Trolls

Chuck Stone wrote: »

I'm a troll.

Problem?

Trolls make nice pests. . .

That would appear to be a racist, not a troll.
"There ya go, that's an internet troll, that's what they look like" :rolleyes:

TeddyTedson wrote: »

I've been called a troll just because I disagreed with people on this very forum.
I'm not, as Silverfish has said to me personally, "You don't appear to be trolling". (Silverfish is an admin with a lot of respect)

I kinda agree with SF, Teddy, but you're not the best man to take a hint sometimes, even from mods, and even when it becomes a very strong hint.

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Calling someone a troll on an internet is the most offensive thing you can really.

No, it's not.

I can think of many many worse things, and ones that are all too common 'net usage. Most of them, thankfully, would get you banned on Boards.

TeddyTedson wrote: »

It's like saying that person doesn't exist.

Um ...

TeddyTedson wrote: »

People throw the word around way too often without understanding the meaning and history of the word.

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It's far to easy to dismiss someones points.

I would agree with you to an extent there, troll is an overused term, and often misused to dismiss points of view which somebody doesn't agree with.

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Look at KeithAFC. The guy was once a reputable poster but now everyone just sees the guy as a complete joke. It all started by people calling him a "troll".

No, it all started with Keith's views and how he expressed them.

He has to know that he pisses off a lot of people on this site, not so much with his views but with how he expresses them.

Yet he constantly comes back, from which I would deduce that he gets a certain satisfaction from that.

Now, if someone is getting satisfaction from annoying and winding up others on the 'net, he's not that far from trolling tbh.

Mind you, I only mention Keith because he had already been named and discussed here; there are other Keith-a-likes and Anti-Keiths around too.

TeddyTedson wrote: »

People should be 100% sure before they go around making accusations like that. It can destroy a users life. (Online persona I'm talking about).

Jeez, Teddy, over-dramatic or what? Even with that caveat!

every time someone on boards, most likely AH, says the word troll.

I picture in my head the lil things from the 90s, troll heads, with the mad hair.





An we all know that we cut the hair off them thinkin it would grow back,

suicide_circus wrote: »

Not far?! Getting your rocks off by annoying people on the internet IS trolling.

Depends on the definition of trolling you're using.

To some, a troll was someone who adopted a persona or stance which was not genuine to their own beliefs in order to wind people up.

Over the years, this has generally widened out to encompass the broader definition you suggest. Some interesting thoughts here btw.

TeddyTedson wrote: »

What a beautifully formatted and well typed out post:)

Why, thank you, Sir!

/bows

TeddyTedson wrote: »

What do you mean about not being the best at taking hints from the mods at times?

Ah, now, Teddy, I will leave you to engage in some critical self-reflection on your history on Boards, and to answer that one for yourself!!

WindSock wrote: »

They are mostly attention whores and too chicken to say the stuff they do in real life. To real people. People with knives and fists and things.

not really, trolls are nomally very smart/humorous folks who make everyone laugh, Sadly their are aot of ****e ones...

WindSock wrote: »

They are mostly attention whores and too chicken to say the stuff they do in real life. To real people. People with knives and fists and things.

quoted for truth!

some people have nothing better to do with their time,and they see the internet as one big anonymous playground with no consequences,people who are aware of/deliberately cause mass trouble.
there are highly inteligent trolls whom have such a use of language and a way with communication that they do not appear to be the grass roots level of trolls and may be seen as being on the borderline or not at all.
from own view,all of these are all 'trolls'.

then there are the type who have borderlinePD and/or pyschopathic tendencies, they look for bait-usualy vulnerable people such as on support forums for mental health or disabilities,they 'groom',manipulate,take advantage of, bully, abuse and wear down targets,they also want to 'look' mentaly and intelectualy superior so they pick a vulnerable target to not appear as subnormal themselves.
they may think of themselves as trolls and project their behavior onto someone else whilst completely denieing any self responsibility.
this type is a predatory bully with mental issues and is not a troll.

then there are people who get mistaken to be trolls because of the manner of how they present themselves.
-not forgeting those who are called trolls as a way of taking the attention away from something its caller said.

