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What one tip would you give someone heading to OZ?

  • 13-02-2012 1:34pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭


    Apart from bring sun screen..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,247 ✭✭✭Esse85


    Be patient when job hunting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Slunk


    Bring an Irish extension lead so you only need one plug adapter. And invest in a decent adapter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 777 ✭✭✭dRNk SAnTA


    Bring some of your favourite tea bags (and give em to me)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭myflipflops


    Slunk wrote: »
    Bring an Irish extension lead so you only need one plug adapter. And invest in a decent adapter

    Great tip for any country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,414 ✭✭✭GiftofGab


    Make sure you travel the country and don't get stuck in one city the whole time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,917 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Stop comparing everything to Ireland asap


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭markymark21


    Apart from bring sun screen..

    Make sure your CV is tip-top, bring plenty of money, tea-bags and a good travel buddy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭massdebater


    Enjoy yourself and be respectful. Don't give the Irish a bad name.

    Go with an open mind too, you will enjoy it more.

    Buy a watermelon as soon as you land, they're unreal over here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,750 ✭✭✭sudzs


    Buy a watermelon as soon as you land, they're unreal over here.

    Same goes for avacados! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 621 ✭✭✭dave3004


    - Don’t be scared to ask for help. My friends and I have been to hell and back some times over here but whether its asking for a lend of money to afford a bond for an apt, or whether its suncream when you're down the beach because you forgot yours, we are all out here trying to succeed together and that comradery can be seen a lot when here. People and friends will help you out if you ask for it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭woolymammoth


    remove your phone from your pocket before running like en eejit into the ocean.


    :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    remove your phone from your pocket before running like en eejit into the ocean.


    You dont need to run.

    Another wave will be along shortly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    Leave your GAA jersey at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭skipz


    If you wanna stay and make it happen, keep the drink low key until your a bit more settled.

    Seen a few lads come over, drink like their in Ibiza for 2/3 weeks, get depressed after a drinking, book a flight back home and hav'nt even seen anything other than a hostel, McDonalds and the bottle shop.

    Seriously, if you wanna do that go to Spain, Australia is for living!!

    2 days is the worst iv seen. landed, 2 day bender and home, wtf!


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 aido06


    stay out of the irish bars, there is better pubs in the city. leave the gaa jersey for the match days. get to no the locates, the work will come once a week have me time very important go 4 a walk on the beach watch a dvd.

    travel its a savage spot dont say no to nothing, leave whatever happen in ireland in ireland!! get to no other backpacker ul have friends for life. dont live with irish not a bad thing but i live with english french italy etc had a ball with them.

    and ring home every now and then, its great to hear from your best mate at 4am and dont get the irish a bad name be street wise!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭Cooperspale


    Come over with an open mind about life and get outdoors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭woolymammoth


    The Aussie wrote: »
    You dont need to run.

    Another wave will be along shortly.
    well that's no good to me now!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭universe777


    Bring as much money as you can (sell your granny if you have to) or you'll end up like the Irish guy I seen on gumtree - homeless on the streets, no money and looking for somewhere to stay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭jackbhoy


    Don't try to recreate a mini-Ireland in Oz, embrace what's different here rather than missing what you dont have from home!


  • Registered Users Posts: 836 ✭✭✭uberalles


    There are 7 deadly snakes in Australia. Do everyone a favour and find all 7 of them and kill them!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭jank


    skipz wrote: »
    If you wanna stay and make it happen, keep the drink low key until your a bit more settled.

    Seen a few lads come over, drink like their in Ibiza for 2/3 weeks, get depressed after a drinking, book a flight back home and hav'nt even seen anything other than a hostel, McDonalds and the bottle shop.

    Seriously, if you wanna do that go to Spain, Australia is for living!!

    2 days is the worst iv seen. landed, 2 day bender and home, wtf!

    2 days? Christ! for that ammount of money you could rent a call girl for the weekend in London and have change for burger and chips. What a waste of money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 loueeeeeez


    If you intend to stay for the 2nd year do your 3 months regional work as soon as you arrive!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,855 ✭✭✭Charlie Haughy


    Dont be picky when it comes to work, apply in as many places as possible both in person and online, thats what I think anyway! I've known of some people to have come over here over the past few years, looking for work, be it casual or something specific. 2 months here and no work, and they have to head back home. But then you find out that they barely applied for many jobs and didn't even try that hard in getting work. Thought it was one big holiday.


