short fillum idea..

yermanoffthetv · 13-02-2012 02:53AM

nice_very wrote: »

yeahhhh, I was thinking it could be done in a grainy B & W, with the grey that are our skies, it would emphasise the depression and blandness that we feel.

...while you lay on the couch in your jocks playing xbox and eating pop tarts

ColeTrain · 13-02-2012 02:55AM

nice_very wrote: »

done right, I think it would be very eye-opening, especially to those that put all dole people in the same box

There's nearly half a million people on it and we live in a small country. The vast majority know someone on it or have been on it themselves for a period. It might close more eyes than open them..

cloptrop · 13-02-2012 02:55AM

OP who would watch this film.
This would be just as appealing as making a film about a fella that works in a factory day in day out except without the crazy weekend you get with a wage packet.
I would call this worst story ever, needs more dragons and ****.
What about a fella on the dole trying to pay for his dragon food. The dragon gets hungry and starts burning **** .
Its be better in colour though , its make the dragon look way cooler. Maybe a piano track now and again on the soundtrack for the "oh its art" stuff you seem to be trying to achieve.

Overheal · 13-02-2012 02:56AM

WHAT IS FILLUM

nice_very · 13-02-2012 02:56AM

later10 wrote: »

My sister did a short film/skit on a homeless gentleman in a top hat and a morning suit, wielding a cane, and begging on the Ha'penny bridge at (roughly) the beginning of the cetlic tiger's downfall in 2007.

That was before the effects of austerity had begun to take effect.

Looking back on it, I actually think it was a particularly interesting depiction of Irish people's (dis)belief in the serious recession that was about to unfold.

So do what you want, OP. The worst that can happen is that you get demonised as a doom mongerer. Sadly, in our economy, the doom mongerers have generally been proven quite correct:(

thanks for that, I was hoping people would see my idea as a possible eye-opening truth, that we are not all layabout spongers and we do want to work, with the depression and desperation that being on the dole brings about.

whatsamsn · 13-02-2012 02:59AM

nice_very wrote: »

as the title says, I'd love to do a docu called "a week on the dole" exploring the desperation, boredom, frustration that an honest dole person has, the struggle to exist, have a presence and seek validation...

any film-makers out there interested? its a story that needs to be told, I feel

* fillum
* docu

get out.

Liam Byrne · 13-02-2012 03:01AM

nice_very wrote: »

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Er, no it doesn't.

you see that comma in the OP Liam?

I did. That wasn't what I was getting at.

nice_very · 13-02-2012 03:01AM

yermanoffthetv wrote: »

...while you lay on the couch in your jocks playing xbox and eating pop tarts

I dont have an xbox or any other games console, the couch is too short for me to lie on it, its too cold and I cant afford coal to light a fire to be in my jocks, I've not seen pop tarts in 15 years...

anything else?

you are the kind of person I would love if you saw a docu like this, if only to break down your preconcieved notions

nice_very · 13-02-2012 03:03AM

whatsamsn wrote: »

* fillum
* docu

get out.

its my thread, you get out

humberklog · 13-02-2012 03:04AM

nice_very wrote: »

, I've not seen pop tarts in 15 years...

Now this, this is interesting.

You might be onto something here.

nice_very · 13-02-2012 03:05AM

cloptrop wrote: »

OP who would watch this film.
This would be just as appealing as making a film about a fella that works in a factory day in day out except without the crazy weekend you get with a wage packet.
I would call this worst story ever, needs more dragons and ****.
What about a fella on the dole trying to pay for his dragon food. The dragon gets hungry and starts burning **** .
Its be better in colour though , its make the dragon look way cooler. Maybe a piano track now and again on the soundtrack for the "oh its art" stuff you seem to be trying to achieve.

good for you jim sheridan/oscar winning director

cloptrop · 13-02-2012 03:05AM

humberklog wrote: »

Now this, this is interesting.

You might be onto something here.

A black andwhite film about one mans quest to see a pop tart before he goes completely blind from too much sun exposure.

cloptrop · 13-02-2012 03:07AM

nice_very wrote: »

good for you jim sheridan/oscar winning director

Cinema goer would be my proper title and I wouldnt spend money on that drudgery I get enough of that these days.

Liam Byrne · 13-02-2012 03:08AM

cloptrop wrote: »

humberklog wrote: »

Now this, this is interesting.

You might be onto something here.

A black andwhite film about one mans quest to see a pop tart before he goes completely blind from too much sun exposure.

He followed Madonna to sunny adoptive countries ?

humberklog · 13-02-2012 03:08AM

cloptrop wrote: »

A black andwhite film about one mans quest to see a pop tart before he goes completely blind from too much sun exposure.

Bergman bumming Ibsen? Movie short gold mesays.

cloptrop · 13-02-2012 03:10AM

Liam Byrne wrote: »

He followed Madonna to sunny adoptive countries ?

A black and white film about one mans quest to see madonna before he goes blind from eating the first pop tart he has seen in 15 years.

