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MS sufferer rides wheelchair for 2 hours to kill herself

  • 24-02-2012 02:02PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭


    http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/tragedy-of-ms-sufferer-who-rode-wheelchair-for-two-hours-to-kill-herself-3030718.html
    AN MS sufferer travelled for two hours in an electric wheelchair to commit suicide in a canal - after her twin sister refused to buy her flight to the Dignitas clinic in Switzerland.

    The day before Carol Hutchins died, she arrived home in floods of tears after the lever on her buggy had jammed leaving her unable to throw herself over a 3ft fence and into the water.

    Determined to end her life, Mrs Hutchins returned to the canal the following day and got the mechanism working to lift the chair above the height of the fence.

    The 53-year-old waited until a crew of workmen cleaning graffiti nearby went on a break before heaving her body, which was immobile from the chest down, into the water.

    When the labourers returned to the towpath of the Kennet and Avon Canal in Reading, Berks., they found the empty wheelchair and then spotted Carol floating face-down in the water.

    Police constable Victoria Blaszko (corr) leapt over the 3ft fence and dragged the middle-aged woman's body from the water as fellow officers, firefighters and paramedics rushed to the towpath.

    Mrs Hutchins, who had been described as a vibrant woman with a "larger than life personality", was taken to hospital where she was declared dead shortly after arrival on October 22 last year.

    A post mortem examination gave the cause of her death as drowning.

    The Berkshire coroner heard that Mrs Hutchins was diagnosed with MS in 1989 and had taken part in marathons before MS ravaged her body and left her wheelchair bound.

    Her sister, Ingrid Foan, said that in July 2010 her depressed sister was unable to do anything for herself and begged her to buy a one way plane ticket to Switzerland so she could end her life.

    "She was terrified by what was happening to her," she tearfully told the hearing in Windsor, Berks.

    She told how her sister had said that she had "lost everything and didn't want to live like this anymore," and had previously spoken of throwing herself into the canal.

    Ingrid explained that after a 10-week hospital stay her sibling's condition had improved and she was able to do much more for herself.

    Carol's devastated parents, Alec and Ursula, said they believed their daughter had planned to end her life before her condition worsened further and she could no longer control her destiny.

    Mr Hutchins said: "We think she planned it while she was in hospital.

    "She didn't involve anyone else. She knew exactly what MS was and what it was doing to her."

    When asked whether they thought Carol had taken her own life, Mr Hutchins replied: "I'm in no doubt."

    In recording his verdict coroner Peter Bedford said that Carol was suffering from a "horrible" disease at the time of her death.

    "From the evidence given to me I am quite satisfied that Carol Hutchins died on October 22 last year at the Royal Berkshire Hospital and that she took her own life while suffering from multiple sclerosis and depression."

    Speaking before the hearing Mr Hutchins called for assisted suicide to be legalised.

    "Carol was a very courageous woman but at the end of the day she has demonstrated a need for euthanasia in this country," he said.

    "People say life is precious but there comes a point when life is not precious and it becomes torture for those that are living.

    "Carol had thought about going to Dignitas in Switzerland but it is very expensive and it puts other people in a difficult position.

    "It showed tremendous courage for her to do what she did all alone and I believe that she had planned it after having enough of being a prisoner in her own home.

    "She knew one more setback could leave her totally immobilised and she wouldn't be able to do anything for herself and she would just be washed, dressed and stuck in front of the television."

    Should euthanasia be an option for people with terminal debilitating illnesses? Seems cruel to force someone to live in such a state, life isn't precious all the time for everyone.

    Fair play to her for having the courage to keep her destiny in her own hands.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Poor woman. How much nicer would it have been for her to be able to end her life at home, with a loving family around her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 653 ✭✭✭girl in the striped socks


    She was obviously a very determined woman & quite serious about ending her misery. I hope she has found peace now.

    I'd do the same in her situation if euthanasia wasn't available. I wouldn't see the point in wasting away to nothing because of a terminal illness. I'd like to have the option of dying with some kind of dignity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    An awful existence to have, especially when you're in the mindset that you don't want to live the rest of your life like that.

    At least it's over for her, though I feel bad for her family too who I'm sure tried their best to help her.

