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Cyclelogical Closes its doors

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    The chap with the Louth/Meath accent and Cliff were always nice to deal with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭Pigeon Reaper


    The shop front and layout was never welcoming in appearance with broken window panes left in place for years. It's sad that individuals have lost jobs but then many other bike shops have opened up in the area recently which appear more accessible and welcoming to passer bys.

    Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,487 ✭✭✭TheBlaaMan



    Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin


    I had to look up that one ...:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭Slideshowbob


    <snip>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭Slideshowbob


    JHI aka jimmy humphries in finglas was never the most kempt of shops yet afaik continues to thrive. Perhaps morana could confirm?!?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 948 ✭✭✭monkeyslayer


    Sorry to hear this, I quite liked the shop, always found them quite helpful and used to enjoy browsing around and chatting about gear with em the odd time on my lunch break. Never spent any decent amount of money there tho! Think I once bought a chain wear tool and a 9 speed cassette


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭triggermortis


    Is this the shop near ha'penny bridge? Only bought stuff in there once ages ago in my pre-roadie days and had no problems.
    Sorry to see any business go under..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,830 ✭✭✭doozerie


    I shopped with them when they were based in Malahide, and continued to shop there when they moved to the city centre. In general I found them very good to deal with. I could certainly recount some minor issues that I had in there but I could do likewise for every bike shop I've used - the service industry is a tough one to be in, I imagine it's impossible not to annoy some customers at some time or other. Unhappy customers will leave and shop elsewhere, which is only to be expected, but the animosity shown by some people towards this particular shop continues to surprise me. Good luck to everyone involved in the shop, I hope they all land on their feet.

    As to the broken windows, I was told by someone in the shop that if they replaced them they'd simply be smashed again. Being on a busy thoroughfare in a city centre can't help, especially after hours when people with drink seem to take personal exception to things made of glass. Broken windows certainly wouldn't have encouraged potential customers into the shop but in their shoes I'm not sure what I'd have done to deal with the issue either.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,670 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    JHI aka jimmy humphries in finglas was never the most kempt of shops yet afaik continues to thrive. Perhaps morana could confirm?!?

    Still the best wheelbuilders about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 985 ✭✭✭Miklos


    Always sad to see a business close, I'm sure high rent probably did for them. It's ludicrously high round there.

    It's worth noting that Cliff works in Eurocycles in Sth. William St now and is still a legend.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭Indricotherium


    I'll be sure to remember them fondly for their "we do not loan pumps" sign

    Crap prices even for a bike shop in Ireland and dreadful customer service probably done more for them than high rent.

    Not being open for the 8:30 I need a tube now crowd didn't help either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 175 ✭✭Spokes of Glory


    Regrettably I have to confirm the poor customer service. I was looking at shoes in there recently and was thrown the box and pretty much left to my own devices. Contrast that with Richies in Swords, where I showed up at a quarter to closing time, and the guys still dug out several different styles for me. It had the atmosphere of a place which the owners knew was heading south, and just didn't care any more.

    (And if Richie is reading, extra discount for the shameless plug please).

    Spokes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭manafana


    i wouldnt worry about those that lost jobs, if their really that good other shops will take them on, plenty work still going in all the bike shops anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,397 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    NickWray wrote: »
    Always sad to see a business close, I'm sure high rent probably did for them.
    I'd say the rates for the corpo were pretty extortionate too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,292 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    went in there a few times when i was looking to buy my bike and bits and pieces.

    never once felt welcome, they always seemed to be to interested in having the craic themselves, and with any regular customers that came in.

    nobody ever once even said a single word to me, all someone has to say is "can i help you" 4 words which go a long way in customer service.

    obviously say to see businesses go to the wall, but with the service i received here, i can't say im surprised.

    Another shop where i got similar very poor service was the one in Blanch village where if i havn'e been totally ignored the shop assistant had a good aul chin wag with his mate for over 10 minutes, including at one stage where the mate was nearly gone, turned back and they talked right accross my face.

    I was in limbo that day with a puncture, but i'll never go near him ever again.

