Noel Gallagher speaks on UK's kids work ethic

mikemac1 · 05-02-2012 06:16PM

Wasn't there some quote from Socrates or some ancient Greek giving out the next generation were messers and feckless.

It's nothing new.

Sure my dad walked four miles to school, uphill both ways

Every generation thinks the next crowd are useless and spoilt

HavingCrack · 05-02-2012 06:20PM

Dana Tangy Eggshell wrote: »

I believe it. I'm a teacher and most of my students are 16-22. I've never met such a bunch of boring, unimaginative, immature people. I teach foreign students and most of them are very wealthy, so perhaps that has something to do with it, but pretty sure it's also a generation thing.

They just have absolutely no common sense or drive and expect everything to be done for them. I walked into class the other day to find them all sitting in silence in the dark - apparently turning the light on was beyond them and actually practising their English by having a conversation - forget it. I regularly have students who turn up for my 9am class having had 2 hours sleep, without a pen or paper who then complain that they're bored/not learning, as if it's my fault. I have to confiscate phones because they can't ignore the constant vibration in their pockets and they just have to reply to some banal text message immediately. I'll have 2 students working together doing a dialogue and one will be texting on their phone, leaving the other one sitting there. It's just a lack of respect and basic manners. It boils down to a me, me, me attitude. I don't remember anyone being that rude when I was at university. There are exceptions of course, but on the whole, the younger students seem almost soulless. No social skills, no concept of how to behave in a class. It's as if they can't function unless they're hiding behind an iPad screen. It's really sad.

They wouldn't be Middle Eastern students by any chance? I have a lot of dealings with mega wealthy Saudis and Kuwaitis and find them to be some of the rudest people in the world.

Leo Dowling · 05-02-2012 06:30PM

Seems to be very fashionable to talk about how great Thatcher was lately. People really do have short memories.

44leto · 05-02-2012 06:34PM

Leo Dowling wrote: »

Seems to be very fashionable to talk about how great Thatcher was lately. People really do have short memories.

She put the great back into Great Britain, she had her failings but she did arrest a declining Britain, it really was her or the IMF.

I would be one of her admirers she was definitely one of the most interesting politicians we have seen in years.

05-02-2012 06:39PM

HavingCrack wrote: »

They wouldn't be Middle Eastern students by any chance? I have a lot of dealings with mega wealthy Saudis and Kuwaitis and find them to be some of the rudest people in the world.

Nope, most of the incredibly rude ones are Turkish and then a mix of nationalities. The Saudis and Kuwaitis tend to be alright.

Eric Cartman · 05-02-2012 06:55PM

students think they can walk out of college and get a good job these days, being on the dole is joked about and is a lifestyle choice now. A good kick back into a decent work ethic and looking down on social welfare claimants is what Ireland really needs to get back on track.

c_man · 05-02-2012 06:58PM

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Maybe Noel should have made this point to Blair when he attended the Cool Britannia party at 10 Downing Street:

Wasn't that pretty much a few days after he was elected. Do you expect Noel to see into the future?

Defiler Of The Coffin · 05-02-2012 07:10PM

‘Last August I was on tour in Europe and people were asking me about the riots. All over the world, Syria and Egypt, people were rioting for freedom. And these kids in England are rioting for tracksuits. It’s embarrassing.’

Well said Chief

stovelid · 05-02-2012 07:11PM

Didn't read the interview but those quotes don't really suggest a support for Thatcher. Reads more like a general rant on the youth of today: par for the course from a tetchy forty something

ItsAWindUp · 05-02-2012 07:19PM

Did he not spend years on the dole, spending his cash on recreational drug use?

Temaz · 05-02-2012 07:21PM

Noel Gallagher has clarified comments he made about former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher in a Sunday tabloid published today (February 5).

The High Flying Birds man took to his blog at NoelGallagher.com to explain he was "outraged" that the Mail On Sunday had implied he was of the opinion that "the years spent under the rule of that soon to be dead granny, Maggie Thatcher, was good for the soul."

However, he clarified the comments in his blog, stating: "I've read the story and I must say it's very misleading; any great working class art, fashion, youth culture etc came to be IN SPITE of that woman and her warped right wing views and NOT BECAUSE of them."

Gallagher concluded: "Also for the record, on the day that she dies we will party like it's 1989. Just so you know."

http://www.nme.com/news/noel-gallagher/61846

John Doe1 · 05-02-2012 07:35PM

Noel gallagher is a great man and a great role model for working class males. He is intelligent, forthright and verry verry funny:D

Captain Darling · 05-02-2012 07:42PM

Noel Gallagher is full of sh1t.

HavingCrack · 05-02-2012 07:46PM

John Doe1 wrote: »

Noel gallagher is a great man and a great role model for working class males. He is intelligent, forthright and verry verry funny:D

Am I the only one who thinks this idea of making 'celebrities' role models just plain strange?

He's a man who wrote some songs and made some money because of it. There's nothing wrong with what he did but it's hardly like he's Gandhi or Nelson Mandela.

AngeGal · 06-02-2012 12:03AM

Ellis Dee wrote: »

Noel Gallagher - now there's someone that would serve as a role model for everyone. Look how well he's handled his own personal relationships, and just wonder how his own kids will turn out - even with all the money he'll probably be able to give them. Pity Thatcher is gaga. I'm sure it would give her great comfort in her final days before she gasps her last vile breath to know that Noel Gallagher has endorsed her. And he's not even in his dotage yet. I think.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

From Wikipedia:

"Relationships

At the age of 18, Gallagher became engaged to his then-girlfriend Diane, but they never married and eventually separated. In 1988, he moved out of his family home to live with Louise Jones, whom he described as his "soulmate" and for whom he wrote "Slide Away". They had an on-again, off-again relationship before finally separating in June 1994, with Gallagher stating, "I don’t think I’ll ever get over it."

