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Is gay marriage a threat to humanity?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭timesnap


    , not a homophobe[/QUOTE}

    are you sure your not?


    but I just can't see how people can be homosexuals.

    hire a gay porn movie and you will see how *they* do it.

    Sorry to offend people,

    Oh no your not!
    but whenever you see a gay couple they always go over board with the whole lovey dovey stuff

    Ah you prefer the whole hate ya hate ya stuff?
    and reckon its probably easier for a homosexual to get sex then a straight person(without Paying that is) hence i am trying to get a rise from the homosexuals...

    FYP!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    QUOTE]Perhaps your words are failing you due to the fact that you do not appear to be using them correctly. :)

    In fairness, he has demonstrated that problem a lot in this thread.
    Its not exactly a threat because its not like the whole world is gonna turn gay, would 5% be a reasonable estimated statisic? In saying that I don't agree with it, not a homophobe but I just can't see how people can be homosexuals. I personally think homosexuality is completely based entirely on one been a nympho. Sorry to offend people but whenever you see a gay couple they always go over board with the whole lovey dovey stuff and reckon its probably easier for a homosexual to get sex then a straight person(without oaying that is) hence the rise of the homosexual...

    I think it's about 3.8% according to an article i read recently.

    Not sure i buy the rest of the post...just kind of seems like you are over generalising towards straight and gay people.

    I know plenty of straight folk getting plenty of sex, and i know gay people who never manage to get themselves laid.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,649 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Overpopulation is a bigger threat.

    If homosexuality is an evolutionary development, go on then.


  • Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭IrishJack89


    timesnap wrote: »
    hire a gay porn movie and you will see how *they* do it.

    Sorry to offend people,

    Oh no your not!



    Ah you prefer the whole hate ya hate ya stuff?



    FYP!

    The first part of your post was really stupid, the second part was pretty stupid and the last part was plain stupid. Fair play! Your getting better, maybe next you'll post something thats worth acknowledging :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭emmetmurphy


    fedor.2. wrote: »
    LoL at number 4, ye crazy gheys:D
    What about no 8


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭emmetmurphy


    I heard homless guys suck the gay lads off at the side of De George for money
    True? Untrue?


  • Registered Users Posts: 324 ✭✭Wereghost


    ^ Only one way to find out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,933 ✭✭✭Daith


    I heard homless guys suck the gay lads off at the side of De George for money
    True? Untrue?

    Why would gay lads in the George need to venture outside? It's one big orgy in there!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭emmetmurphy


    I was taling about the ones that dont pull inside ( the Ugly ones)
    But i take it as a no anyway


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭emmetmurphy


    You know the wat there are Renter boys for Gay lads is there Renter Girls for the Girls cause u never hear them being mentioned


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Overheal wrote: »
    Overpopulation is a bigger threat.

    If homosexuality is an evolutionary development, go on then.

    Homosexuality among men won't even contribute to de-population. FFS, one man can raise an entire population every time he ejaculates.

    Homosexuality among women is more worrying though when it comes to de-population. But all women (even Lesbians) are just mad for children by the time they're 35, so even then homosexuality won't contribute to de-population.

    Theoretically speaking, all you need is one straight man in the world to keep the human race going.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭Genghiz Cohen


    Theoretically speaking, all you need is one straight man in the world to keep the human race going.

    It'll never happen, women would never want a man to be that happy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭El Siglo


    Theoretically speaking, all you need is one straight man in the world to keep the human race going.

    "We need rest. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is spongy and bruised."

    ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,336 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    RichieC wrote: »
    Shoit.. I've been saying Holy sea all these years.. what an idiot :o

    Not as good as Dave Allen's old story of first learning to bless himself at a funeral and being convinced that the mantra was "In the name of the father, and of the son, and into the hole he goes".
    Min wrote: »
    Are gay couples going to say that now that nature itself must change as it discriminates against them when it comes to having children that are biologically from both of the gay couple?

    If they do then we can deal with that. However maybe it would be more productive to deal with what they do say rather than imagined lunatic ravings you invent on their behalf?

    Plus be somewhat careful about talking about Traditions. Marriage as it is now has not been the norm for as long as you may think. As they say however about people like the Pope... the ideas espoused based on these books appear to be indistinguishable from personal opinion.
    Don't tell me a kid growing up with two Daddies is not going to get absolutely hounded for his/her entire childhood.

    So do the children of red headed parents at times. And Handicapped parents. I guess we should be sterilizing them too under your lovely little population control program. Oh and children of single parents should likely be rehomed because they get hounded for only having one parent. Also may as well just terminate them if they have to wear glasses as they get hounded for that too.
    Of course they are. Usually when this issue is brought up some gobshh1te chimes in with "kids get beaten in school for being, fat, speccy, freckled, ginger, black......".

    Oh look the old "I know why the point is wrong so I am going to pre-empt people showing it is wrong by calling them names in advance" trick. Much easier to call names rather than deal with valid points.... especially if your idea of an intellectual reply to a post is "Yak yak yak", content which says more about you than anyone else.

    And the fact is that it is a valid point to highlight the fact that children get hounded and bullied all the time..... usually a target is picked first and justification for the bullying tacked on in retrospect.

    If a kid if going to get bullied, the kid is going to get bullied. Having gay parents will just be the retrospective justification for it, or the material used for it. If not that, something else will be found and if nothing can be found something will be made up.
    MagicSean wrote: »
    When it comes to adoption the rights of the parents take second place to what is best for the child. There is no point dismissing the bullying aspect with some emotional tripe about banning gingers from having children.