    Customer service is important guys, or your business has no chance what so ever


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 garstmax


    I went in there once and after pottering around for a while one of the guys finally came over to me, I was buying a new road bike so he suggested I look at the Stevens which he didn't have, took all my details Ph and email said he call me in a week, bought a Giant 2 weeks later from some where else, he never got in touch.

    Wonder how many people did this happen to? In business you can't afford to do this, I certainly wouldn't be in able to do it in mine.

    Im sure there are loads of people on boards who have either lost their business or have been made unemployed so hopefully things will work out for all that worked there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    stevieob wrote: »

    Another shop where i got similar very poor service was the one in Blanch village where if i havn'e been totally ignored the shop assistant had a good aul chin wag with his mate for over 10 minutes, including at one stage where the mate was nearly gone, turned back and they talked right accross my face.

    I was in limbo that day with a puncture, but i'll never go near him ever again.

    Customer service is important guys, or your business has no chance what so ever

    I found the guys in Blanch very friendly and welcoming last time I was there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 966 ✭✭✭alentejo


    Will miss the Ridgeback bikes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Dawn Rider


    garstmax wrote: »
    I went in there once and after pottering around for a while one of the guys finally came over to me, I was buying a new road bike so he suggested I look at the Stevens which he didn't have, took all my details Ph and email said he call me in a week, bought a Giant 2 weeks later from some where else, he never got in touch.

    Wonder how many people did this happen to? In business you can't afford to do this, I certainly wouldn't be in able to do it in mine.

    Im sure there are loads of people on boards who have either lost their business or have been made unemployed so hopefully things will work out for all that worked there.

    Counter staff don't often call potential customers because there seems to be a belief that they'll probably find what they're looking for elsewhere. And if the customer really wanted it or couldn't find it somewhere else, they'd come back. The shop could then make inquiries to their suppliers.

    There's also no accountability if a customer doesn't come back. Of course, you cant force someone to buy off you, but you could at least try and help them spend.

    I don't care if a bad salesman loses his job because he obviously didn't care about it either. He can either re-train or sit at home moaning about how special he is and how the world owes him a living.
    It's different when good workers lose their jobs through no fault of their own, but I don't think that's the case with this bike shop.

    The only time I got a call-back from a sport shop was from 53' North in Dundrum last summer when I was looking for a tent. It wasn't in stock, so the guy rang me a few days later and I bought it then. Pretty straightforward really...:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭radiat



    Not being open for the 8:30 I need a tube now crowd didn't help either.

    yeah, i often say people waiting around outside for it to open (including me once).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭mc mc


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    I found the guys in Blanch very friendly and welcoming last time I was there.

    Would have to say the same they have built a bike up for me, top class, always helpful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 261 ✭✭Wheely GR8


    Dawn Rider wrote: »
    Counter staff don't often call potential customers because there seems to be a belief that they'll probably find what they're looking for elsewhere. And if the customer really wanted it or couldn't find it somewhere else, they'd come back. The shop could then make inquiries to their suppliers.

    Thats the laziest excuse I've heard in a while ,no wonder theres a recession on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭ck101


    Sorry to hear this.

    I went in there 6 years ago and got great advice from a welsh guy. The result was I spent a significant amount on the bike, spares etc.

    He recommend great kit and I'm still riding the same bike.

    I never had any problems other than the location which I did feel at the time was a little hard to get to especially if you were collecting a bike and not intending to cycle it home.

    Other than Humphries which is operating in a space all of its own I notice bike shops are getting bigger, brighter and more corporate. Ie. Wheelworkz, Eurocycles.

    Amazing that a shop can go under when more are buying bikes than ever before,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭Indricotherium


    On the subject of their sales technique, a friend of mine went in there to buy a bike with 700€ of a budget.

    He was told "this is 700, but it's ****"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,479 ✭✭✭rollingscone


    On the subject of their sales technique, a friend of mine went in there to buy a bike with 700€ of a budget.

    He was told "this is 700, but it's ****"

    Well you can't fault the honesty. Maybe they could have phrased it "I don't think you'll get the level of performance you're looking for at that budget".