    Also, in my opinion, stay in a hostel until you have full time work IN CASE you dont get work after a month or 2 of trying. Keep moving from hostel A to Hostel B and back to A etc. if you have to, dont commit to a 6 - 12 month apartment before you have work just in case. The bond will take a MASSIVE chunk of your savings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭karl bracken


    Use currencyfair to transfer money, now is a bad time Euro is down against Dollar.

    Keep all your money in one Super fund as they all charge for the pleasure of gambling your money on the stock exchange and a monthly fee. Your bank should give you details of their superfund, look into them and put it all in there.

    Dont buy a round of shots for 10 people you just met lol

    Gumtree is a cheap place to find lots of stuff for a new place.

    Lots of happy hours and 10 Dollar food deals in pubs which are actually good food in most places

    Visas can be done by yourself plenty of help in this forum for it if you get sponsored.

    I will fix any computer issues you have just pm me lol

    Have a good time and get work before you spend all your money assuming work will come easy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭markymark21


    remove your phone from your pocket before running like en eejit into the ocean.


    :(

    haha, wasn't an I-Phone or something along those lines was it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭woolymammoth


    haha, wasn't an I-Phone or something along those lines was it?
    ahh.. no! just an old nokia. Still, quickly went from :) to :(, then :o, and then ran back in a second time :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    Also, in my opinion, stay in a hostel until you have full time work IN CASE you dont get work after a month or 2 of trying. Keep moving from hostel A to Hostel B and back to A etc. if you have to, dont commit to a 6 - 12 month apartment before you have work just in case. The bond will take a MASSIVE chunk of your savings.

    True, but a lease is not legally binding. If you sign a 12 month lease and then after 3 months you decide to leave, as long as you give the appropriate notice by law then the landlord must return your bond. Make sure to get your bond lodged with the RTBA if you dont trust the landlord.

    Also if you are in a rooming house, i.e. 4 or more people live in the house and are renting a room each, then you only need to give 2 days notice to leave! I fu*ked some former dodgey landlords over by using that golden piece of legislation :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭amybabes


    Lot of laughs reading this.

    My advice is more of a serious nature. And would like to stress that this is purely my opinion and down to my experiences here over the last 3 years.


    1)Don't be picky about work
    I'm going to be honest - things are slowing down. A big Australian construction company let 500 staff go in Sydney last week. Also feedback from my friends tell me temp work in Sydney and Melbourne has slowed down.
    As long as you want to work and are not too picky - you should find work.
    It is getting harder for people just arriving on working holiday visas as they are competing with people here a few years who may be sponsored etc and have Australian employer references.
    Don't expect to have a job the day you land. Sometimes it works like that, for me it did - but that was 3 years ago. In the past few months, I have seen people waiting 2 months to get a job and also someone who got a job the 2nd week of looking.
    CHANGE your resume to the Australian format. There's a big difference!

    2) Don't have unrealistic expectations about the money you will make. Yes we have all heard of so an so working in the mines making $$$$$$'s who doesn't have the time to spend the money he's making/ is buying a house at home outright etc.
    Realistically - I know one or two people, at the top of their trade with years of experience who are actually doing this. Most people are the same. And they do 12 hour shifts 7 days a week in the middle of nowhere to earn this kind of money.
    I'm so sick of hearing - "i'm going to go to Perth, that's where the big money is" - truth is, anyone I personally know who has landed in perth in the last 3 or 4 months has really struggled to get work and especially a rental property. Seems to be a lack of both for the demand. And my tradesman friends are making the same money in Sydney/Melbourne as the ones in Perth.

    Reality is - I make a decent living and have a great lifestyle. Some weeks I haven't a bean - but that's mostly down to me having too good a time. Count yourself lucky to have a chance of working and maintain a decent social life.

    When home last August I heard a girl tell me about her friend who was going to move to Australia with her boyfriend and 3 kids on working holiday visas, she was going to stay at home to mind the kids - he was making x amount of Euros as an electrician in Ireland (which was going to automatically double in Australia coz thats what can be made according to this one!) and they were all going to live off of half his wages and send home half to save - so they'd save about 50 grand a year and come home after 5 years and buy a house outright.
    I just sat there and nodded. Do people really have this unrealistic view of Australia?

