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London mayor dismisses Patrick’s Day event as ‘lefty crap’

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  • #62
    KeithM89_old
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    bwatson wrote: »
    Ummm, What is wrong with it?

    Stop being such a smug, condescending ****.

    It pleases me that your views are the polar opposite of mine on this issue - I remember posts of yours from previous occasions.

    Banned.


  • #63
    The King of Moo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    swimming in a sea wrote: »
    being called it many times, never took it as a racial slur, scots guys would be called jocks and welsh taffs, english limeys or poms depending where you are, in america your more likely to call you a mick....

    so they were racial abusing me, oh my god i feel violated :eek:

    It depends on the intent of the person using the word.
    If someone called me a Paddy in London back in the seventies, and they clearly weren't so happy to see me, I'd know it was meant as a slur.

    Some of the older generation in the U.K would still see it as being a strong insult, though most younger people see it in the way you described, as a light-hearted nickname.

    It depends on who's saying it.

    For example, while I can't speak for him of course, but I think Bwatson from Ballymena might not have been exactly light-hearted in his use of the term.


  • #64
    Latchy
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    Bwatson may have been only lighthearted with his use of the word and I don't think the term 'Paddy' is used as a slur by non Irish people as much as in previous decades ,you'll always have some individuals who might use it but it doesn't hit home now because it's to sterotyped, old school and outdated .


  • #65
    Argent_Dreeson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 ✭Argent_Dreeson


    Oh Borris.

    He got were he is because he appeared on Have I got News For You a few times and people saw him as better then Ken Livingstone. But there are times when I worry....


  • #66
    brummytom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    bwatson wrote: »
    Brummytom described himself as a plastic paddy, which to my understanding is a person not born in Ireland (I presume usually from the US or Britain) who seeks to be as stereotypically Irish as they can in order for others to recognize their genetic heritage.

    A paddy is just a bloke from Ireland I presume.


    I know you're banned, but I just want to clear this up quickly. I didnt't say I was a plastic paddy, I objected to being called one: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=75630774 I just asked what the people of AH thought it meant, I don't class myself as Irish, don't worry.


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  • #67
    policarp
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    brummytom wrote: »
    I know you're banned, but I just want to clear this up quickly. I didnt't say I was a plastic paddy, I objected to being called one: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=75630774 I just asked what the people of AH thought it meant, I don't class myself as Irish, don't worry.

    Plastic Brummy maybe?


  • #68
    brummytom
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    No one would ever pretend to be from Birmingham


  • #69
    policarp
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    brummytom wrote: »
    No one would ever pretend to be from Birmingham

    See you in Derry next year so.. .
    You're a Plastic Brummy. . .


  • #70
    KeithAFC
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    Um, where in that article was Sinn Fein even mentioned? What did they have to do with the dinner? If it was a self-financing event, why do we get the self-serving crap from Johnson's office at the end of the article about "diverting resources to needier causes" ... there were no resources to divert if it was self-financing.
    The Boris Johnson quote.


  • #71
    Dozen Wicked Words
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    brummytom wrote: »
    No one would ever pretend to be from Birmingham
    People from Dudley would probably see it as a step up.


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  • #72
    gosuckonalemon
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 730 ✭✭✭gosuckonalemon


    .


  • #73
    getz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    brummytom wrote: »
    No one would ever pretend to be from Birmingham
    your far more real than a person from london [like boris]


  • #74
    Chinasea
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    he has a point - Irish people think they should be worshipped all over the world on St. P's day. get over yourselves.


  • #75
    Sindri
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    blatantrereg wrote: »
    I'm a protestant

    I'll never read your posts the same way again.
    Chinasea wrote: »
    he has a point - Irish people think they should be worshipped all over the world on St. P's day. get over yourselves.

    Yeah well...Chinese people just invented a whole new calendar so they could celebrate with fireworks...and pretend to be dragons.

    So Chinese people think they should be treated like dragons?

    That might be a cultural shock for them in the West...


  • #76
    Mike 1972
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    Sinn Fein ? Lefty ? LOL


  • #77
    Dudess
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    Chinasea wrote: »
    he has a point - Irish people think they should be worshipped all over the world on St. P's day. get over yourselves.
    Well that isn't actually what he was saying - if you, you know... read the article and thread like.

    What nationality are you btw?


  • #78
    Nodin
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    Latchy wrote: »
    Glad to see that people have pointed out the Sein Fein reference which in the main and Lefty comment aside , was what Boris was refering to .


