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Recording Police Brutality in the US. (Graphic)

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  • #32
    Wompa1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,360 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    joseph brand wrote: »
    A bunch of us had to deal with cops while in America years ago. We had a house party, there were complaints about noise.
    The cops showed up, made us all sit down outside, and when anyone tried to ask them anything they just started shouting and using very threatening behaviour. We weren't some dangerous 'gang' or anything. Just drunken Irish on a J1 visa. They would shout and shout and shout right into our faces! My impression was that they were a bunch of idiots.

    I think they inject testosterone and steroids. Roid rage.

    Sounds good to me. I was in an estate before in which the Gardaí were repeatidly called for noise complaints for the same students and they did nothing about it. Sounds like yee deserved it. Especially when you say Just drunken Irish students to describe yourselves...you were drunk Irish students causing a disturbance to people who most likely live there with their families..have more consideration
    Old Perry wrote: »
    Just studying this sort of behaviour at the moment in college, how good people turn bad?....assuming these cops weren born bad people.

    http://www.ted.com/talks/philip_zimbardo_on_the_psychology_of_evil.html

    Very interesting summary of a book based around an experiment which proposes that this sort of behaviour ( not a get out jail free card) is produced by the environment and the system which allows this sort of power to people. well worth the watch.

    Bit of info, The 'dummy' prisons in the experiment were essentially tortured, humiliated in various different ways by the 'dummy' guards. the guards for all intensive purposes took pleasure in their humiliation, how is this similar to what is posted in the video above?.....He also compares this to the torture which took place in Abu Ghraib around 2003/4 at the hands of the US military.

    Do you study psychology by any chance? If so I call shenanigans on your entire field of study and possible future profession


  • #33
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    MagicSean wrote: »
    It's not part of the job. Garda id and the back page of passport forms are. Nothing else.

    Just to clarify. Gardaí are not obliged to fill out anything because another agency wants it. That is not part of the job and I challenge you to find something which states otherwise.

    There should be civilian clerical staff working in Police stations to carry out this type of work. There are civilian staff working in all sorts of sensitive areas.

    Why is this not the case with our Police?


  • #34
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Rodney King forum
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  • #35
    RustyNut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,427 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    We have the Garda Ombudsman to deal with that, a fully independent organization.
    In the US, at most they have is an internal complaints process. Good luck with that.

    Not that independent now.


  • #36
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    There should be civilian clerical staff working in Police stations to carry out this type of work. There are civilian staff working in all sorts of sensitive areas.

    Why is this not the case with our Police?

    People have always been wary about letting their neighbours know their business in this country. Somehow they feel more comfortable with a Garda handling their info.


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  • #37
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    MagicSean wrote: »
    People have always been wary about letting their neighbours know their business in this country. Somehow they feel more comfortable with a Garda handling their info.

    Civilian staff have to abide by privacy laws AFAIK. It's a joke that Garda time is wasted on filling out forms.


  • #38
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    RustyNut wrote: »
    Not that independent now.

    Is that 2 year old article supposed to support some point. The Ombudsman have their own power to refer stuff to the dpp.


  • #39
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    Civilian staff have to abide by privacy laws AFAIK. It's a joke that Garda time is wasted on filling out forms.

    I agree with you completely. It's a matter of perception. People, especialy the older folks feel much more comfortable dealing with the uniform. It's what the reserve should be used for.


  • #40
    Pacifist Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Pacifist Pigeon


    Apparently there's quite a large Irish American influence in the police over there. No wonder.


  • #41
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    Pacifist Pigeon wrote: »
    Apparently there's quite a large Irish American influence in the police over there. No wonder.

    Only in some areas like Boston and New York.


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  • #42
    RustyNut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,427 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    MagicSean wrote: »
    Is that 2 year old article supposed to support some point. The Ombudsman have their own power to refer stuff to the dpp.

    The point I supose is that the Garda Ombudsman can carry out an "independent" investigation into an issue, find that a Garda breached regulations and recommend that the Garda in question should be disciplined. The recomendations are then rejected by a college of the Garda in question.

    What is the point of an "independent" investigation into a breach of regulations when the outcome is decided by one of your colleges.

    It's a bit like a Garda presenting a case against someone with rock solid evidence but the jury are all the accused's friends.


  • #43
    firefly08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭firefly08


    Only in some areas like Boston and New York.

    They only have disproportionate levels of police brutality in some areas too. And NY happens to be top of the list.


  • #44
    firefly08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭firefly08


    What I'm waiting for is a personal video recorder that will just stream video to the web. Some cops will and have attempted to destroy evidence before. Like in the Miami shooting.

    You can do this with your phone already afaik - there are websites out there that let you stream video directly. You would just want to have it set up in advance so it's ready to go.

    Update: here you go.


  • #45
    token101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭token101


    MagicSean wrote: »
    They are doing you a favour.

    No they f***ing well are not doing you a favour. That's their job as public servants. Any cop who won't sign a form for you simply because he's not obliged to is an arrogant piece of **** and has no place in the public service.


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