    3)Be prepared to pay for living in some of the biggest and best cities in the world!
    I live in the Eastern suburbs in Sydney. Its expensive. Especially if you are single and want your own room. But remember where you are. Unless you lived centrally in Dublin in the good times, you will probably have a heart attack when you get here and see what the going rate for decent accomodation is. But even though my rent is expensive, I still have a good chunk of my wages left to play with every week after rent and bills are paid. Pay is good, rent is expensive. That's just how it goes. I wake up every day and can see the ocean from my bedroom. Worth every cent.

    4)When you land - you have 12 months on your visa - don't wait until the last few weeks to decide you don't want to go home!
    Visas take time and preparation. If possible, do your regional work first so you have the 2nd year option available straight away. Good regional work is getting harder to find with the crazy weather we are getting the past couple of years.

    5)Applying for a rental property is no walk in the park
    My friend who landed in January thought you could just look at a property online, ring the estate agents and say "i'll take it!"
    Its a soul destroying process - you'll show up for a viewing which could be in the middle of the day on a week day so you'll usually need to get off work. There'll be lots of people there who all want it. Many will have their application forms and deposits in hand.
    Application forms want years of rental and employment references aswell as 100 points of identity - which is hard to gather up, usually want Australian utility bills in your name etc. Try and get as much as you can together from home - letters from landlords, rent receipts etc.
    Just as a guide - moving into our last place, over 2 months we viewed about 30 properties, applied for 6, eventually got 1 but ended up having to live on a friend's floor for a few days in between. It's tough!

    That's my main advice for people just coming. Hope it helps! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    amybabes wrote: »
    When home last August I heard a girl tell me about her friend who was going to move to Australia with her boyfriend and 3 kids on working holiday visas, she was going to stay at home to mind the kids - he was making x amount of Euros as an electrician in Ireland (which was going to automatically double in Australia coz thats what can be made according to this one!) and they were all going to live off of half his wages and send home half to save - so they'd save about 50 grand a year and come home after 5 years and buy a house outright.
    I just sat there and nodded. Do people really have this unrealistic view of Australia?

    Wow, some people really are just that stupid!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 85 ✭✭whippetgood


    The Aussie wrote: »
    You dont need to run.

    Another wave will be along shortly.

    Beaut.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,414 ✭✭✭GiftofGab


    04072511 wrote: »
    Also if you are in a rooming house, i.e. 4 or more people live in the house and are renting a room each, then you only need to give 2 days notice to leave! I fu*ked some former dodgey landlords over by using that golden piece of legislation :)

    This is a beauty. I plan on moving out next week. Do you know where I can find some official documents on this?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭jank


    04072511 wrote: »
    True, but a lease is not legally binding. If you sign a 12 month lease and then after 3 months you decide to leave, as long as you give the appropriate notice by law then the landlord must return your bond. Make sure to get your bond lodged with the RTBA if you dont trust the landlord.

    Just a word of warning here. This may not be true. Just tread carefully if they want to break a lease. A lease is a contract at the end of the day which has legal apsects to it.

    DYOR.
    http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/Tenants_and_home_owners/Renting_a_home/Ending_a_tenancy/Breaking_a_lease_early.html

    Costs you may have to pay
    Breaking your tenancy agreement during the fixed term can be costly. You may have to pay:

    rent until a new tenant takes over or the fixed term period ends, whichever occurs first, and
    a percentage of the advertising costs and the agent's reletting fee (if the landlord uses an agent). For example, if you break the lease 9 months into a 12 month tenancy there is about 25% of the lease remaining, so you would expect to pay 25% of these amounts.
    If you need to end your agreement early you should give as much notice as you can. The landlord or agent must take all reasonable steps to find a replacement tenant as soon as possible. The more you can do to help, the less you may have to pay. You should make it as easy as possible for the landlord or agent to show the premises to potential new tenants.

    Always remember that renting is a two way process. Good tenants are just as hard to find as good landlords.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    jank wrote: »
    Just a word of warning here. This may not be true. Just tread carefully if they want to break a lease. A lease is a contract at the end of the day which has legal apsects to it.

    DYOR.
    http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/Tenants_and_home_owners/Renting_a_home/Ending_a_tenancy/Breaking_a_lease_early.html




    Always remember that renting is a two way process. Good tenants are just as hard to find as good landlords.

