How to go primal (without really trying) - join me?

woggie · 20-02-2012 01:01PM

Anyone gonna try paleo pancakes for the day that's in it tomorrow? I see Mark Sisson has a recipe for it using coconut flour and there's a fabulous dip on everyday paleo to pair up with it ...I reckon my hubbie and kids won't know the difference!

Transform · 20-02-2012 01:33PM

woggie wrote: »

Anyone gonna try paleo pancakes for the day that's in it tomorrow? I see Mark Sisson has a recipe for it using coconut flour and there's a fabulous dip on everyday paleo to pair up with it ...I reckon my hubbie and kids won't know the difference!

The wife made these the week before last. A-mazing

http://oliveoilandlemon.ie/2012/02/19/mardi-gras-pancakes-with-blueberries-ricotta-and-honey/

Yes they are not Sugar or honey free but the eggs and ricotta make up for that and they taste really light

Dotcomdolly · 20-02-2012 01:34PM

woggie wrote: »

Anyone gonna try paleo pancakes for the day that's in it tomorrow? I see Mark Sisson has a recipe for it using coconut flour and there's a fabulous dip on everyday paleo to pair up with it ...I reckon my hubbie and kids won't know the difference!

Nah I'm not goingt o bother. Kids will get them at school - pancake party fundrasier, and dh can get them in a cafe for his lunch if he wants them.
Coconut flour is about €8 a bag so I hope your kids appreciate their paleo pancakes!

SteelyDanJalapeno · 20-02-2012 02:05PM

Ommelettes kinda look like pancakes!

Gummy Panda · 20-02-2012 02:24PM

Could always do the protein pancakes.

2 eggs, some almond flour and a scoop of whey (not really paleo). Mix into batter and cook. Nothing amazing but almond/cashew butter on top makes them nice

LoTwan · 20-02-2012 02:39PM

Soy sauce is out because soya is a legume.

I'm going to make pancake batter this afternoon so it's ready when the kids get home tomorrow evening.

I made paleo chocolate chip cookies. They were nice but I wouldn't bother again. The recipe called for agave or raw honey. What is non raw honey? The only honey I have came from the hive in the garden so it's about as raw as it comes LOL

I survived my trip into the West on Saturday. I fed the kids in KFC & just ate the chicken. It meant I wasn't hungry on arrival & was able to enjoy the dinner that was served & skipped dessert. All in all it was very smooth.

My task now it to get the sandwich out of the tall boys lunchbox. It is tahini & jam on best of both bread & I don't want that much bread in there. He also has coconut chips, fruit leather & an apple. Ideally I will find a recipe for a power bar that he will eat & I will get protein & fat into him in a physically small amount of food.

Doolee · 20-02-2012 04:59PM

Transform wrote: »

http://oliveoilandlemon.ie/2012/02/19/mardi-gras-pancakes-with-blueberries-ricotta-and-honey/

Yes they are not Sugar or honey free but the eggs and ricotta make up for that and they taste really light

They look fab! Nice website too:)

I might do the usual banana, spoon on almond butter, blob of coconut water, an egg, bit of coconut flour, drop of stevia and bobs your uncle.
Or...there's always egg whites and protein powder....but they're not worth it IMO.

Transform · 20-02-2012 09:59PM

Cheers and it's really just the food we cook all the time (we meaning she cooks and I eat it!) which leans towards Paleo/primal without getting too anal about it.

These were stunning and brought them in for clients one day and were snapped up
http://oliveoilandlemon.ie/2012/02/17/financier-cakes-with-bluberries-and-coconut/

Yes they have sugar in them but at the very least they avoid wheat. Not an everyday treat but fantastic for friends when they come over.

LoTwan · 20-02-2012 10:24PM

DCD... sorry you had a bad reaction to the spelt. How is the weight downward spiral going?

I have spent the last few weeks eating from the freezer so this week is the restock week. I have 1/4 of a pig in the freezer.

I'm coming to the end of week 7 of paleo living and I continue to love it

I am listening to the Everyday Paleo podcasts at the moment.

Dotcomdolly · 20-02-2012 10:34PM

LoTwan wrote: »

DCD... sorry you had a bad reaction to the spelt. How is the weight downward spiral going?

I have spent the last few weeks eating from the freezer so this week is the restock week. I have 1/4 of a pig in the freezer.