    ....but some seem to have missed the fact that it was not a Sinn Fein event

    And Christine Quigley, who is a Labour candidate for the upcoming London Assembly elections and originally from Dublin, said the mayor's comments were baseless.
    She said: “Boris’s lazy and stupid remark is utterly factually wrong. The fact is the annual St Patrick's Day event he refers to was a self-financing community event attended by a wide range of Irish actors and politicians from many parties, community figures and celebrities, including Bob Geldof, the Irish Ambassador, Dermot O'Leary, Richard Corrigan, and Pauline McLynn. It did not cost the taxpayer £20,000 and it was not a Sinn Fein event.”

    Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/boris-johnson-calls-london-st-patricks-day-event-lefty-sinn-fein-crap-16116465.html#ixzz1m4o2kfQq


  • #79
    Batsy
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    You can tell when Boris makes a sensible, common-sense comment - as his St Patrick's Day one was - because all the lefty retards come out and accuse him of being retarded.


  • #80
    Batsy
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    Also, it's okay for many Irish people on here to criticise Boris's comments, but you need to look at it from the point of view of the people who live in London.

    Not only does the St Paddy's parade in London cost a bomb, at a time when Britain is suffering economically, but it is only a recently introduced thing. It was introduced by the previous mayor, Red Ken Livingstone, for the purpose of nothing more than to get the Irish vote.

    So, in my view, Boris, again, was spot on.

    Also, I wonder if London would ever stage a St George's Day Parade, or would that not be allowed in case it caused "offence" to minorities?


  • #81
    philologos
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    Indeed, it's a dishonest title. He hasn't objected to the London St Patrick's Day parade or anything of the sort. Just objecting to exclusive dinners with certain members of the Irish community.

    I like Boris, I'll probably give him my vote at the Mayor's election this year.


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  • #82
    Batsy
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    philologos wrote: »
    Indeed, it's a dishonest title. He hasn't objected to the London St Patrick's Day parade or anything of the sort. Just objecting to exclusive dinners with certain members of the Irish community.

    I like Boris, I'll probably give him my vote at the Mayor's election this year.

    I also like the new book he's written about the history of London since it was founded by the Romans in 43AD.

    johnsonlon1_415.jpg


  • #83
    Dudess
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    Batsy wrote: »
    Also, it's okay for many Irish people on here to criticise Boris's comments, but you need to look at it from the point of view of the people who live in London.

    Not only does the St Paddy's parade in London cost a bomb, at a time when Britain is suffering economically, but it is only a recently introduced thing. It was introduced by the previous mayor, Red Ken Livingstone, for the purpose of nothing more than to get the Irish vote.

    So, in my view, Boris, again, was spot on.

    Also, I wonder if London would ever stage a St George's Day Parade, or would that not be allowed in case it caused "offence" to minorities?
    First ever sensible post by you - amazed you didn't use it as an opportunity to push your anti Irish bile. The last bit though is flawed - there is a huge Irish community integral to Britain, not vice versa. I wouldn't be offended but I'd see it as pointless and a waste of money.

    Your post above that though was as stupid as ever. :(

    You should actually read too - he didn't make the comment about St Patrick's day, but about one event planned for it.


  • #84
    The King of Moo
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    Batsy wrote: »
    Also, it's okay for many Irish people on here to criticise Boris's comments, but you need to look at it from the point of view of the people who live in London.

    Not only does the St Paddy's parade in London cost a bomb, at a time when Britain is suffering economically, but it is only a recently introduced thing. It was introduced by the previous mayor, Red Ken Livingstone, for the purpose of nothing more than to get the Irish vote.

    So, in my view, Boris, again, was spot on.

    Also, I wonder if London would ever stage a St George's Day Parade, or would that not be allowed in case it caused "offence" to minorities?

    :eek:

    RE: A St. George's Day Parade; I don't think there's enough interest in one to make it seem like a worthwhile venture, though of course ideally it would be perfectly fine to have a St. George's Day Parade in England.
    Even if enough people wanted one though, I think it would always seem like a risky thing to do out of fear of it being hijacked by far-right EDL types who've pretty much hijacked the English flag.


  • #85
    Happyman42
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    Batsy wrote: »
    Also, it's okay for many Irish people on here to criticise Boris's comments, but you need to look at it from the point of view of the people who live in London.

    Not only does the St Paddy's parade in London cost a bomb, at a time when Britain is suffering economically, but it is only a recently introduced thing. It was introduced by the previous mayor, Red Ken Livingstone, for the purpose of nothing more than to get the Irish vote.

    So, in my view, Boris, again, was spot on.