Overheal · 13-02-2012 03:10AM

cloptrop wrote: »

A black andwhite film about one mans quest to see a pop tart before he goes completely blind from too much sun exposure.

Ill take a photo the next time im in the grocery store.

Really you aren't missing much. Last year I had a craving, acted on it... and was kinda disgusted really. They are mostly sugar. Sugar coating, sugar pastry, sugar filling. And that was just strawberry.

when I actually throw up a photo of the flavors on offer these days, you ought to be kinda repulsed. It's gotten patently ridiculous.

nice_very · 13-02-2012 03:13AM

cloptrop, humberk, overheal and liam.................. GET A ROOM

Liam Byrne · 13-02-2012 03:13AM

cloptrop wrote: »

Liam Byrne wrote: »

He followed Madonna to sunny adoptive countries ?

A black and white film about one mans quest to see madonna before he goes blind from eating the first pop tart he has seen in 15 years.

Why would he eat Madonna ?

whatsamsn · 13-02-2012 03:13AM

nice_very wrote: »

its my thread, you get out

cant help but post in shite :pac:
Im sorry, I really should stop

humberklog · 13-02-2012 03:13AM

nice_very wrote: »

cloptrop, humberk, overheal and liam.................. GET A ROOM

Get an AGENT!

cloptrop · 13-02-2012 03:15AM

Would a strawberry pop tart look any different to an apple pop tart in black and white. Apart from the fact tht one would have strawberry on it and one would have apple.

Anyway op you need some sort of story to your film , not just some charlie chaplin impersonator sending off letters and looking sad. There have been a million films and series made about people on the dole.
The full monty , shameless are the first two I could think of. The success of these is because they dont just have the dole as the story . You need to layer it have a beginning middle and end. What you have is the title to your film nothing else.

later12 · 13-02-2012 03:15AM

nice_very wrote: »

...I was hoping people would see my idea as a possible eye-opening truth, that we are not all layabout spongers and we do want to work, with the depression and desperation that being on the dole brings about.

Oh yes, and I don't mean to criticise that at all.

I would rather enjoy a documentary such as you have suggested.

As a mid-20s Irish male I could very easily have found myself in the position of a lot of my compatriots, were it not for the intervention of fate that I didnn't get involved in the construction boom.

Mere co-incidence saved me from my fate, and I am eternally grateful for that happenstance. The idea that those who have to rely on the dole do so out of laziness (as much out of resignation) is as it is as puerile is tragically deluded.

nice_very · 13-02-2012 03:18AM

I know this is AH and I expected the trolls/idiots.. you have shown yourselves.

humberklog · 13-02-2012 03:19AM

nice_very wrote: »

I know this is AH and I expected the trolls/idiots.. you have shown yourselves.

And knowing that you still posted here? Hmmmm...poptarts.

cloptrop · 13-02-2012 03:20AM

Thats not very nice now is it.

nice_very · 13-02-2012 03:22AM

later10 wrote: »

Oh yes, and I don't mean to criticise that at all.

I would rather enjoy a documentary such as you have suggested.

As a mid-20s Irish male I could very easily have found myself in the position of a lot of my compatriots, were it not for the intervention of fate that I didnn't get involved in the construction boom.

Mere co-incidence saved me from my fate, and I am eternally grateful for that happenstance. The idea that those who have to rely on the dole out of laziness is as it is as puerile is tragically deluded.

again.. thanks later... I also would be in worse circumstance if not for not being here during the boom..

"The idea that those who have to rely on the dole out of laziness is as it is as puerile is tragically deluded" there are some on the dole from pure laziness, I am trying to put forward that not all of us are

nice_very · 13-02-2012 03:23AM

humberklog wrote: »

And knowing that you still posted here? Hmmmm...poptarts.

yet you keep posting...... QED

humberklog · 13-02-2012 03:29AM

nice_very wrote: »

yet you keep posting...... QED

Yep. Well, 'til now. Bed beckons shortly.

It's not to blow holes in the idea but how you go about it. There are plenty of stories already out there saying (rightly) what you say and very few (if any?) saying that people on the dole are spongers. However: on line it is more common to come across this attitude, it's easy to hide oneself on-line. But on-line's not making the movies (or short docs). My guess (and that's all it is) is that you're reading AH and thinking of a decent rebuttal. But AH isn't the place for it.

cloptrop · 13-02-2012 03:29AM

nice_very wrote: »

yet you keep posting...... QED

What does QED mean.
Man you came in here with a title to a film thats been done a million times. You asked for someone else to make it for you. Why dont you just go and rent one of them films.
I offered you advice on your film , its was in a sarcastic tone I suppose but it was constructive sarcasm , give your charachter some reason for you to feel for him . Make the audience connect sort of ****.
Some nob on the scratcher not getting a reply from cv sending?? Who is going to see that . Honestly who?
Just cause its in black and white doesnt make it art, tbh it just makes it harder to get someone to watch it.
Dont get pissy in after hours because someone made a joke , its what the forums for. maybe you should go to film or something .

short fillum idea..

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