I'm coming to the end of week 7 of paleo living and I continue to love it I am listening to the Everyday Paleo podcasts at the moment.

Down to 126.8 Lotwan

Just finished up a 6 week weights programme and combined with the paleo lost 4 inches off my belly

Feeling great !

I was hooked on the Everyday Paleo podcasts, sadly they seemed to have died a death

what number are you on?

Doolee · 21-02-2012 07:45AM

Transform wrote: »

Cheers and it's really just the food we cook all the time (we meaning she cooks and I eat it!) which leans towards Paleo/primal without getting too anal about it.

These were stunning and brought them in for clients one day and were snapped up
http://oliveoilandlemon.ie/2012/02/17/financier-cakes-with-bluberries-and-coconut/

Yes they have sugar in them but at the very least they avoid wheat. Not an everyday treat but fantastic for friends when they come over.

Jeeze, I wish my p.t. would load me up with the likes sometimes! Seems to be me who gives him the healthy alternative type goodies:) might be changing trainers if this carries on:)

Transform · 21-02-2012 09:18AM

Doolee wrote: »

Jeeze, I wish my p.t. would load me up with the likes sometimes! Seems to be me who gives him the healthy alternative type goodies:) might be changing trainers if this carries on:)

If your trainers is not 100% fascinated With ideal training programs, nutrition and keeping you motivated then he/she is not doing their job right.

As regards podcasts just jump in on chris kresser or robb wolf instead.

Doolee · 21-02-2012 02:23PM

Transform wrote: »

Doolee wrote: »

Jeeze, I wish my p.t. would load me up with the likes sometimes! Seems to be me who gives him the healthy alternative type goodies:) might be changing trainers if this carries on:)

If your trainers is not 100% fascinated With ideal training programs, nutrition and keeping you motivated then he/she is not doing their job right.

As regards podcasts just jump in on chris kresser or robb wolf instead.

Actually my trainer is amazing. Every session i have with him verifies that. My life has totally changed from training with him for the last 2+ years. Hes a keeper despite his lack of baking skills:)

As for the podcasts, I'm nearly done with all robb wolfs, am onto Chris -heisaGod-Kresser and jump into Sean croxton every now and then too...also Gary Taubes you tube lectures are great.

Dotcomdolly · 21-02-2012 04:38PM

Dinner tonight is MEATZA!

A hit! The kids ate it!

ETA - had frozen blueberries & coconut milk for desert - delicous.

Dotcomdolly · 22-02-2012 06:17PM

Wowsee, hit my ultimate goal weight of 8stone something (125.8lbs) this morning - can't believe it! I haven't been this weight since the mid 90's and it wasn't from clean living back then I tell ya! Losing weight eating 50% fat - who would have thunk!

So I have discovered the joys of coconut milk on fruit

I got the small tin of Thai Gold organic coconut milk in Dunnes - this seemed to have the highest % coconut of all the ones available. Today I had it on chopped banana & some coconut flakes on top - felt like a real tropical treat.

Dinner tonight (for me) is
http://www.theclothesmakethegirl.com/2010/08/08/paleo-egg-foo-yung/
with whatver veg I can rustle up....cauli, courgette & spinach I think.

nutri · 22-02-2012 08:27PM

Hi DCD, fair play, you're doing great! Hoping to get started on this kind of a plan from tomorrow. I've read through the thread from when you started but just wondering if you could please post a typical days food for all your meals? many thanks and well done

woggie · 22-02-2012 08:56PM

YAY well done DCD...that's my goal also LOL - although i wouldn't mind being heavier if it was all muscle and i fit neatly into a size 10 .

I'm on week 2 now, have only lost 4lbs but can definitely feel the difference in both energy and also feel a lot less bloated.

Thanks for starting the thread, i've picked up lots of tips and am really enjoying all the podcasts...shame they dont seem to have done any for this year.

by the way ...just looking at that recipe...are you using coconut aminos? if so where did you buy them? i haven't seen them in any of the supermarkets i shop in , i will try the local health stores at the w/e but just wondering if you or anyone else has any advice on this product, i'd never even heard about it until this week.

