Settle the debate-McDonalds or Burger King

Biggins wrote: »

Burger King if I was badly stuck. McDees - NEVER!

Can You Guess What McDonald’s Food Item This Is?

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/682/chipperk.jpg

Say hello to mechanically separated chicken. It’s what all fast-food chicken is made – things like chicken nuggets and patties. In addition, the processed frozen chicken in the stores is made from it. Basically, the entire chicken is smashed and pressed through a sieve — bones, eyes, guts, and all. It comes out looking like this. There’s more: because it’s crawling with bacteria, it will be washed with ammonia, soaked in it, actually. Then, because it tastes gross, it will be reflavored artificially. Finally, since it is weirdly pink, it will be dyed with artificial color. People still eat this and feed it to their children!

Enjoy your next McDees chicken meal.

100 per cent chicken breast.

You have said your McNuggets are minced chicken breast and marinade. What is in said marinade, and what is the ratio (in grams) of chicken to marinade?
A.
The Chicken McNuggets contain 45 per cent chicken breast meat (the balance of the McNugget being the coating). The marinade used in the nuggets contains water, natural flavourings, potassium chloride, potato starch and vegetable oil and is about 18% of the uncooked nugget.

gosuckonalemon wrote: »

Eggonyerface wrote: »

Are a chickens eyes and beak located in the breast?

:rolleyes:
http://www.mcdonalds.ie/our-food/chicken.aspx


Also from FAQ on same site:

Well if it's on the McD website it has to be true! :rolleyes:

Biggins wrote: »

Eggonyerface wrote: »

Are a chickens eyes and beak located in the breast?

:rolleyes:
http://www.mcdonalds.ie/our-food/chicken.aspx


Also from FAQ on same site:

They put all they can through a mincer.

The (Huffintonpost) story has been amended to reflect that although (1) mass produced chicken nuggets at large may contain mechanically separated chicken, McDonald's famous McNuggets no longer do contain "mechanically separated poultry as defined by the federal government. The USDA now requires foods with mechanically separated poultry to be labeled (2) as containing "mechanically separated chicken or turkey" in their ingredients lists.

Additionally, although "mechanically separated meat" may apply to turkey, chicken and pork, due to concerns over BSE, the federal government has held since 2004 that mechanically separated beef "is considered inedible and is prohibited for use as human food."

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(1) They have been ordered to cut down the pink stuff in some areas but they even in the USA might be trying to find ways around a ruling
(2) We don't have those regulations so they can still shovel this stuff on the public here.

Other reference points:
* http://www.fsis.usda.gov/factsheets/hot_dogs/index.asp (at the bottom)
* http://sides.tmtm.com/mclib.html

when McDonalds' "expert witness" Verner Wheelock was asked to defend the company's description of its food as "nutritious", the consultant defined the word as meaning "has nutrients". When confronted with the term "junk food" he said that it was "whatever a person doesn't like" (in his case semolina). Dr Tim Lobstein, co-director of The Food Commission, gave evidence for the defence, stating that McDonalds' line that their food "can be used as part of a balanced diet" was meaningless and that you could eat a roll of sellotape as part of a balanced diet!

* http://juliahavey.com/2011/05/20/mcdonalds-chooses-fries-and-lies-over-ethics/
* http://area148.com/cms/?p=10440

Representatives of the Consumer Rights Protection Society claim that concealing the content of products the company violates the status of the retail outlet of finished products,not to mention the fact that it misleads consumers. According to experts, the range of milkshakes,which the chain sells,can not be referred to as “milk” under the Russian law,Adindex.ru reports.

Experts discovered the fat of vegetable origin in McDonald’s “milkshakes.”This drink,according to experts at the Institute of Laboratory of Nutrition,can be called “milk-containing” but not “milk”. The advocates of consumers rights do not demand any fines from McDonald’s. They only say the company should disclose information and redesign the product packaging. However, even this measure will entail multi-million costs for McDonald’s once the court upholds it.

If anyone is crazy enough to McDonalds don't lie, they are being very foolhardy to say the least.

Want a dose of chemicals? http://www.msgexposed.com/boat-loads-of-msg-in-mcdonalds-food-are-you-lovin-it/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKSoiDtdi9s

Biggins wrote: »

Eggonyerface wrote: »

I don't understand,your post basicly says mc donalds don't use this process any more??
The rest of your post is fairly unrelated, and im on my phone at the moment so I can't look at your links, but things are different in the states, their attitude to dairy is completely different to ours. Msg is in a lot of things too, I'm just not so sure why you put bk and others in such high regard to maccers. I've a funny feeling irish ones are better then American ones too.
I'm going to find out for sure tomorrow about beaks and eyes, this being my major concern

You clearly have misunderstood my post.

1. They were told off by USA food bodies in relation to a number of areas, not all others where they still use this minced stuff - even in the states.
My post does not say anywhere "mc donalds don't use this process any more". Please don't try putting words in my mouth.

2. The other point you clearly missed is that we don't even have the few food regulations that the states has in regards to this stuff being given to customers.

3. I never said I put BK in high regard.

4. Just tonight on Operation Transformation, our Health Minister said that certain chains were not willing (I paraphrase) to play ball with his department and do a number of things they has asked them to do as regards fast food menus/food.
He said he's willing to give them till the end of the year to let them get their act together - and if they don't after that, he will publicly name and shame the big offenders as well as bring in further laws in relation to the stuff we are eating.

As McDees has previously not being willing to be compliant with state requests, I suspect they are one of a few that is opposing change - naturally which they don't like.
Just one example link: http://juliahavey.com/2011/05/20/mcdonalds-chooses-fries-and-lies-over-ethics/


O' and you right about MSG, to further quote from a previous link (http://www.msgexposed.com):

-~- What is MSG? -~-

In basic terms, MSG (and other, similar agents) pierces the blood-brain barrier and over-stimulates the neurons of a brain to a deadly degree. Habitual intake among animal experiments has shown the development of tumors, memory loss, and a whole host of neurodegenerative diseases as the end result of excess excitotoxin intake, including Alzhiemer’s, Parkenson’s, Lou Gerhig’s etc.

Walk into any gas station in the United States (or grocery store, for that matter) and, upon close investigation, you will find that 75%-90% of the available food has been ‘enhanced’ to some degree by excitotoxins. The chemical agents are often disguised by such ambiguous terms as ‘spice’ and ‘natural flavors’ or, my personal favorite, ‘hydrolyzed vegetable protein.’ A consumer society must have consumer slaves to keep it functioning; MSG is the crack cocaine of the food industry…and it is legally perpetuated by slush-fund advocates and a pork-glutted FDA. As proven again and again, money talks...

-Excerpt from ‘Excitotoxins – The Taste That Kills’ By Dr. Russell L Blaylock, MD
(A board certified neurosurgeon with over 25 years experience in neurosurgery in addition to having a nutritional practice.)