If you drink alcohol, yet you are against other drugs...

jimpump · 08-02-2012 02:46AM

Jagle wrote: »

man are you stupid?
drink and fags arnt drugs

Not sure if serious???

Doc · 08-02-2012 02:47AM

TiltedBrain wrote: »

I can guarantee booze is far more dangerous then Cannabis

No you can't. You may be able to guarantee that people who drink over the recomended daly alowance of alcohol can be at a far greater risk but not if they dont.

Dudess · 08-02-2012 02:47AM

If you regularly get pissed drunk yet condemn people who occasionally take narcotics, yes you're a hypocrite IMO.

As for the ethics angle: there are numerous industries - e.g. coffee, tea, chocolate, soft drinks, clothing, footwear - where abuse is rife.

The legal angle? Fair enough, but I still don't see a cause for someone who gets pissed often being influenced by this. Simply not taking narcotics would suffice IMO.

Yakult · 08-02-2012 02:49AM

Relevant

jimpump · 08-02-2012 02:49AM

Naomi00 wrote: »

That made me lol. :P

put down that vodka and red bull and pick up a book

educate yourself

Doc · 08-02-2012 02:50AM

jimpump wrote: »

and probably got you on a floppy

Nope not once yet thank god. The comment was only meant as a joke though.

Temptamperu · 08-02-2012 02:50AM

But herion is just so deliciously moreish. :pac:

Jagle · 08-02-2012 02:51AM

3units a day, or a pint and a half is the recommended dasily intake for males in this country..
promise you no one ever has that little, having a few pints in the pub with the lads will intake more, and bottom line people dont follow these limits.

http://www.saferchoice.org/content/view/24/53/

both graphs in these article just show how dangerous drink is

Naomi00 · 08-02-2012 02:52AM

Kids in Italy and France drink a small amount of wine with their lunch/dinner regularly, obviously that is not 'more dangerous' than cannabis or any other illegal drug which would obviously not be given to them as they are dangerous.

end of pointless thread?

RichieC · 08-02-2012 02:52AM

Naomi00 wrote: »

Temptamperu wrote: »

So can weed and cocaine can be used in dentistry, also there are studies that mdma can help with parkinsons cancer and MS.
All alcohol can do is clean a wound.

Guinness is rich in iron, they used to give out free pints to people after donating blood.

It has some iron. Certainly not rich in it.

Jagle · 08-02-2012 02:52AM

jimpump wrote: »

Not sure if serious???

defo not serious.

but often the argument you hear from the great ignorant populace

jimpump · 08-02-2012 02:53AM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

If you abuse alcohol and are against people taking other drugs, you're a hypocrite.
If you like a few pints at the weekend and look down on someone who likes to have a few joints instead, you're a hypocrite.
If you like a few pints at the weekend but disagree with a highly addictive drug like heroin, you're probably just a sensible person.

what about a few smokes of heroin the odd time?

i guarantee its just as safe as a few pints the odd time as well

everything in moderation

Yakult · 08-02-2012 02:54AM

Naomi00 wrote: »

Kids in Italy and France drink a small amount of wine with their lunch/dinner regularly, obviously that is not 'more dangerous' than cannabis or any other illegal drug which would obviously not be given to them as they are dangerous.

end of pointless thread?

End of pointless posts instead maybe?

Naomi00 · 08-02-2012 02:55AM

jimpump wrote: »

what about a few smokes of heroin the odd time?

i guarantee its just as safe as a few pints the odd time as well

everything in moderation

Yeah I'm sure the junkies at the Luas stations in Dublin will totally agree with you..

Role model material and all that.

Naomi00 · 08-02-2012 02:55AM

Yakult wrote: »

End of pointless posts instead maybe?

What the OP's?

:pac: heh heh

Jagle · 08-02-2012 02:56AM

jimpump wrote: »

what about a few smokes of heroin the odd time?

i guarantee its just as safe as a few pints the odd time as well

everything in moderation

really this argument? you cant compare cannabis to alcohol, you can compare alcohol to heroin tho, as its abuse you cant deny over the past generations of our people, and worldwide alcohol and tobacco kills more people then hitler ever did.

but hey dont wanna offend your ignorant opinion, id say you would be surprised how many people you interact with daily smoke weed

mikom · 08-02-2012 02:56AM

Naomi00 wrote: »

Kids in Italy and France drink a small amount of wine with their lunch/dinner regularly, obviously that is not 'more dangerous' than cannabis or any other illegal drug which would obviously not be given to them as they are dangerous.

end of pointless thread?

Shur Jaysus himself drank it............