LoTwan · 22-02-2012 10:20PM

nutri wrote: »

Hi DCD, fair play, you're doing great! Hoping to get started on this kind of a plan from tomorrow. I've read through the thread from when you started but just wondering if you could please post a typical days food for all your meals? many thanks and well done

I'll chime in on this one. I have been paleo for 7 weeks now (today is 7w1d) and the last time I observed a way of eating so entirely was when I gave up dairy 4 years ago because I was pregnant with my younger boy (older boy is allergic to dairy). The last few days have been fairly typical for me. I work Monday & Tuesday so lunch is boxed up the night before and heated on site. I eat a morning snack on those days because it is part of the work day but not on other days.

Monday:
breakfast - 2 eggs, 2 rashers & a large tomato cooked in coconut oil
Snack - paleo chocolate chip cookies (leaving do for one of my staff) & an apple
Lunch - beef chilli
Dinner - baked salmon & roasted peppers & onions (cooked in the Actifry with olive oil)

Tuesday (this is the longest day of my week, I have awkward appointment times and I have to have an afternoon snack because lunch is at 12.30 & dinner is at 7)
Breakfast - 3 egg omelette with peppers, tomato & onion cooked in coconut oil
Snack - apple
Lunch - baked salmon & roasted peppers & onions (cooked in the Actifry with olive oil)
Snack - caramelised coconut chips
Dinner - sweet potato, apple & chorizo hash

Wednesday
Breakfast - 3 egg omelette with peppers & onion cooked in coconut oil
Lunch - sweet potato, apple & chorizo hash
Dinner - baked salmon, carrots & pan fried kale with garlic

Can you see the pattern emerging? I eat yesterday's dinner for lunch today. It works well & I eat a variety of food throughout the week. I am at between 50% & 60% fat with carbs sub 100g (except Tuesday which is my PITA day). I would ordnarily add avocado to most of those meals too but man alive there isn't a ripe avocado to be found in Mullingar this week!!

DCD!!! That's fantastic. I'm so happy for you. It goes so completely against the cultural & social norms that we have had drilled into us about healthy diet. And of course there is the "fat will make you fat or give you a heart attack or both" idea too. Now off to the GP with you and have your cholesterol checked. I can't wait to have mine done :-) My friend expressed an interest in paleo having watched me go through my Whole30. Yesterday she told me she is giving up meat for Lent. I wanted to say WHY??? When it doesn't take away the fatigue and blah that she is feeling right now I will be sitting there clear skinned & feeling great in the front row ready to help her transition :-)

nutri · 22-02-2012 11:01PM

Lotwan, thank you so much for that, it's a big help!

LoTwan · 23-02-2012 12:20AM

I just looked back over todays food and realised that I had 3 meals, no snacks and wasn't actually hungry all day. At meal times I knew it was time to eat but there was no "OMG I have to eat now".

I recently wrote about living paleo and what I had gained from my Whole30. This is the bit that I remember every single day...

In my professional capacity I have for 15 years trusted my eyes to tell me the truth about what I see before me but I have never trusted them to tell me that the amount of food on my plate was sufficient to meet the sensation of hunger I was experiencing. Until now. Now I can look at my plate as I am creating my dinner and know when enough is enough and so 20 minutes after my meal I am neither hungry nor uncomfortably full. But it doesn’t involve putting my cutlery down between bites or lingering and taking 20 minutes to eat my meal (which, with 2 small children, I simply don’t have) just so that my body would get the signal that it was full and tell me to stop eating. Rather than waiting until the end of the meal I have, for the first time in my life, learned how to listen to my body and also to trust that my eyes are a valuable tool in the eating process, not just that they can appreciate the appearance of a nice meal.

It is such an important component of my approach to food these days.

I forgot to say earlier... the boys and I are going to visit the family that have a loan of our ice cream maker on Friday. I am going to bring the makings of paleo ice cream (coconut milk, banana, vanilla & honey... I might skip on the honey but as I am using raw from the garden I'm not overly bothered by it)

Dotcomdolly · 23-02-2012 08:50AM

nutri wrote: »

Hi DCD, fair play, you're doing great! Hoping to get started on this kind of a plan from tomorrow. I've read through the thread from when you started but just wondering if you could please post a typical days food for all your meals? many thanks and well done

Thanks nutri,
here's this week so far

MONDAY
B - stir fry veg (to save it being thrown out), avocado & 2 rashers
S - apple
L - sauteed mushrooms, spinach, 1 rasher, fried egg
S - usual protein shake
D - a mix of fried courgette, lardons, cherry toms with pesto (everyone else had this stirred in to pasta) mixed througha pile of rocket & some feta. - yum
S - glass of wine and some fruit/nut mix.