    It is not emotional tripe, it is valid analogy to highlight the weakness of the argument. The bullying argument is made usually by those who have little or no idea about the dynamics of bullying. It attributes more thought process to the system than actually occurs.

    Bullying is a cowardly act based on a coward finding an easy target, someone weaker or more vulnerable than them. Someone who will not stand up to them, retaliate etc. That is how bullys pick targets.

    Retrospectively they will then find material to use during the bullying and to justify the bullying. Hair color, some aspect of the childs parents, physical prowess, facial or body differences. Anything that they can single out as "different".

    In other words having gay parents is not going to fuel more bullying. If the kid will be bullied he or she will be bullied, regardless of the sexual configuration of the parental unit. Having chosen the target, if that target has gay parents THEN this will be used in the bullying. If not then something else will be found or... simply made up.

    If a child is going to be bullied then simply legislating that his adoptive parents will not be gay is going to do literally nothing to prevent it. The bullying argument is just scaremongering nonsense from the naysayers in this context.

    Also two wrong do not make a right. The "bullying" argument is taking a crime perpetrated by others and curtailing the rights of others based on it. If someone is a bully then that is their crime and a problem to be resolved... it is not the justification to throw out the total non-sequitur "Therefore gay people should not be allowed adopt". It makes as much sense as saying "Some people steal expensive cars, therefore people should not be allowed buy expensive cars". Or it smacks of the kind of rhetoric of "Women should not dress sexy in case they get raped". The crimes of one group are not a valid argument in a discussion on the rights of a completely separate group yet this is the kind of rhetoric being offered here.
    Final point

    I think most of us doubt that, probably even yourself. Time will tell.....
    People bringing up Martin L King....

    ... did not take long did it.
    Check my first post in this thread. Moronic arguement.

    Thankfully we do not live in a world where simply dismissing arguments by calling them moronic actually makes the arguments go away, or take on the attribute of being moronic. Invective such as this is just a replacement for a retort which you do not have and highlights.... like waving a massive flag.... that you do not have.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭emmetmurphy


    Father Damo are you really a Priest.?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭ItsAWindUp


    The kind people, have a wonderful dream. Benedict on the guillotine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    ItsAWindUp wrote: »
    The kind people, have a wonderful dream. Benedict on the guillotine.

    The people won't have too long to wait,
    for creeping age will soon seal his fate.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Forcing a young teenage boy to join Hitler Youth does not make someone a Nazi

    Well unless you were expecting him to pick up a gun and join the resistance or skip the border to Switzerland

    He was young, it's not something you can use decades later

    Weeeeeeeeell. The same guys institution seems to think the exact same thing applies for small babies who are baptised into catholicism. Sauce for the goose...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Gay marriage in this thread and another about a potential mixed race marriage, what ever happened to holy catholic ireland. If the pope came here now there is no way he would say "young people of ireland I love you".

    It's amazing why the state and the church of present and the past has always entered into the natural affairs of peoples relationships. There is a need for the state to be there because of the legal complications of any relationship. But the churches have no business there, they are not IMO even entitled to an opinion.

    In many states mixed marriages were once illegal, I really do not see any problems with same sex marriage, its not for me, but that does not mean is shouldn't be for anyone else that wants one, Good luck to them and I wish them well. At this stage I think the times are on their side.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 19,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Weeeeeeeeell. The same guys institution seems to think the exact same thing applies for small babies who are baptised into catholicism. Sauce for the goose...

    Exactly - taking a young child, forcing them to join an organisation that indoctrinates them into believing that that organisation is the only voice of truth, forces them to conform by employing the double ended sword of 'if you belong - you will be a member of the elite/ disobey and you will be severly punished has no long term effects on that child. It does not shape their thinking as adults whatsoever...

    My ex sister in law is German, her mother was one of those 'forced' to join the Hitler Youth. First question she asked my brother when she met him 'are there any Jews in Ireland?', when he replied there was (at the time Gerald Goldberg was Lord Mayor of Cork) she told him Ireland should get rid of the Jews because 'they take all the money!'.
    She in turn passed this ****e on to sister-in-law, who one day was horrified to her her own voice declare that 'Gypsies should be gassed'...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Phill Ewinn


    Thread reminds me of that TV piss take of Elton John and the adopted son that lives next door.


  • Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭margio


    If people love each other they should be allowed to marry. Regardless of gender. Marriage is not a Catholic institution, it is a state institution (secular marriage in a registry office) as well as an institution in other religious faiths.


    For someone who has never had sex he seems to be running his mouth when he has not got a clue about what he is talking about.

    you don't seriously think that Papa Ratz is a Virgin?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    This thread stinks..just a forum to bash catholics. Any mods around,no?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    This thread stinks..just a forum to bash catholics. Any mods around,no?
    If you don't like a post then report it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Report any posts you think are offensive


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭Genghiz Cohen


    This thread stinks..just a forum to bash catholics. Any mods around,no?

    More for bashing gay-bashers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    efb wrote: »
    Report any posts you think are offensive
    There are so many I would not know where to start. but that's just my personal opinion....


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    There are so many I would not know where to start. but that's just my personal opinion....

    You would start at the ones that offend you i reckon.

    My personal opinion is you don't actually care as much as you wish you did.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    There are so many I would not know where to start. but that's just my personal opinion....

    Start at the one that you believe warrants the mods attention, because back seat modding is frowned upon.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    efb wrote: »
    There are so many I would not know where to start. but that's just my personal opinion....

    Start at the one that you believe warrants the mods attention, because back seat modding is frowned upon.
    Frowned upon eh? But calling the Pope a Nazi or wanting to see him on a guillotine is acceptable?


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