The Avengers (2012) *spoilers from post 1181*

While this is still only Whedon's second major movie, the first was a modern sci-fi classic, better than the majority of the Star Wars movie IMO [ANH and ESB still better than Serenity]. If he can come close to that, the fanboys will be happy.

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

One thing to remember about that, though, is that with Serenity, Whedon was working with characters he created. He'll be a little more restricted with The Avengers. I do think he's defo the right man for the job though!

I reckon this will be better than Captain America anyway. My fave of the lead up movies was Thor. I think they all slightly suffered from being origin stories that then needed to tack on a final battle in the end to bring them to a crescendo and, for me, Thor was the only one that kept up the quality.


Iron Man was crap in the last 30 mins.
The Incredible Hulk final battle was cool but just a little boring.
Iron Man 2 final battle sucked balls.
Captain America just kinda suddenly ended out of nowhere.


With Thor, the character's identity was already defined; there was no "how do I get used to my powers" crap either. His arc was centred around getting comfortable with not being a superhero, in a way. The final battle was just kind of a return to form but him

defeating the big metal dude

wasn't really the crescendo of the story; his

sacrificing his life and thus becoming worthy of the hammer again

was the peak.


Kinda rambled off-topic there.... Basically, if Whedon can make me enjoy The Avengers as much as I enjoyed Thor, I'll be chuffed!

the great thing about whedon is he loves the characters so its not like he had to do extensive research on em.

a couple of years ago he did a few arcs on an X men book created soley for him (astonishing xmen) and it showed a great appreciation of the marvel universe. fox even nicked some of the ideas and characters from that to make X3 - though needless to say buggered that up.

if whedon can do with avengers what he did with serenity i.e reintroduce characters and their relationships in a film that'd appeal to fans of the firefly show and general cinema going public ill be happy.

hell i didnt SEE any of firefly before serenity and slid right into their universe and got their relationships right of the batt. it was fun to watch the series and learn more, but i got the core of them up in that film.

the bloke has to juggle giving us a good adventure like that, and not relying on everyone having seen ironman/cap/thor/hulk. then he's gotta universe build a bit too boot to properly set shield , nick fury and co in stone, along with the villains.

no mean feat but i think he can pull it off.

more than that the last trailer for the film genuinely does look like were getting a threat that could only be beaten by all the lads together as opposed to "iron man 3 : meet me mates ".

this is an ensemble piece where hopefully theyll all get to shine and with , like youve said, many of the origins already in place im starting to get a really good feeling that this will kick arse.

hell its something i think whedon himself would HATE to **** up as its basically a fanboy dream to do and he's got the gig.

Sad Professor wrote: »

And who is Renner's character again? I get why Johansson is there, but some guy with a bow and a silly costume, really? I'm not a comic book reader as you can tell.

Come at me bro!