    Yeh you may be right actually. If it's a fixed term lease then you can't just go and break a lease easily like that. But if it's a periodic lease then it is easy.

    http://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/~/media/files/forms/housing-and-accommodation/renting/notice-to-vacate-to-tenants-of-rented-premises.pdf

    However if you want to get out of a fixed term lease my advice would be to scour the Residential Tenancy Act to find something that the landlord has done illegally, and then use this as blackmail to get out of the lease. Examples include:

    1) Landlord not lodging your bond with the RTBA.
    2) Landlord not giving you a condition report at the start of your lease

    If you notice that they have done something illegal then you can basically point that out to them and threaten to report them if they don't let you leave the lease early. :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭jank


    Jaysus, what is this. Screw the landlord day?

    I can assure you that most landlords or agencys usually follow the law and do all those things you mentioned. Unfortunately blackmailing the landlord will be seen as just that.

    For someone who was giving out about cash payment for wages on another thread, you are not doing yourself a favour here. Speaking from two sides of your mouth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    jank wrote: »
    Jaysus, what is this. Screw the landlord day?

    I can assure you that most landlords or agencys usually follow the law and do all those things you mentioned. Unfortunately blackmailing the landlord will be seen as just that.

    For someone who was giving out about cash payment for wages on another thread, you are not doing yourself a favour here. Speaking from two sides of your mouth.

    Yeh I just don’t trust landlords. I had a horrific experience with landlords early last year in Melbourne. There was not a single thing they did that was legal. Didnt lodge my bond, no condition report, charged one months rent and one months bond when the maximum for a rooming house by law is 2 weeks, tried to illegally evict me without notice, wouldn’t replace my carpet damaged through flooding. And to add insult to injusry, I found out half way through my time staying there that the 2 landlords were drug dealers, and that they didn’t have any of their properties registered with the local council. The house didn’t reach safety standards, and I’m pretty sure they were paying no tax.

    Funny thing was that had they just replaced my carpet then I would not have started researching the law and discover the 1297 things they did that were fully illegal. I ended up getting them into a lot of trouble. Good enough for the tight c*nts!

    So apologies to you sir if I do not trust landlords.

    And to be honest, if the landlord is doing something illegal like not lodging somebodys bond then what is wrong with somebody looking to get out of a fixed lease?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭jank


    I don't mind one way or the other but I hate someone on a high horse while then doing the opposite. "Do as I say, not what I do."

    I saw that thread about your previous experience. It is easy to avoid such landlords. Number one, avoid living in a dumb. Number two, if rooming, rent from the tenant directly not a landlord who doesn't live there. If you want to rent an apartment or unit, use an agency.

    Most landlords/agencies in my experience are decent and follow the law. Finding "loopholes" to break a lease wont get you far with them and you will basically be shooting yourself in the foot as you will have no option but to lease of dodgy landlords as you will have no references built up. I know that I can get onto my property manager and put us on a shortlist for new units that pop up in an area that we may want to move to. As I said good tenants are very valuable to landlords and I have personal experience in dealing with bad and good tenants.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 178 ✭✭Paddy Bateman


    Apart from bring sun screen..
    Bring loads and loads of condoms for those easy Australian hotties !


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,855 ✭✭✭Charlie Haughy


    ^^

    This is true. Condoms cannot be bought in Australia.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭jank


    04072511 wrote: »

    And to be honest, if the landlord is doing something illegal like not lodging somebodys bond then what is wrong with somebody looking to get out of a fixed lease?

    Hmmm, really?
    04072511 wrote: »
    No offense, but if you are going to do something which is illegal (working for cash in hand) then you can't complain when somebody else does something just as illegal (not pay you). You have no leg to stand on.

    In your own words tough ****!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,240 ✭✭✭hussey


    jank wrote: »
    04072511 wrote: »
    ....

    Hmmm, really?
    04072511 wrote: »
    ...
    ...
    Mod - back on track guys, please


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  • Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭Mr NoTV


    Forget Ireland. Aus is nothing like it :D
    Also forget how you drive / park / behave ... laws are enforced and the police don't listen to excuses. If in doubt, ask an Aussie mate ... then check again.
    I asked a mate if I could park in a certain zone in Melbourne - he said yes. I got a parking fine. His response? "Ah look, you can park there mate, I wouldn't"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    Mr NoTV wrote: »
    "Ah look, you can park there mate, I wouldn't"


    Sounds like one of my stupid jokes i play on people, Brilliant:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 ciaran kinvara2012


    if u smoke ciggerettes smoke the choice blue or gold they are the same as silk cut at home and they are much cheaper.


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