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Constitution halts sheriff megamerge

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  • #32
    TheZohanS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Ghandee wrote: »
    Came across this video on a mates fb page

    Did you run out of regular pron?


  • #33
    xzanti
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,464 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    There have been a couple of threads put up about this already..

    A live one in the Legal Forum at the moment afaik..

    Fair play to the main guy speaking.. I heard him being interviewed on the radio the other day.. He's just a humble Electrician who has armed himself with information...

    Good on him..


  • #34
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    TheZohan wrote: »
    Did you run out of regular pron?



    Yeah, back to good old fashioned porn now. Fappin away again like a goodun!:D


  • #35
    Captain_Generic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭Captain_Generic


    I want to be called a sheriff...


  • #36
    Mr. Presentable
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,495 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    Seems to me if he still owes on his mortgage the house is not yet his, so while the spokesman is eloquent he is wrong. Plus he does himself no favours with his Courts are corporate entities freeman cobblers.


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  • #37
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    I thought he was a bit of a gob****e tbh, the sheriff remained so cool. He is my hero in all this. I think your man was trying to get him to lose the head.


  • #38
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    xzanti wrote: »
    . I heard him being interviewed on the radio the other day.. He's just a humble Electrician who has armed himself with information...

    Good on him..
    That's shocking. :p


  • #39
    Phill Ewinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Phill Ewinn


    Mr. Presentable wrote: »
    Seems to me if he still owes on his mortgage the house is not yet his, so while the spokesman is eloquent he is wrong. Plus he does himself no favours with his Courts are corporate entities freeman cobblers.

    Lol . Wrong on all counts.


  • #40
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    Mr. Presentable wrote: »
    Seems to me if he still owes on his mortgage the house is not yet his, so while the spokesman is eloquent he is wrong. Plus he does himself no favours with his Courts are corporate entities freeman cobblers.

    Agreed about the house/mortgage not being paid for, but was he telling the truth about the common law thing?
    (serious question)

    I admire the Gards in the video, think they acted very impartially indeed.


  • #41
    Phill Ewinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Phill Ewinn


    Join the aul youtube and friends that group or whatever. There's a little bit of payback instore for these corrupt officials.


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  • #42
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    hondasam wrote: »
    I thought he was a bit of a gob****e tbh, the sheriff remained so cool. He is my hero in all this. I think your man was trying to get him to lose the head.

    Well I disagree, I think the sheriff got tied in knots by an ordinary member of the public.

    I know if I was in his (probably) highly paid job, I'd sure as hell make it my business to know the inns and outs of the law, ref the constitution etc.

    There was one stage were he mumbled like a buffoon, and was jeered by the crowd as if he was one.


  • #43
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Ghandee wrote: »
    A

    I admire the Gards in the video, think they acted very impartially indeed.
    They had no choice, they more than expected this episode to go viral and the last thing they would want would be bad PR particularly since the subject is such a sore point in the country.


  • #44
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Ghandee wrote: »
    I admire the Gards in the video, think they acted very impartially indeed.

    Is that not their job?


  • #45
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    hondasam wrote: »
    Is that not their job?

    Of course it is, hence me admiring them for being so good at 'their job'.

    If they were crap, I'd hardly admire them now?


  • #46
    Spread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    Ghandee wrote: »
    Agreed about the house/mortgage not being paid for, but was he telling the truth about the common law thing?
    (serious question)

    I admire the Gards in the video, think they acted very impartially indeed.

    Interesting discussion. Plenty of anomolies in law ......... that's how solicitors make their wonga.
    As for admiring the Gardai in the video? Jesus H Christ - that's what they're paid to do. As regards impartiality? The basic rule of nature won the day ........ self preservation. Two of them plus gimp against maybe twenty on the other side of the wall


  • #47
    djk1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 899 ✭✭✭djk1000


    It was a complete load of freeman bollox. He didnt win any argument, the sheriff and gardai were outnumbered. The sheriff was there to evict but wasn't expecting a confrontation. The gardai were there to ensure public order.

    They left but they'll be back and next time the sheriff will have a court order for the gardai to assist and there will be plenty of Garda backup.

    Arguments re the constitution and common law make no sense, spreading this bull**** is dangerous and will cause huge misery for desperate people.


  • #48
    Spread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    djk1000 wrote: »
    It was a complete load of freeman bollox. He didnt win any argument, the sheriff and gardai were outnumbered. The sheriff was there to evict but wasn't expecting a confrontation. The gardai were there to ensure public order.

    They left but they'll be back and next time the sheriff will have a court order for the gardai to assist and there will be plenty of Garda backup.

    Arguments re the constitution and common law make no sense, spreading this bull**** is dangerous and will cause huge misery for desperate people.

    If he didn't anticipate a confrontation, why the Guardai? Surely not just to appear on youtube in uniform


  • #49
    Orim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Orim


    These people are as bad as any of the top bankers in this country. I'm going to get me a mortage and not pay it in the hopes that a youtube video will let me keep the house.

    People at all levels of this county need to take some responsibility and pay what they owe.


  • #50
    StupidLikeAFox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,915 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    Fair play to him for making a stand, excellent points were made and he caught the sheriffs deputy off guard however....

    If the guy got the mortgage to buy the house he has to pay back the money. I don't know his circumstances but if he was paying back what he owed this wouldn't be happening. Its ridiculous to accept and spend other peoples money and expect to shrug off that responsibility when it comes to paying it back

    Also claiming not to be educated at the time of the court case isnt good enough. Ignorance of the law isnt a defence as far as i know


  • #51
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Ghandee wrote: »
    Of course it is, hence me admiring them for being so good at 'their job'.

    If they were crap, I'd hardly admire them now?

