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Is gay marriage a threat to humanity?

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  • #272
    Nothingbetter2d
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Nothingbetter2d


    given how many gay priests & pedophile priests there is in the RCC i dont think the pope has much ground to stand on regarding his statement.


  • #273
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Is this thread a threat to humanity??


  • #274
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    44leto wrote: »
    Is this thread a threat to humanity??

    No, just your sanity.


  • #275
    nozzferrahhtoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,367 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    MagicSean wrote: »
    the incest victim would have a warped view of the expected roles in a normal relationship.

    I think by the word victim it is likely we are talking about different things. When I defend incest morally I do so on the assumption it is between consenting adults. Alas we have one word "incest" for consenting siblings on one end and fathers raping babies on the other. For example. Certainly no variety of incest I have debating for morally on here would involve there being a "victim".


  • #276
    nozzferrahhtoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,367 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    hooradiation wrote: »
    That and we apparently have a built in, but not entirely fool proof, "kinship detector" which is supposed to prevent incest.

    What the article essentially says though is that it is all predicated on how long you have spent with the sibling and the mother. Which is essentially related to what I was saying anyway in my sibling relationship suggestion.


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  • #277
    karaokeman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭karaokeman


    I'd say its quite obvious by the results of this poll that more and more people are now supporting gay rights.

    Its quite true also that no one living in the modern world really cares what the church thinks anymore.

    Gays are born gay, they are entitled to basic human rights just like us. Anyone who denies them that right is a threat to humanity.


  • #278
    OldNotWIse
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    What is the definition of humanity?


  • #279
    token101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭token101


    OldNotWIse wrote: »
    What is the definition of humanity?

    Whatever it is the pope says the gays are a threat to it :eek: Burn them, burn them all


  • #280
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Gay marriage isn't a threat to humanity. Selfishness and the dictatorship of selfishness is.


  • #281
    OldNotWIse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,468 ✭✭✭✭OldNotWIse


    Humanity: the totality of experience of existing as a human

    How can two gay people who love each other and are minding their own business interfere with the "experience of existing as a human" for others?


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  • #282
    OldNotWIse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,468 ✭✭✭✭OldNotWIse


    token101 wrote: »
    Whatever it is the pope says the gays are a threat to it :eek: Burn them, burn them all

    Ok so :D I'm looking forward to a good roasting... I was indoctrinated reared a catholic but tbh any establishment that treats women like second class citizens, condones the rape and abuse of innocent children and stigmatises those who were born gay can, as my wonderful Gran says, "go and thump thunder" lol


  • #283
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    OldNotWIse wrote: »
    What is the definition of humanity?
    You dragged this thread back up again to ask that question?


  • #284
    OldNotWIse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,468 ✭✭✭✭OldNotWIse


    smash wrote: »
    You dragged this thread back up again to ask that question?
    So it would seem


  • #285
    Pacifist Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Pacifist Pigeon


    Guys, you should really try kissing another guy, it's fantastic. It's a small bit like kissing a girl except there's a lot more tongue action and your stubble scraps off the other guy's stubble which adds extra sensualness, excitement and pleasure. It's so intense. The only reason straight guy don't do it is because they're afraid of the fear factor of being seen as gay. It's only gay if you like it more than kissing a girl.


  • #286
    OldNotWIse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,468 ✭✭✭✭OldNotWIse


    Pacifist Pigeon wrote: »
    Guys, you should really try kissing another guy, it's fantastic. It's a small bit like kissing a girl except there's a lot more tongue action and your stubble scraps off the other guy's stubble which adds extra sensualness, excitement and pleasure. It's so intense. The only reason straight guy don't do it is because they're afraid of the fear factor of being seen as gay. It's only gay if you like it more than kissing a girl.
    Gawd, I'm a gay woman and you nearly have me convinced to kiss a man from that description :eek:


  • #287
    desertcircus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭desertcircus


    Pacifist Pigeon wrote: »
    Guys, you should really try kissing another guy, it's fantastic. It's a small bit like kissing a girl except there's a lot more tongue action and your stubble scraps off the other guy's stubble which adds extra sensualness, excitement and pleasure. It's so intense. The only reason straight guy don't do it is because they're afraid of the fear factor of being seen as gay. It's only gay if you like it more than kissing a girl.