Jagle wrote: »

? you cant compare cannabis to alcohol, you can compare alcohol tho,

*Brain explodes*

Naomi00 · 08-02-2012 02:57AM

Jagle wrote: »

really this argument? you cant compare cannabis to alcohol, you can compare alcohol tho, as its abuse you cant deny over the past generations of our people, and worldwide alcohol and tobacco kills more people then hitler ever did.

but hey dont wanna offend your ignorant opinion, id say you would be surprised how many people you interact with daily smoke weed

I think they were actually being serious... :eek:

Sindri · 08-02-2012 02:57AM

What about methylated spirits.

It cannot be bought off the street any more, it causes blindness and madness but up to a few years ago it was able to be bought in pharmacies rather easily.

Should that be legal?

Or a highly addictive substance which can cause death?

Or acetone, lets all drink that.

Or uranium, that should be legal.

Yakult · 08-02-2012 02:57AM

Jagle wrote: »

but often the argument you hear from the great ignorant populace

Due to being misinformed *Cough* news article not so long ago *cough*

Temptamperu · 08-02-2012 02:57AM

mikom wrote: »

Shur Jaysus himself drank it............

made it himself too, copyright infringer he was.

many · 08-02-2012 02:58AM

I would tend to agree with you, but I don't think hypocrite is the right word.

I think it's more due to the fact that certain substances are allowed in our society and others are illegal, I think that is why people view cannabis in a harsher light than tobacco.

paddyandy · 08-02-2012 02:58AM

We look for the little good in evil and magnify it and then call it good in it's entirety .

kumate_champ07 · 08-02-2012 02:58AM

Doc wrote: »

I think you may be mixing up use and abuse. Just because I have a glass of wine at dinner but am against cannabis,cocaine,heroin use I am the biggest hypocrites there is? Grow up.

not all drug users binge, some do them in moderation, just like a glass of wine every evening

SteelyDanJalapeno · 08-02-2012 02:59AM

Doc wrote: »

No you can't. You may be able to guarantee that people who drink over the recomended daly alowance of alcohol can be at a far greater risk but not if they dont.

:rolleyes:
http://alcoholireland.ie/alcohol-facts/

just pulled the very 1st stat I saw there from the pile, 10% liver cancer in males, 3.33% in Females.

Cannabis,

here's a few state funded studies which resulted in no increase in cancer of the patients over a lengthy period

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1360-0443.2002.00003.x/full

jimpump · 08-02-2012 02:59AM

Naomi00 wrote: »

Yeah I'm sure the junkies at the Luas stations in Dublin will totally agree with you..

Role model material and all that.

most of them are off their head on legal tablets called zimovanes

h

jimpump · 08-02-2012 03:00AM

Naomi00 wrote: »

What the OP's?

:pac: heh heh

think that was meant for u

Jagle · 08-02-2012 03:02AM

Yakult wrote: »

Due to being misinformed *Cough* news article not so long ago *cough*

oh youtalking about the article in the irish times a few saturdays ago?

PLEEEASE what a load of scaremongering nonsense,

Subject 1. female i think if i remember right talked about buying 4 50bags of weed a week. now any decent smoker would realise that for 200 a week, you can get 10grams of weed(going by the standard bad drug dealer bags of 2.5grams for 50, should be 3.3) would buy an Oz for 350(28.34 grams) first issue.
second the being paranoid, i dont agree with anyone who has a prior mental illness smoking a psychoactive chemical, just as anyone with liver problems shouldnt drink, but no study has yet to take into account if the person had the ability to develop mental problems later in life that ive come across if you know any please share. and keeping something illegal makes a user have some level of paranoia as they are doing something that can get the busted, the going buying the drugs, driving with it in your car and such makes people nervous knowing that its an offense. cant remeber the rest of the nonsense if i can dig it out i will

kumate_champ07 · 08-02-2012 03:02AM

Two big glasses of wine a day triples cancer risk

REGULARLY drinking two large glasses of wine or two strong pints of beer a day triples the risk of developing mouth cancer, research has shown.
The findings came as it emerged that cancer was responsible for almost half of all deaths in Ireland last year.
Health experts recommend that men should not regularly drink more than three to four units a day, while women should not regularly drink more than two to three per day.
And drinkers are being advised to cut down by having alcohol-free days, not drinking at home before going out, swapping to low or alcohol-free drinks and using smaller glasses in a bid to cut the risks.
The survey of more than 2,000 drinkers in Britain found that 85pc did not realise that drinking more than the recommended limits increased the risk of developing breast cancer.

more here:
http://www.independent.ie/health/health-news/two-big-glasses-of-wine-a-day-triples-cancer-risk-3010673.html

Naomi00 · 08-02-2012 03:02AM

jimpump wrote: »

think that was meant for u

I don't think you get it..

If you drink alcohol, yet you are against other drugs...

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