    In cases like terminal illnesses it should be up to the person how they want end their life. See it through to the end in pain or go out with, in their mind, their dignity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,590 ✭✭✭theteal



    Should euthanasia be an option for people with terminal debilitating illnesses? Seems cruel to force someone to live in such a state, life isn't precious all the time for everyone.

    Fair play to her for having the courage to keep her destiny in her own hands.

    quite simply, yes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭spank_inferno


    theteal wrote: »
    quite simply, yes.

    Absolutely....

    </end thread>


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    Yes euthanasia should absolutely be an option.

    If I, or a loved one ever gets so ill that you become immobile then no filthy TD from Mayo is going to tell me I'm now allowedl to die in the comfort of my own home.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Andy!!


    kylith wrote: »
    Poor woman. How much nicer would it have been for her to be able to end her life at home, with a loving family around her.

    Fully agree. We are still stuck in the dark ages as a species regarding this issue. It's a difficult issue, but why should people be stuck in misery to satisfy our own conciences?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    That's one of the bravest and most aweful things I've read in a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,696 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    That's a brave woman and a sad story. Yes, a more dignified end should be possible for people in her condition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭rgmmg


    Visited my aunt last weekend who has MS and paralysed from the neck down. What a terrible illness. Had not seen her in 20 years or so but still put the proverbial boot into me for being a Liverpool fan :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭Precious flower


    God, poor woman that's so sad. :( Yes I think people who have terminal illnesses should be able to decide if they want to die. I think it's wrong for people who have no idea what this poor woman's life must have been like to live to dictate that she should not be able to end her life peacefully and without suffering.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭crazygeryy


    Its incredible that a person in that situation can't choose to end their own life in a controlled and peacefull way.what exactly is the law on it? is it simply a case that suicide is illegal?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭msg11


    It's like my old dog, we had great times. Sadly her time had come, she was still alive in body but the suffering from old ages, her time was now. We took the decision to end it for her and put her to sleep.

    Same should be available for humans.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Very sad story and not a nice way to die :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Sykk wrote: »
    Yes euthanasia should absolutely be an option.

    If I, or a loved one ever gets so ill that you become immobile then no filthy TD from Mayo is going to tell me I'm now allowedl to die in the comfort of my own home.
    Absolutely. My mum and I have a heroin overdose pact for if we ever find ourselves in that situation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,925 ✭✭✭Otis Driftwood


    My best mates Mum has MS and has done for 20 odd years and she is pretty much at the same stage mobility wise as the poor lady in the article.Its a horrible illness and to see someone effectively waste away must be heart breaking for the family.

    Euthanasia is a tricky subject but I think for people that have their full brain function but are effectively trapped in their body,and that want to end their life,then they should be allowed that option and I think its pretty selfish of family,friends or law to deny them it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    theteal wrote: »

    Should euthanasia be an option for people with terminal debilitating illnesses? Seems cruel to force someone to live in such a state, life isn't precious all the time for everyone.

    Fair play to her for having the courage to keep her destiny in her own hands.

    quite simply, yes.
    +1 it's easy to say no but any illness like that must be dehabilitating both physically and mentally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee


    What a brave woman! There was nothing tragic about her death, but an awful lot tragic about her life. She should have been able to end it in peace and dignity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭niamhx


    Absolutely, people should have the right to decide whether or not they want to live or die. Ms and many other long term illnesses cause more mental torture to the person than anything the disease does to the body.

    Imagine lying on a bed in you own faeces, the embarrassment of having someone come clean you, feed you ? Or hoping a wishing someone would come because you can't use your thumb to press a call bell. I've done all these things for people with many debilitating illnesses and watching them trying to avoid your eyes through their own embarrassment is the most awful feeling in the world.

    That's one very brave lady, I'm truely sorry she as a human being felt throwing herself into the canal was her only option. Ffs we bring our pets to a loving place, hold their paw and hug them while they pass away. We allow our own kind to be left with the canal as their only option ??? The mind boogles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    crazygeryy wrote: »
    Its incredible that a person in that situation can't choose to end their own life in a controlled and peacefull way.what exactly is the law on it? is it simply a case that suicide is illegal?