I troll. It's a hobby. I've been trolled and I got respect for the ones that put the effort in. It's like a psychological art form, if you do it right.

An example I've mentioned before, there's a particular forum I've been trolling for six years, now. I have multiple sock puppet accounts, a bunch of unused ones I keep on hand just in case, and a "Main character" that keeps on getting banned. My sock puppet accounts range from respected members of the online community to people that are just there. I'll stage an argument between one of them and my main character to see who picks sides with who, then throw in another sock puppet or two. It gets hysterical.

It's not just about the funny, the things people tell you are amazing. I know secrets, different people trust either the sock puppets or the main character. It's interesting to see how lives get played out and how people react. You see the ACTUAL them as opposed to the persona they want people online to see, usually some Joe Cool thing. Another example is a place I trolled in the same way for a while, with one of the users being a self-appointed "Forum-B!tch." She sucked at being a b!tch and was mostly just confused all the time and a bit of an idiot, but sweet at the same time. She just wanted to be high school cool. A bit of pushing in the right direction and she becomes her actual self. It's liberating to not have to try any more, and fun to see the transition.

Also, I do troll in real life as much as one can. People put forth the same fake personality as they might on the 'net, I break it to see what they're really like. We're an emotional species, but afraid to show our emotions, especially us dudes where it's not particularly socially acceptable. If you do let your guard down and become real, it's an amazing feeling. I know, trust, y'all.

A good troll is one that can lead you in such a way you're unaware of it. A bad troll is one that posts pictures of gore and cp. It's like the difference between Martyrs and Hostel. Both are gory films, what makes them different? The psychology behind it, man.

Excellent well done trolling I respect and try to emulate sometimes. I'm not very good at it though.

Bad trolling is a waste of time imo.

I'm currently trolling all my 'friends' on Facebook.

Everyone that writes RIP Whitney, The greatest. gets a 'Just another dead junkie' reply, usually followed by a rant about how i have never heard them listen to her or mention her in the last 10+ years.

Picture of Klanfield and Suarez in KK uniform or the like get great response and i can knock hours out of some people.

Tis great craic.

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Most people aren't trolls, they just get called that because they have a different opinion. Pathetic

F**king troll :pac:

The King of Moo wrote: »

You should have put more into it, it was pretty clear you were trolling.

The Daily Mail is the best newspaper.
Trolling is something I've tried to figure out myself.
I think that often, a troll is someone with low self-esteem who's seeking attention.
They don't feel that they can get this in a positive way (I don't think it's a coincidence that lots of trolls complain about fora being full of cliques) so they piss people off out of spite but also to get noticed.
We shouldn't allow foreign people into the country.
It's something most adults either grow out of or never do in real life as it would lead to confrontation or backlash.
The anonymity and lack of real-life consequences on the internet, however, allow them to keep it up.
Abolish the dole for people who wear tracksuits.
I sometimes feel a bit sorry for them, as they obviously have some emotional issues.
Though of course some people just enjoy getting a rise out of others.
Suarez isn't racist.
What I've noticed, and in some ways find more annoying than proper trolling, is when people genuinely have a controversial opinion, but still only post in situations where they're going to annoy people with it.
They're basically the same as trolls, except their opinions are real. You see lots of people, for example, with extreme right-wing views who only ever post about these views, and never get involved in any other types of discussions.
And if they're ever questioned or provided with evidence that contradicts what they've said, they just won't respond.
Irish wimminz are the worst like!
To me, they're worse than trolls who are clearly trolling. They simply can't see any other point of view beyond their own limited one, and are so consumed with anger and maybe self-loathing that they keep getting angry about made-up tabloid stories and then posting in such a way that they know they'll get people angry and get lots of negative attention for themselves.

I think it's only about seeking attention if a troll feels the need to come out afterwards and be all "o lol I trolling look at me". Some people just can't get it right.

And I c what you did thar.