    This is interesting...when I shaved off my beard for charity, my girlfriend described kissing me as being "like kissing a girl" and refused to kiss me till my beard grew back.

    Also: that's an amusing potential double meaning of "beard".


  • #288
    vixen chaser
    Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭vixen chaser


    Gay marraige is wrong, full stop. I don't consider myself conservative or a gay basher, but gay marraige is unnatural. It's not just the religious aspect of it, itvis also the social. If countries allow this to happen, and in some cases it has, society will simply become disturbed. Marraige is sacred between man and woman. Now in my opinion there are many straight people who only consider marraige simply a day out and before you know it divorce papers are on the table. Divorce in my opinion was the worst thing to happen to this country. Marraige should be for life between man and woman, who then may create a family of their own by reproducing. Gay's can't do that, simply because life wasn't created that way. full stop. I say that with obviously no disrespect to childless hetro couples.


  • #289
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    vixen chaser wrote: »
    Gay marraige is wrong, full stop. I don't consider myself conservative or a gay basher, but gay marraige is unnatural. It's not just the religious aspect of it, itvis also the social. If countries allow this to happen, and in some cases it has, society will simply become disturbed. Marraige is sacred between man and woman. Now in my opinion there are many straight people who only consider marraige simply a day out and before you know it divorce papers are on the table. Divorce in my opinion was the worst thing to happen to this country. Marraige should be for life between man and woman, who then may create a family of their own by reproducing. Gay's can't do that, simply because life wasn't created that way. full stop. I say that with obviously no disrespect to childless hetro couples.
    Unfortunately, to have a valid opinion on marriage one must be able to spell marriage.

    Better luck next time.


  • #290
    grindle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Unfortunately, to have an valid opinion on marriage one must be able to spell marriage.

    Better luck next time.
    + the rest. What the fück is an itvis?


  • #291
    Lollipops23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    vixen chaser wrote: »
    Gay marraige is wrong, full stop. I don't consider myself conservative or a gay basher, but gay marraige is unnatural. It's not just the religious aspect of it, itvis also the social. If countries allow this to happen, and in some cases it has, society will simply become disturbed. Marraige is sacred between man and woman. Now in my opinion there are many straight people who only consider marraige simply a day out and before you know it divorce papers are on the table. Divorce in my opinion was the worst thing to happen to this country. Marraige should be for life between man and woman, who then may create a family of their own by reproducing. Gay's can't do that, simply because life wasn't created that way. full stop. I say that with obviously no disrespect to childless hetro couples.

    who the hell says? marriage is about 2 people in love coming together and declaring themselves as a unit for all the world to see. Kids don't come into the equation- having them doesn't make your marriage any more valid than not.

    Gay marriage is NOT an threat to humanity- surely more people being happy and treated with respect is only a good thing for society...?


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  • #292
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    vixen chaser wrote: »
    Gay marraige is wrong, full stop.
    I don't consider myself conservative or a gay basher, but gay marraige is unnatural. It's not just the religious aspect of it, itvis also the social.
    .


    If you want to be technical, all marriages are "unnatural" as marriage is a human societal construct.
    vixen chaser wrote: »
    If countries allow this to happen, and in some cases it has, society will simply become disturbed. Marraige is sacred between man and woman.
    .

    "sacred" to who and how? There was no formal marriage arrangements via the church until the 1500's, afaik. A blessing was given if requested and that was that.
    vixen chaser wrote: »
    Now in my opinion there are many straight people who only consider marraige simply a day out and before you know it divorce papers are on the table. Divorce in my opinion was the worst thing to happen to this country. Marraige should be for life between man and woman, who then may create a family of their own by reproducing. Gay's can't do that, simply because life wasn't created that way. full stop. I say that with obviously no disrespect to childless hetro couples.

    And if mammy and daddy have to sit there for decades in an atmosphere of mutual hatred, glarin at each other, that'll just build the kids character.

    Do infertile heteroxexual people not have to marry?


  • #293
    vixen chaser
    Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭vixen chaser


    grindle wrote: »
    + the rest. What the fück is an itvis?

    lol, is that all yee can do?. Do you want me to start on how sick the idea of gay marriage is?