    Were they not just there to make sure the sheriff did not get attacked.


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  • #52
    Phill Ewinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Phill Ewinn


    djk1000 wrote: »
    It was a complete load of freeman bollox. He didnt win any argument, the sheriff and gardai were outnumbered. The sheriff was there to evict but wasn't expecting a confrontation. The gardai were there to ensure public order.

    They left but they'll be back and next time the sheriff will have a court order for the gardai to assist and there will be plenty of Garda backup.

    Arguments re the constitution and common law make no sense, spreading this bull**** is dangerous and will cause huge misery for desperate people.

    Watch the video again for yourself. What you've done there is jump to conclusions without making any effort to understand what was going on.

    Three completely legal points were made. In common law or any other law in this countrys constitution. The ''sheriff'' was posing as something he simply wasn't.

    The circuit court didn't have jurisdiction over the value of the property in that case and the court registrar was also acting as sheriff. That's a summary.
    That ''sheriff'' bloke was in the wrong, got found out and promptly fecked off.


  • #53
    TeddyTedson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Hats off to that man. Refreshing to see.


  • #54
    TeddyTedson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    hondasam wrote: »
    Were they not just there to make sure the sheriff did not get attacked.
    They were there to uphold the constitution it seems:P
    But fair play to them for not getting.... excited shall we say.
    Although the first Gard is a bit lost when asked if he's under oath.

    Unfortunately all they've managed to do here though is delay the inevitable. I'm not sure why exactly, but I heard your man talking today and he said there was something they can do to go about it another way or something...


  • #55
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    hondasam wrote: »
    I thought he was a bit of a gob****e tbh, the sheriff remained so cool. He is my hero in all this. I think your man was trying to get him to lose the head.

    Are you serious? Could the sheriff have been a bigger gobshyte. @ 07.13 minutes in he comes out with...“I don’t want to see the constitution, I’m not a solicitor.” I mean what a fúcking twit. I think the regular Joe behind the gate did a great job and actually made the sheriff look like a right muppet.


  • #56
    YumDeiseMum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 467 ✭✭YumDeiseMum


    Yer man was on the morning show with Sybil and Martin today, he said that the homeowner in question is giving back the keys of the house to the bank because the sheriff has said that they'll come back like thieves in the night to evict him and his family.


  • #57
    Orim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Orim


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    Hats off to that man. Refreshing to see.

    Bollix. As far as I can see the man took a loan and couldn't repay it and is now tying to hide behind a load of smoke and mirrors.

    I took a two year loan befoe. After about a year I lost my job. I kept repayng my loan. Six months down the line I couldn't find a job. I then moved back to my mother's house so I could continue to meet my fianacial obligations such as the loan I took out.

    This is the problem with this country, for all the bitching eveyone is willing to let someone off an obilgation as long as that person is a bit cute about it.


  • #58
    StupidLikeAFox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,915 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    YumDeiseMum wrote: »
    Yer man was on the morning show with Sybil and Martin today, he said that the homeowner in question is giving back the keys of the house to the bank because the sheriff has said that they'll come back like thieves in the night to evict him and his family.

    Is that a direct quote...? :D


  • #59
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Corvus Maximus wrote: »
    Are you serious? Could the sheriff have been a bigger gobshyte. @ 07.13 minutes in he comes out with...“I don’t want to see the constitution, I’m not a solicitor.” I mean what a fúcking twit. I think the regular Joe behind the gate did a great job and actually made the sheriff look like a right muppet.

    Your man was a good speaker and knew what he was talking about, I still think the sheriff remained calm.
    They are just delaying the inevitable, he borrowed the money now he can't repay it.
    If this eviction is illegal does that mean all other evictions were as well?


  • #60
    Plautus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭Plautus


    Phill Ewinn wrote: »
    Watch the video again for yourself. What you've done there is jump to conclusions without making any effort to understand what was going on.

    Three completely legal points were made. In common law or any other law in this countrys constitution. The ''sheriff'' was posing as something he simply wasn't.

    The circuit court didn't have jurisdiction over the value of the property in that case and the court registrar was also acting as sheriff. That's a summary.
    That ''sheriff'' bloke was in the wrong, got found out and promptly fecked off.

    I watched the video. It's freeman woo. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Where in law does it say that the county registrar, an official analogous to the Master of the High Court, cannot also act as a Sheriff? Citing 'Separation of Powers', as this guy did, is complete bollocks: that's not what 'separation of powers' means. The Registrar does not act as a 'private company' when he's also the Sheriff enforcing an eviction notice.

    An order for possession of the Circuit Court (for Ulster Bank) was upheld in the High Court by Justice Michael Peart on this house in January. Leave for Judicial Review was refused as no significant point of law of public interest was at stake. Pursuant to the order for possession, an eviction notice was sent by the Registrar and executed by the Sheriff. The Sheriff need not be present in person and can send an authorised deputy to effect the eviction.

    What will you come out with next - "statute isn't law" or similar cobblers?

    This guy has some 'understanding' of the Constitution alright. A tendentious and entirely misleading one, that is.


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  • #61
    TeddyTedson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Orim wrote: »
    Bollix. As far as I can see the man took a loan and couldn't repay it and is now tying to hide behind a load of smoke and mirrors.

    I took a two year loan befoe. After about a year I lost my job. I kept repayng my loan. Six months down the line I couldn't find a job. I then moved back to my mother's house so I could continue to meet my fianacial obligations such as the loan I took out.

    This is the problem with this country, for all the bitching eveyone is willing to let someone off an obilgation as long as that person is a bit cute about it.
    Bollocks right back at you. Smoke and mirrors. WTF. Did you watch the video?


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