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The State of O'Connell St

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    #32
    Wishbone Ash
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    #33
    2cool4school
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    the big problem with oconnel street is the number of scummers that are always there

    clear those scumbaggs away and it will improve

    also close that massive pennys that place is a scum magnet they all pile in there for the cheap clothes

    dr quirkys is a kip too and should be knocked

    theres a mad religon shop near kylemore too whats the story with that place

    they should do what they did with ballymun again but for the metodone clinics (have one massive high rise clinic on the outskirts of town and all the scumsacks will flock there)


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    2cool4school
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    oh yeah they should also add more attractions to the street

    why not move the big wheel that was down the docks up to o connels street

    it was a good idea for an attraction it just failed cos nobody was ever down that end of the docks

    or open an ice skating rink in that old cinema


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    #35
    Fluorescence
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    2cool4school wrote: »
    theres a mad religon shop near kylemore too whats the story with that place

    It provides some crackin' tunes when you're stuck waiting 40 minutes for a bus that never arrives when it's supposed to. Couldn't be without it :pac:


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    #36
    admiralofthefleet
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    the council should be ashamed of the way they have let the street go. i have no doubt that if o connell street was located south of the liffey it would be a lot more pleasant
    its just another example of an anti north Dublin bias in DCC.

    i would like to see the entire street closed to all traffic and developed into an open civic space


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    #37
    Lawrence1895
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    2cool4school wrote: »
    the big problem with oconnel street is the number of scummers that are always there

    clear those scumbaggs away and it will improve

    also close that massive pennys that place is a scum magnet they all pile in there for the cheap clothes

    dr quirkys is a kip too and should be knocked

    theres a mad religon shop near kylemore too whats the story with that place

    they should do what they did with ballymun again but for the metodone clinics (have one massive high rise clinic on the outskirts of town and all the scumsacks will flock there)

    But they will soon turn up somewhere else, and we'll have a thread called 'The state of XYZ Street :rolleyes:


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    #38
    TheTwiz
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    The main problem with O'Connell St is that there are no high end shops. We have Penneys, countless fast food outlets, a Penneys, and a few arcades. Realistically it should be full of the the likes of Clearys, Tommy Hilfigher etc. The street is also in the vicinity of methadone clinics so people from all over Dublin - north, south and west wander around the street & surrounding street intimidating tourists and generally being an eyesore.


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    bb1234567
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    2cool4school wrote: »
    oh yeah they should also add more attractions to the street

    why not move the big wheel that was down the docks up to o connels street

    it was a good idea for an attraction it just failed cos nobody was ever down that end of the docks

    or open an ice skating rink in that old cinema

    good idea!Ye it could be a nice street if they made the effort, like maybe replace the arcade with a theatre and replace the fast food places with highclass restaurants and outdoor seating and maybe some artisan shops along the street and some art galleries. Then wed have a classy street we could be proud of:)


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    bb1234567
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    Lars1916 wrote: »
    But they will soon turn up somewhere else, and we'll have a thread called 'The state of XYZ Street :rolleyes:

    Yes and that would be a good thing, no matter where the scumbags move to its still better than them being on our MAIN thoroughfare!


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    bb1234567
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    TheTwiz wrote: »
    The main problem with O'Connell St is that there are no high end shops. We have Penneys, countless fast food outlets, a Penneys, and a few arcades. Realistically it
    should be full of the the likes of Clearys, Tommy Hilfigher etc
    . The street is also in the vicinity of methadone clinics so people from all over Dublin - north, south and west wander around the street & surrounding street intimidating tourists and generally being an eyesore.

    Do we really want that? Another characterless street filled with clone stores found all over the world. No chain clothes stores! It should be a street we could be proud of, instead fill it not with chain stores but nice irish craft and artisan stores and art galleries, nice cafes and restaurants and specialty food stores. We already have grafton and henry street for the international chain stores, so oconell street should be different and more charming.


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    #42
    Guy:Incognito
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    PseudoFamous wrote: »
    Well, they should move all the methadone clinics, and low quality high density housing out of the city centre then, shouldn't they?

    God no, I'd rather leave them in town and have the choice to just shop elswhere rather than have them any closer to where I live.


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    #43
    Lawrence1895
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    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Yes and that would be a good thing, no matter where the scumbags move to its still better than them being on our MAIN thoroughfare!

    Or if they would just stop behaving like scumbags...well...I won't hold my breath on that :rolleyes:


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    #44
    wyndham
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    Those donuts aren't worth €3 for 6. I remember when they were 5 for £1, not 100yrs ago. They may be fresh but they are tiny and not very tasty. Would much rather a filled behemoth Tim Hortons coated in chocolate for €1ish from Dunnes or Tesco.


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    #45
    Paparazzo
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    Someone mentioned it would be improved if pedestrianized. If we ignore the traffic problems, this would be great. Dublin lacks an open square type area. Imagine the whole area had no kerbs, and just seats around the place with restaurant and cafes that can have proper outdoor seating outside.
    wyndham wrote: »
    Those donuts aren't worth €3 for 6. I remember when they were 5 for £1, not 100yrs ago. They may be fresh but they are tiny and not very tasty. Would much rather a filled behemoth Tim Hortons coated in chocolate for €1ish from Dunnes or Tesco.

    Each to their own, but everything you said is wrong. :D


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    #46
    mikemac1
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    breadmonster wrote: »
    Its not actually that bad if theyd just get all the junkies off it. Need some sort of bylaw enforced to ban junkies from the city center.

    Why are the clinics in the city centre anyway?

    Shut them down and build a super clinic down by the docks

    The Luas can take them down there and they won't be hanging around shops and places of business all day and angering the owners.