    But surely "don't waste your money on that shi*" is better than being sold bicycle shaped magic beans?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    Well you can't fault the honesty. Maybe they could have phrased it "I don't think you'll get the level of performance you're looking for at that budget".

    But surely "don't waste your money on that shi*" is better than being sold bicycle shaped magic beans?


    So why were they carrying **** bikes then?

    If I was told that in a shop, I'd be wondering if the rest of the products were ****.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,085 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    BX 19 wrote: »
    So why were they carrying **** bikes then?

    If I was told that in a shop, I'd be wondering if the rest of the products were ****.

    Not everyone wants/can afford to buy the best stuff. You have to carry a balance of quality gear against stuff that's lower priced. If you only carry high quality gear you end up looking expensive. Most customers aren't clued into what the good brands/features are. You'd inevitably have people coming in and saying 'Jesus you're expensive compared to 'Shop B' up the road'. No amount of telling them that it's not the same product or that yours is simply better will change their perception that you seem expensive.

    If someone walks by your shop and see's that the cheapest bike is €900 most times they'll keep walking as they saw another place do a similar bike with similar features for half that price.

    I sell technology products for a living and frequently we'll have folk come in and say our televisions are expensive. They can get the same sized TV in Dunnes for half the price. It's not the same brand, doesn't have the same features but it's the same size and says Full HD.
    Needless to say we've had plenty come back afterwards when it's broken sooner than it really should have or when something has gone wrong and they can't get any sort of customer service from the supermarket.

    You have to stock the cheaper products to get people in the doors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭Tomred13


    Cliff, Alan , Tony n dave cheers for the great service over the years! always found them sound to deal with!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 562 ✭✭✭barrabus


    have the doors closed?
    Is there a sell off of stock?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,510 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    Dawn Rider wrote: »
    Counter staff don't often call potential customers because there seems to be a belief that they'll probably find what they're looking for elsewhere. And if the customer really wanted it or couldn't find it somewhere else, they'd come back. The shop could then make inquiries to their suppliers.

    There's also no accountability if a customer doesn't come back. Of course, you cant force someone to buy off you, but you could at least try and help them spend.

    I don't care if a bad salesman loses his job because he obviously didn't care about it either. He can either re-train or sit at home moaning about how special he is and how the world owes him a living.
    It's different when good workers lose their jobs through no fault of their own, but I don't think that's the case with this bike shop.

    The only time I got a call-back from a sport shop was from 53' North in Dundrum last summer when I was looking for a tent. It wasn't in stock, so the guy rang me a few days later and I bought it then. Pretty straightforward really...:)

    I have recently learned that working in bike shops is a tiring and emotionally draining activity. Everyone knows how a car works, they know what they want and which extras to get. You would be amazed the number of people who come in and ask for a spare tube without knowing either what size or what type of valve the need. The incredulous look, as if it is somehow your fault, that you receive when you try to explain that you really, really want to sell them a tube, but there are so many sizes to pick from, lightweight, presta, long valve...oh the list goes on? Please, customer, help me help you!

    "But it's just for a hybrid, what tube do I need?"

    Add that to "I could get cheaper oil at the servo", "why can't they sell the bike with multiple types of pedals, why does it have to come with these ones?" and (from a middle aged man with hot, artificially enhanced wife pointing at a Giant 24" kids bike) "I want that one, I don't like big wheels"

    I've thought about beating myself to death with a shoe many times. A nice carbon soled SIDI would be fitting and effective.

    Yes, if you work in a bike shop, prepare for stupid questions because at some point they were questions you probably asked yourself. But try listening to them for 9 hours a day while feigning a smile, it can be hard to keep the "salesman" enthusiasm going, it's not as glamorous as selling cars (used to be).

    In many ways it is a lot like "boards! The broadway musical" but with fewer catchy numbers.

    Anyway, cycleogical, you will be missed. I bought my Ridley there and even after I brought it back because I was sold the wrong size, you patiently sized me up on a turbo trainer. Which was difficult because I had an inner ear infection at the time and my lack of balance made for some comical dismounts.


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