'veggie hash' from everyday paleo - 2 sweet potatoes grated, 2 courgettes grated, 2 shallots diced, mix with 2 eggs and 1tbspn curry 1/2tbspn cinnamon and fry it on pan in coconut oil. I make it up, and store it in tupperware in fridge and does me a few days, great for brekkie with a poached/fried egg on top.

Another one I do is make my own breakfast sausage (i don't use casings so its more a pattie than a sausage), i make a large batch, freeze them and just leave out 2 or 3 at night in the fridge to defrost - fries in a couple of mins on the pan.

I also love the smoothies but tend to keep them for my post w/o meal...i put spinach in mine today, was a bit reluctant to do this as i like my smooties sweet ...but couldn't even taste the spinach and although the colour was a bit gross i felt great knowing i was upping my veggie portions.

Sirlion djion tonight...omg it's lovely, the whole family love it.

SteelyDanJalapeno · 06-03-2012 04:22PM

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

Made Kale crisps last night. They were much nicer than the packet I bought.

First batch I made were lovely... half burnt the second batch but they were still nice.

I stink of Kale today though

What spices are you putting on the Kale?

Dotcomdolly · 06-03-2012 04:25PM

TiltedBrain wrote: »

What spices are you putting on the Kale?

I got a red pepper & garlic grinder in Ldl/aldi (can't rem which) and it is good on it.
woggie - can you give/link recipe for sirloin dijon please.

woggie · 06-03-2012 04:51PM

This is the one on her website
http://everydaypaleo.com/2010/02/22/sirloin-dijon-and-brussel-sprouts/

where she uses heavy cream - but she mentions replacing it with chicken stock instead (and in fact that's whats in her book), anyway i used the stock and it was lovely, also coconut oil rather than olive oil and added kale at the end for a couple of minutes until soft. ....i didn't do the brussel sprouts...there is a limit to the green veg i eat and i definitely draw the line at sprouts !

Dotcomdolly · 06-03-2012 04:58PM

Yum yum, sounds great. I'll keep the double cream

I did cabbage fried (after a brief boiling) with bacon lardons & shallots - would prob be nice with sprouts too...

I got a bag of frozen prepared rhubarb in Dunnes today, only €1...any ideas ? I'm thinking of a "crumble" with ground almonds, cinnamon & walnuts? But will the rhubarb be gack without sugar?

thehamo · 06-03-2012 05:14PM

Dotcomdolly wrote: »

Yum yum, sounds great. I'll keep the double cream
I did cabbage fried (after a brief boiling) with bacon lardons & shallots - would prob be nice with sprouts too...

I got a bag of frozen prepared rhubarb in Dunnes today, only €1...any ideas ? I'm thinking of a "crumble" with ground almonds, cinnamon & walnuts? But will the rhubarb be gack without sugar?

Rhubarb usually needs about half a bag of sugar to make it even romotely edible. I've a feeling your face will be caving in on u if u eat unsweetened rhubarb!

woggie · 06-03-2012 05:15PM

I swear my mummy would be a happy (and smug) woman if she saw how much cabbage/kale i eat these days lol!

i'd say the rhubarb would be quite tart - wonder if something like honey would suffice?

In the ep cook book she does a berry cobbler - her topping is 1 egg mixed with 1.5cups almond meal and 2tbspn coconut oil, stir it up till mixture starts to crumble. crumble it over your berries (rhubarb!) and bake in pre-heated oven (180C) for 35mins

....i haven't tried this yet but have yet to find a bad recipe in her book...you can be our guinea pig :-D

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