    It's industrial down there

    Not saying out of sight, out of mind but business owners are paying big money in rates and they are suffering if there is a clinic nearby

    And one top clinic may provide better service then many small ones. The Luas slices through these areas so it's not a problem to get down there


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    #47
    Rangi
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    The main reason seats were not included in the upgrade of the area,was that they would encourage the scumbags to actually sit down and drink their drink,take their drugs,and make the place look worse,rather than just hang around!


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    #48
    mikemac1
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    Yeah, they went to the boardwalk instead

    Lots of seating to hang around, relax and hassle tourists and locals


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    #49
    Dyr
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    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Why are the clinics in the city centre anyway?

    Shut them down and build a super clinic down by the docks

    The Luas can take them down there and they won't be hanging around shops and places of business all day and angering the owners.

    It's industrial down there

    Not saying out of sight, out of mind but business owners are paying big money in rates and they are suffering if there is a clinic nearby

    And one top clinic may provide better service then many small ones. The Luas slices through these areas so it's not a problem to get down there

    You're gas


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    #50
    mikemac1
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    Tell me something better so


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    #51
    gigino
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    cson wrote: »
    Typing this out on my phone so it'll be brief, but its just struck me there how much of a hole the main thoroughfare in our capital city is. Wall to wall fast food places and tatty neon signs. And despite all of this it still has so much potential - some fantastic georgian architecture if only it was cared for :(

    It has the potential to be a lovely street again. I often there quite often and it never ceases to amaze me how tacky and grubby it is. Its one of the widest main streets in Europe, if not the widest, it could be beautiful again.


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    #52
    D-Generate
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    I have been in Dublin 8 months now and due to the awful nature of O'Connell St and its environs I have only crossed O'Connell St Bridge 4 or 5 times in that time (not including trips to the airport and the likes).
    It truly is an awful kip on O'Connell St with a very threatening atmosphere. There are very few places in the world where you are walking down one of the main thoroughfares of a city in broad daylight and have to be wary about someone coming up hassling you for money. No other major cities* seem to allow their main streets descend into a haven for junkies and knackers quite like Dublin has allowed O'Connell St to become one.

    Has there ever been a response by the DCC or the Gardai actually acknowledging the shady aspect to the street?

    *The Tenderloin district in San Francisco is hella dodge but at least it is 1 block away from the main area. Also, they tend to hassle their own and not tourists so it is relatively safe despite appearances.


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    #53
    2cool4school
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    yeah to be honest the difference in scummyness is evident the minute you cross the river

    westmorland street kind of eases you into it as its pretty kippy but once you cross o connell bridge its instantly rougher and scummyer

    im not surprised youve been swerving the area d generate

    its disgracful how the guards just ignore the problem as if its not there and theres no problem

    im embarased being from dublin when this is what visitors see when they come to ireland

    its a long term problem that needs to be solved long term

    a. the scaldy shops and fast food places need to go

    b. the scum have to be tackled and kept away

    3. the street has to be revamped and cleaned

    4. high end shops have to be attracted

    5. ordinary people not scum bags need to be attracted


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    #54
    opinion guy
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    Are you kidding OP ?

    O'Connell street is ten times better than it was ten years ago


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    #55
    Cool Mo D
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    Being asked for money isn't dangerous. If you just say no, they will leave you alone. Honestly, O'Connell street isn't dangerous in the slightest. It's certainly run down and tatty in parts, and has its share of drunks and addicts, but ignore them and they'll ignore you.


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    #56
    Fluorescence
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    Cool Mo D wrote: »
    Being asked for money isn't dangerous. If you just say no, they will leave you alone. Honestly, O'Connell street isn't dangerous in the slightest. It's certainly run down and tatty in parts, and has its share of drunks and addicts, but ignore them and they'll ignore you.

    I agree, but the romas can be extremely annoying during the day. They will happily mumble, "plzbittamoniescanyougivemepleaseIsopoor" at you for 20 minutes while you just keep saying "NO." They're relentless!


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    #57
    John_Rambo
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    D-Generate wrote: »
    very threatening atmosphere. There are very few places in the world where you are walking down one of the main thoroughfares of a city in broad daylight and have to be wary about someone coming up hassling you for money


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    #58
    shangri la
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    It looks grand but its full of chippers and pubs which sums up Ireland but what else can afford the rent but booze related activities?


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    Dodge
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    D-Generate wrote: »
    There are very few places in the world where you are walking down one of the main thoroughfares of a city in broad daylight and have to be wary about someone coming up hassling you for money..

    I've never been to a city and NOT seen beggers of some sort or another. Presume some feel extra embaressment because its in their city. It might even be the case were people don't really notice stuff like this while on holiday (too busy enjoying themselves) but get sick of being confronted by it every day/week

    I know I've never felt threatened (or close to being threatened) by them, but they're an eyesore. No question


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    #60
    D-Generate
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    You don't get asked for "some change bud" every 15 feet when walking along Oxford Street, Champs-Elysees, Unter den Linden, Times Square, Dam Square (you have to go to the designated dodgy area to be pestered).
    Heck, even closer to home you don't get hassled when walking down Patrick St. in Cork.

    Saying that it exists in other cities (which it doesn't to the same extent) is to choose to ignore that it is a problem and that it does reflect poorly on the city. I love Dublin, but I certainly hate this aspect of it.


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    #61
    Dodge
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    D-Generate wrote: »
    You don't get asked for "some change bud" every 15 feet when walking along Oxford Street, Champs-Elysees, Unter den Linden, Times Square, Dam Square (you have to go to the designated dodgy area to be pestered).

    Thats the point I'm making. You get whatever the local phrase is. You've seriously never been approached by a begger in Times Square or Oxford Street?


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