In June 1997, Gallagher married Meg Mathews in Las Vegas, Nevada. He'd met her in 1994 through her roommate, MTV presenter Rebecca de Ruvo, whom he was dating at the time and whom he left for Mathews. Mathews gave birth to a daughter, Anaïs Gallagher, on 27 January 2000. Gallagher and Mathews divorced in January 2001 on grounds of his adultery with Scottish publicist Sara MacDonald. After the divorce was finalised, Gallagher claimed he had only admitted to cheating in order to speed up the divorce process and that he had never actually been unfaithful.

Since his separation from Mathews, Gallagher has been in a relationship with MacDonald, whom he met at club Space on Ibiza in June 2000. He wrote "Waiting for the Rapture" about their meeting. They have two sons, Donovan Rory MacDonald Gallagher (born 22 September 2007) and Sonny Patrick MacDonald Gallagher (born 1 October 2010). Gallagher and MacDonald were married on 18 June 2011 in a private ceremony at the Lime Wood Hotel in the New Forest National Park."

The problem with the Noel Gallaghers of this world is that they are too full of themselves - and of shit. They are a bit like Own Arse in politics, sliding right across the spectrum from Sticky to Fianna Gael and always damning those who don't slide with them.:eek:

I don't know anything about him but that seems a rather silly reason to dislike him. Basically he did something a bit mad in getting engaged at 18, had a four year marriage and is currently married to his partner of over ten years. Hardly that bad!

TeddyTedson · 06-02-2012 12:13AM

eh.....
This is from Cigarettes and Alcohol

Is it worth the aggravation
To find yourself a job when there's nothing worth working for?

Written by Noel Gallagher

Defiler Of The Coffin · 06-02-2012 12:17AM

TeddyTedson wrote: »

eh.....
This is from Cigarettes and Alcohol

Written by Noel Gallagher

Not a man for social commentary then are you?

Irish Guitarist · 06-02-2012 12:21AM

I recall Noel Gallagher once reminiscing in an interview about how he used to commit burglary in his youth.

TeddyTedson · 06-02-2012 02:36AM

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

Not a man for social commentary then are you?

Elaborate...

InkSlinger67 · 06-02-2012 02:40AM

As much as I appreciate Noel's work, I think it's a worse indictment of Irish culture that we can play snap with a statement he made about English kids.

Go team UK & Ireland

mikom · 06-02-2012 02:58AM

‘Last August I was on tour in Europe and people were asking me about the riots. All over the world, Syria and Egypt, people were rioting for freedom. And these kids in England are rioting for tracksuits. It’s embarrassing.’

Yeah Noel.
Should have been.....

‘Last August I was on tour in Europe and people were asking me about the evolution of music in the UK. All over the world, people were creating new music. And my band are back in England churning out shite the Beatles and the stones probably wrote on a matchbook once then threw away. It’s embarrassing.’

A working class hero is something to be............. Granddad.

Fourteen · 06-02-2012 03:10AM

mikom wrote: »

Yeah Noel.
Should have been.....

A working class hero is something to be............. Granddad.

*cringe*

EdenHazard · 06-02-2012 03:10AM

InkSlinger67 wrote: »

As much as I appreciate Noel's work, I think it's a worse indictment of Irish culture that we can play snap with a statement he made about English kids.

Go team UK & Ireland

And most of western Europe

LH Pathe · 06-02-2012 03:11AM

And eastern...

And if arab spring means adidas stripes ahoy; let's not go there

InkSlinger67 · 06-02-2012 04:18AM

EdenHazard wrote: »

And most of western Europe

meh!

Crazy Horse 6 · 06-02-2012 09:34AM

Lol. Noel Gallagher would'nt know a hard days work if it punched him in the face.

Littlehorny · 06-02-2012 09:50AM

Crazy Horse 6 wrote: »

Lol. Noel Gallagher would'nt know a hard days work if it punched him in the face.

Yeah, its easy call the youth of today useless, when your sitting in your mansion in the English countryside with 83 million in the bank.
Far play to him for making his money but don't try to tell me he's a hard grafter!

walrusgumble · 06-02-2012 11:22AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Noel was quite workshy in his youth himself. In the book their brother Paul wrote he says the two boys were as a lazy as sin on the building sites they worked on with their dad. Noel would sit in a hut and write songs all day, while the other fella would head off home to bed without telling anyone.

Let's not forget the songs that he praised about the virtues of being lazy.

Also, listen to the beginning of Cigarettes and Alcohol.

Temaz · 06-02-2012 11:33AM

Noel posted this on his blog.

Well not a great deal going on. Nothing to report and normally I would wait until something happened before I mithered you but someone has just made me aware of a headline they came across on this here internet. Now 99 times out of 100 I wouldn't bother with such nonsense but I feel outraged, so for the record...

There is a headline that implies that I am of the opinion that the years spent under the rule of that soon to be dead granny, Maggie Thatcher, was good for the soul. I've read the story and I must say it's very misleading; any great working class art, fashion, youth culture etc came to be IN SPITE of that woman and her warped right wing views and NOT BECAUSE of them. Also for the record, on the day that she dies we will party like it's 1989. Just so you know.

ONWARDS

.

Pacifist Pigeon · 06-02-2012 11:39AM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Until they closed the mines and ran their countries manufacturing industry into the ground.

Wasn't it the Labour government at the end of the 70s that did that. Don't forget the massive inflation and the IMF that they hailed with them.

Noel Gallagher speaks on UK's kids work ethic

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