    They can't kill themselves, so it's assisted suicide (they need someone to voluntarily help them end it all)- which is treated as murder in a lot of countries. Mostly because they don't recognise the concept of assisted suicide (legally, that is - I'm sure they're well aware of the concept) for a variety of cultural and/or political reasons.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 emmosea


    The Criminal Law (Suicide) Act, 1993 provides that Suicide is no longer a crime. Prior to that, it was a criminal act, and, because nobody should gain financially from a criminal act, Insurance companies did not pay out on Suicide cases. Thankfully that is no longer the case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Ectoplasm


    Euthanasia is a tricky subject but I think for people that have their full brain function but are effectively trapped in their body,and that want to end their life,then they should be allowed that option and I think its pretty selfish of family,friends or law to deny them it.

    I bolded this part in particular because this is something I watched my father go through and it is horrendous. I am 100% in support of a persons right to choose to end their suffering. My Dad had motor neuron disease which effectively left him trapped in his own body. He required constant care and supervision, he could not feed himself, wash himself, move himself in any way other than turning his head and towards the end, even that was difficult.

    He raised the issue of self-termination about six months before he died. It was upsetting but actually entirely understandable. The only reason that he didn't go to Switzerland was that he feared that whoever went with him would be prosecuted on their return to Ireland and he refused to put anyone in that position. That kind of existence is not a life; it's a constant torture which is continually reinforcing as you have to ask for assistance with everything. I'd watch him try to scratch an itch by dragging his head back and forth over a pillow because it was something he could still do and it was heartbreaking.

    Death is painful for those left behind and I still miss him but I would never, never wish him back to face that kind of life. This is one case where the law is not only an ass, it is inflicting cruel and unusual punishment on those who are already suffering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭Evie90


    God what a heart-breaking story. When i hear of stories like this it always makes me think that it should be allowed although I've lost both my parents to cancer and I wanted them around for as long as possible so I suppose in a very selfish way I don't agree with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    kylith wrote: »
    Poor woman. How much nicer would it have been for her to be able to end her life at home, with a loving family around her.
    It's sort of evident from this story that even if they do allow terminally ill people to end their own life it's not going to be as simple as the family sitting around saying goodbye. While I'm all for euthanasia for people in this woman's position I think it's going to take another generation for the idea to be allowed, family just won't want to let go in many cases, regardless of the persons quality of life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,673 ✭✭✭Stavro Mueller


    Fair play to this woman. She did the right thing because she wasn't going to get any help from her family. Whether that was because they feared prosecution or just refused to help it's not clear.

    Life is precious but not are all costs. There comes a time when it's time to say enough is enough. It's a shame that we as a society brush this issue under the carpet. Living wills should have a legal standing in this country. As far as I know they don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Ectoplasm


    ScumLord wrote: »
    family just won't want to let go in many cases, regardless of the persons quality of life.

    While this may be the case some of the time, I know my family would have much rather have let my Dad go than watch him suffer.

    Ireland and England still prosecute 'assisted suicide' cases and there is a horrible Catch-22 situation when it comes to the likes of MS or Motor Neuron Disease in that they are progressive illnesses; when they are still capable of self-terminating they still have a degree of quality of life. It is when they become trapped in their own bodies that their life becomes about existence and not living but they are then no longer capable. My Dad chose to extend his own suffering rather than allow for the chance that someone he loved might be prosecuted for helping him and that is just wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Mr.Biscuits


    Yet another reason why the name 'Terry Wahls' should be known to all MS sufferrers and her book: the first prescription written by neurologists for newly diagnosed patients.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,450 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    Poor woman.
    She should definitely have been allowed to end her own life rather than go through what she did.
    I'd be all for euthanasia as long as the person is of sound mind and is able to think clearly and possibly have to go through some sort of counselling sessions beforehand just to make sure they're not just doing it without fully thinking it through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    I cant see how anyone can justify forcing someone to live a miserable existance and not have the option to end their own life, we'd put a dog or horse down for something that would limit their mobility or quality of life yet are content to let human beings suffer for decades and live with the indignity of not being able to do anything for themselves.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Fenian Army


    Brave of her? Selfish and dangerous more like, what if someone saw her floating and jumped in to save her but drowned?

    Thats what happened my friend a few years ago, saw someone face down in a canal, jumped in to try and rescue him and drowned himself.


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