TUESDAY
B - boiled egg and an apple
S- prunes and pecans
L - same veg & egg combo as usual
S - usual protein shake (kintika vanilla whey, 200ml coconut milk, 50g frozen banana) added cacao nibs but you couldn't taste them so won't bother again.
D - MEATZA!and salad
S - a "paleo treat" . frozen blueberries and coconut milk

WEDNESDAY
B - boiled egg & large apple
S - prunes, macadamia nuts, coconut flakes
L - scrambled up leftover veg (carrots & broccoli) with garlic & a beaten egg with some grated cheese on top
S -chopped banana with coconut milk & flakes
D - THISish different veg, using up what's in the fridge - cauliflower, courgette, carrot, used prawns & it was great
S - small glass of red wine

@woggie Well done on your success to date, good to hear you're feeling better on it. Are you talking about Everyday Paleo - did you get episode 19.5?
Re the aminos I thought I'd found them yesterday but it was soy aminos! It was in Down to Earth & she hadn't heard of them so I'm thinking they are not available here, she said lots of thing from states just don't have distributors to here. So I used soy (mea culpa). When the bottle is finished I will replace it with tamari.

@Lotwan Thanks for congrats, won't be getting my cholesterol checked as I presume I'd have to pay for it ...can you get a cheap home kit? I've never had it done so I'd have nothing to compare it to, actually I got blood tests 2 years ago (?) cos I was losing hair badly I wonder if it was included in that....Enjoy your paleo ice-cream! I know you can make ice-cream in the food processor by blitzing frozen berries, natural yogurt, honey & mint (jamie Oliver recipe), I wonder would it work with coconut milk?

Gummy Panda · 23-02-2012 10:04AM

nutri wrote: »

Hi DCD, fair play, you're doing great! Hoping to get started on this kind of a plan from tomorrow. I've read through the thread from when you started but just wondering if you could please post a typical days food for all your meals? many thanks and well done

There is a nice food matrix on Robb Wolf's site - Link here

nutri · 23-02-2012 11:27AM

That's a brilliant link, thanks so much!

LoTwan · 23-02-2012 11:28AM

Dotcomdolly wrote: »

@Lotwan Thanks for congrats, won't be getting my cholesterol checked as I presume I'd have to pay for it

I was just joking. I was referring to the fact that that much fat is clearly going to kill you!

Dotcomdolly · 23-02-2012 11:41AM

LoTwan wrote: »

I was just joking. I was referring to the fact that that much fat is clearly going to kill you!

OHHHHH, I thought you meant it might be down, I know one the podcasts I listen too "healthy mind, fit body" his ldl/hdl improved significantly when he went paleo.

Gummy Panda · 23-02-2012 12:26PM

Starting to like Robb Wolf more and more after reading his site and listening to his podcasts.

Not a fan of paleo hacks website though. Some paleo zealots on it.

nutri · 23-02-2012 05:43PM

hi again! I was just wondering if you could look at my day's food for today just to see if I'm in the right direction? I know cheese should be out, but then it's the first day, so I'm not sure.. I have to read over the steps again, not retaining any info today! Anyway, yeah any help would be great, and I know it says my cals are a bit low but the chicken fillets were 180 cals each instead of the 120 I think it took them as and there's still time left in the day

thanks!

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/reports/printable_diary/Evi93?from=2012-02-23&to=2012-02-23

Stench Blossoms · 23-02-2012 05:55PM

Your diary isn't public

nutri · 23-02-2012 05:58PM

good call, sorry! just changed it now

keane2097 · 23-02-2012 06:01PM

nutri wrote: »

hi again! I was just wondering if you could look at my day's food for today just to see if I'm in the right direction? I know cheese should be out, but then it's the first day, so I'm not sure.. I have to read over the steps again, not retaining any info today! Anyway, yeah any help would be great, and I know it says my cals are a bit low but the chicken fillets were 180 cals each instead of the 120 I think it took them as and there's still time left in the day thanks!

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/reports/printable_diary/Evi93?from=2012-02-23&to=2012-02-23

Looks good to me. You might have missed this flow chart but it should let you know what's what in 99% of cases:

http://crossfitfw.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/paleo.jpg

How to go primal (without really trying) - join me?

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