    Also, I wonder if London would ever stage a St George's Day Parade, or would that not be allowed in case it caused "offence" to minorities?

    A lot of people who live in London would see the maintenance of the monarchy as 'costing a bomb', but have no objections because they have a live and let live philosophy. That is city living in modern democracy's, the Irish have contributed massively to the development of London and have every right to celebrate their national day, did it ever occur to you that K. Livingstone was merely recognising that?
    Boris has always had foot in mouth syndrome. His party and supporters must lie awake nights worrying what he is gonna say next.


  • #86
    philologos
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    Happyman42 wrote: »
    A lot of people who live in London would see the maintenance of the monarchy as 'costing a bomb', but have no objections because they have a live and let live philosophy. That is city living in modern democracy's, the Irish have contributed massively to the development of London and have every right to celebrate their national day, did it ever occur to you that K. Livingstone was merely recognising that?
    Boris has always had foot in mouth syndrome. His party and supporters must lie awake nights worrying what he is gonna say next.

    As for the monarchy, it's up for the people the UK to decide that. I don't think the presence of the St. Patrick's Parade has any direct comparison to the monarchy. Also, it is to do with how the Mayor of London is prioritising finances. It has nothing to do with Westminster. It's important to keep the discussion in perspective.

    He never said anything about the St. Patrick's Day parade, but an exclusive dinner that was held for certain Irish people in London. Which I think he's right to question.


  • #87
    Dudess
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    The King of Moo wrote: »
    RE: A St. George's Day Parade; I don't think there's enough interest in one to make it seem like a worthwhile venture, though of course ideally it would be perfectly fine to have a St. George's Day Parade in England.
    Even if enough people wanted one though, I think it would always seem like a risky thing to do out of fear of it being hijacked by far-right EDL types who've pretty much hijacked the English flag.
    Not Batsy - they're his kindred spirits.


  • #88
    Happyman42
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    philologos wrote: »
    As for the monarchy, it's up for the people the UK to decide that. I don't think the presence of the St. Patrick's Parade has any direct comparison to the monarchy. Also, it is to do with how the Mayor of London is prioritising finances. It has nothing to do with Westminster. It's important to keep the discussion in perspective.

    He never said anything about the St. Patrick's Day parade, but an exclusive dinner that was held for certain Irish people in London. Which I think he's right to question.

    Well, you are either a multicultural society or you are not.
    I was talking about the dinner not the Parade per se, Livingstone had decided to recognise the Irish contribution to the city on their national day. The debate about who should have a right to run London has been decided already in a multicultural way. Why would you be arsed having Irish or Asians or Muslim representation if UK members have a veto? It's not the way it works Boris.


  • #89
    Namlub
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    Batsy wrote: »
    Also, it's okay for many Irish people on here to criticise Boris's comments, but you need to look at it from the point of view of the people who live in London.

    Not only does the St Paddy's parade in London cost a bomb, at a time when Britain is suffering economically, but it is only a recently introduced thing. It was introduced by the previous mayor, Red Ken Livingstone, for the purpose of nothing more than to get the Irish vote.

    So, in my view, Boris, again, was spot on.

    Also, I wonder if London would ever stage a St George's Day Parade, or would that not be allowed in case it caused "offence" to minorities?

    So you didn't actually read the article then? Is it because it wasn't from the Daily Mail?


  • #90
    philologos
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    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Well, you are either a multicultural society or you are not.
    I was talking about the dinner not the Parade per se, Livingstone had decided to recognise the Irish contribution to the city on their national day. The debate about who should have a right to run London has been decided already in a multicultural way. Why would you be arsed having Irish or Asians or Muslim representation if UK members have a veto? It's not the way it works Boris.

    The dinner is ridiculous. It's essentially a dinner for an elite group of Irish people judging from the article. I'd rather that Boris represented Irish people as a whole in London rather than a tiny minority which I doubt represent the interests of common Irish people in London.

    The last worry I have is that Boris doesn't respect Irish people. The city is multicultural precisely because there are many people of many cultures living there. I don't expect the city to pander to demographics. The policy should be simply, that we welcome you, you have your place amongst every other demographic. I don't support special treatment for minorities. The idea that minorities are treated any less favourably in London than British people are is ridiculous also.

    As an Irish person currently living in London, I think Boris has done a good job as mayor, and that's the reason why I would consider voting for him in May.


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  • #91
    Nodin
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    philologos wrote: »
    The dinner is ridiculous. It's essentially a dinner for an elite group of Irish people judging from the article. ...........

    ...though consided of the left, the idea of an "elite group" paying for their own dinner doesn't somehow bother me.


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