Nightclub marketing gone too far?

Eric Cartman wrote: »

How does an image of a girl pulling up her underwear beside a beer can autOmatically mean she was raped ?

Do you honestly think anyone is stupid enough to honestly think that this poster means the club condones rape.

At the end of the day , if you dont like the advertising dont go to the club , dublin has an abundance of nightclubs and you can vote with your wallet about their advertising.

There's nothing wrong with the image itself, it's the line above it, 'if you're not up for it, don't cum'. Are you honestly telling me that with the image and caption combined it's not even hinting at it? Not up for what exactly? And why did the promoter use cum instead of come?

And I'm not saying that the club condones rape either or that encourages people to become rapists, I'm saying that it's not okay to make light of rape or sexual abuse in advertising.

I'm not some prude like.

I've read two great articles this past week alone which shows up the general public's lax attitudes towards sexism (one came from the USA, the other from Britain, so neither particularly attacking the Irish...though many themes involved still on display in this topic alone).

Putting both together tells a tale of how men feel entitled to seeing women sexualised and how anyone who questions this will be mocked and ridiculed for their views. It also tells of how serious it is when you look at it from a woman's perspective and how this lazy public attitude follows into the legal profession in handling cases of genuine rape.

Here they are:

The 8 Stupidest Defences Against Accusations of Sexism
http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-8-stupidest-defenses-against-accusations-sexism/

Time For a Revolution In The Way We Deal With Rape
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/17/revolution-deal-with-rape

Is it sexist- i don't think so!

Does it push things- maybe.

Is it horribly lazy marketing- yep, definetly is.

leggo wrote: »

I've read two great articles this past week alone which shows up the general public's lax attitudes towards sexism (one came from the USA, the other from Britain, so neither particularly attacking the Irish...though many themes involved still on display in this topic alone).

Putting both together tells a tale of how men feel entitled to seeing women sexualised and how anyone who questions this will be mocked and ridiculed for their views. It also tells of how serious it is when you look at it from a woman's perspective and how this lazy public attitude follows into the legal profession in handling cases of genuine rape.

Here they are:

The 8 Stupidest Defences Against Accusations of Sexism
http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-8-stupidest-defenses-against-accusations-sexism/

Time For a Revolution In The Way We Deal With Rape
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/17/revolution-deal-with-rape

People use stupid defences for everything. That would be an issue with the legal system.

Men are actually legally discriminated against (in family cases). This is not anecdotal evidence its in the legal system.
The media portrays men and women negatively and its just as sexist to complain about one side and not another.
The media report lots of negative stories that pretty much what they have always done.
People will always tell bad taste jokes that does not mean people take rape less seriously. There's no harm educating people but the last thing we need is more PC.

keepkeyyellow wrote: »

Eric Cartman wrote: »

How does an image of a girl pulling up her underwear beside a beer can autOmatically mean she was raped ?

Do you honestly think anyone is stupid enough to honestly think that this poster means the club condones rape.

At the end of the day , if you dont like the advertising dont go to the club , dublin has an abundance of nightclubs and you can vote with your wallet about their advertising.

There's nothing wrong with the image itself, it's the line above it, 'if you're not up for it, don't cum'. Are you honestly telling me that with the image and caption combined it's not even hinting at it? Not up for what exactly? And why did the promoter use cum instead of come?

And I'm not saying that the club condones rape either or that encourages people to become rapists, I'm saying that it's not okay to make light of rape or sexual abuse in advertising.

I'm not some prude like.

I'm a photographer, if I take a photo insinuating rape and titled it as such would you be in a big huff if I Hung it on a wall in a gallery? Or what if I took a photo of nothing got to do with rape, titled it in a way that was a pun for a Target group and Hung it up, would you also het so high and mighty.

You are looking too far into it, as it says - if you don't like it don't come. Ie. Don't go there, don't like their Facebook page, and don't pay notice to them.. and that's from someone who's never went out in dublin.


Everything nowadays is too politically correct - everything you say offends someone, if you don't like it, don't pay attention and move on!

leggo wrote: »

Huh?

I mean, I don't dispute your points, just don't see how they're in any way relevant?

Essentially, what you seem to be doing is responding to two well-thought out articles that are very relevant to the discussion at hand, and said "Yeah well a lot of things happen to a lot of people." Then attempting to tie it into a conclusion that "that doesn't mean people take rape less seriously".

...how? How does men being discriminated against in cases of child custody have anything to do with whether or not people take rape seriously?

I'm refering to points raised by you and in the article. Your point on sexism: "shows up the general public's lax attitudes towards sexism" ie you ignore the fact that men are legally discriminated against.
The second point is regarding the article that states it's a problem that the media report false rape cases in the news and that rape jokes are told on the internet.

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

Relevant quote

Nightclubs are shit, no matter how you dress it up with sexualised advertising.

Pint, good company and good music ftw