  • #294
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    vixen chaser wrote: »
    Gay marraige is wrong, full stop. I don't consider myself conservative or a gay basher, but gay marraige is unnatural. It's not just the religious aspect of it, itvis also the social. If countries allow this to happen, and in some cases it has, society will simply become disturbed. Marraige is sacred between man and woman. Now in my opinion there are many straight people who only consider marraige simply a day out and before you know it divorce papers are on the table. Divorce in my opinion was the worst thing to happen to this country. Marraige should be for life between man and woman, who then may create a family of their own by reproducing. Gay's can't do that, simply because life wasn't created that way. full stop. I say that with obviously no disrespect to childless hetro couples.

    LOL
    That is a very conservative view, republican true and blue. There are gay couples with children, some from a marriage which broke up and all research confirms it to be healthy family life. Whether you believe marriage is for life without the possibility of parole that is just simply not the reality, marriages break up. Also some marriages remain childless, be it for medical reasons or reasons of choice, but marriage is not solely about children.

    If you are not for gay marriage, don't enter one, simple. But gay people have a right to see their union recognized by law and not the present second class citizen compromise that is civil partnership.


  • #295
    grindle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle


    vixen chaser wrote: »
    lol, is that all yee can do?. Do you want me to start on how sick the idea of gay marriage is?

    Go on, please, I'm a bit of a perv.


  • #296
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    vixen chaser wrote: »
    lol, is that all yee can do?. Do you want me to start on how sick the idea of gay marriage is?

    Amuse us. You never know, you might actually come out with some fallacy I haven't heard before.

    Or you could just admit you don't like 'gays' and therefore gay marriage would be a double no-no for you.


  • #297
    Spoonman75
    Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Spoonman75


    vixen chaser wrote: »
    Gay marraige is wrong, full stop. I don't consider myself conservative or a gay basher, but gay marraige is unnatural. It's not just the religious aspect of it, itvis also the social. If countries allow this to happen, and in some cases it has, society will simply become disturbed. Marraige is sacred between man and woman. Now in my opinion there are many straight people who only consider marraige simply a day out and before you know it divorce papers are on the table. Divorce in my opinion was the worst thing to happen to this country. Marraige should be for life between man and woman, who then may create a family of their own by reproducing. Gay's can't do that, simply because life wasn't created that way. full stop. I say that with obviously no disrespect to childless hetro couples.

    You're right. Gay marriage is unnatural. So is heterosexual marriage. Marriage is a human construct. Can you show evidence that society will become disturbed? What exactly do you mean by disturbed?

    And yes, Gays and Lesbians can have children. All they need is a willing woman and a turkey baster.


  • #298
    Nyan Cat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭Nyan Cat


    Marriage is not natural either (straight marriage) it didnt just evolve like a flower. Humans created it/decided that marriage was the way for them however you want to phrase it. 'natural' suggests it grew or always existed, cane about without help or something.

    And of course the sole purpose of marriage is to create babies... Nothing to do with love, a mutual desire to spend your life with that person, a binding commitment etc. babies are really only a small part of it. Not everyone who marries have babies either.
    If the sole rule for marriage is that they must create children, should people with the inability to procreate be excluded from marrying? Of course not


  • #299
    MagicMarker
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    Spoonman75 wrote: »
    What exactly do you mean by disturbed

    It means you'll catch teh ghey.


  • #300
    grindle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle


    Spoonman75 wrote: »
    You're right. Gay marriage is unnatural. So is heterosexual marriage. Marriage is a human construct. Can you show evidence that society will become disturbed? What exactly do you mean by disturbed?

    And yes, Gays and Lesbians can have children. All they need is a willing woman and a turkey baster.

    I'l translate that for the ol' chas-a-tron, will I?

    "Your rihgt. Gay marraige is unatural. Sovis hertosexual marraige. Marraige is idea thing. Can you show idea truth that all peeple will be disturbed? What exactly do you mean by disturbed?

    And yes Gay"s and Lesbian"s can have children. All they need is willing notman and a turkey baster."


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  • #301
    Spoonman75
    Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Spoonman75


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    It means you'll catch teh ghey.
    I guess I'll have to get vaccinated from it. It works. Some guy told me once.


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