Ruairi Quinn - internet is now one of two major threats to the media

skelliser · 03-02-2012 02:27PM #1

“its inhabitants are unaccountable and live in cyberspace. . . a playground for anonymous back-stabbers

“The internet is now one of two major threats to the media, especially and essentially newspapers. Should all citizens worry about this? Would it really matter if the traditional press were to collapse under the strain, would the gap be filled by online media or social media? . .

“I personally think it would matter very much. I say this in spite of the shortcomings in the traditional media. Some of these have been dramatically exposed in the Leveson inquiry in Britain.”

Mr Quinn said the strengths of traditional media were its “high degree of reliability, accuracy, authority and a willingness to accommodate different points of view”.

Mr Quinn also said he would like to see “a discussion about how the powers of the Press Council and Press Ombudsman might be strengthened” and “how their remit be extended to cover online media”.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/0203/1224311177168.html

All this in the week the Irish Independent messed up a translation of a Polish womens interview which verges on incitement to hatred.
And it took people on the internet to spot this!!

Not to mention the Independent, amongst others triumphantly pushing the property boom at every opportunity.

Also Sean Sherlock, also of Labour is determined to sign a SI to the alarm of internet rights groups and the delight of the music industry.

It seems that Labour dont like a medium in which people can express and share their opinions to a wide audience.

What is it with Labour and free speech?!!

TeddyTedson · 03-02-2012 02:30PM

I don't live in Cyber Space, I live in town!

smash · 03-02-2012 02:30PM

Dear Ruairi,

The internet is media... it's new media you f*cking tool, traditional press has been dying for 10 years now.

Regards,
Someone with some cop on

chin_grin · 03-02-2012 02:34PM

smash wrote: »

Dear Ruairi,

The internet is media... it's new media you f*cking tool, traditional press has been dying for 10 years now.

Regards,
Someone with some cop on

Please please PLEASE send this via snail or email to him!

biko · 03-02-2012 02:35PM

The internet is better than the media!

Dyr · 03-02-2012 02:36PM

In my own estimation the bould ruari is a top grade bollix. Must be awful to a man/bollix like him to know that there is media out there that arent controlled through your oul' journo cronies.

eth0 · 03-02-2012 02:36PM

Ruari Quinn: A forward-thinking modern Atheist.

44leto · 03-02-2012 02:37PM

I kind of agree with him, the internet is killing the print news and magazine media and I do not believe the online media is up to the mark of a good newspaper or magazine. But off course there is crap newspapers and magazines as well, which to be honest have a greater circulation.

One of the worlds leading Newspapers the New York Times is in serious trouble and it may not last much longer, I think we would miss these institutions when they eventually keel under the pressure of the internet.

skelliser · 03-02-2012 02:37PM

Bambi wrote: »

In my own estimation the bould ruari is a top grade bollix. Must be awful to a man/bollix like him to know that there is media out there that arent controlled through your oul' journo cronies.

this is how i interpet his remarks.

He doesnt like an unregulated internet.

smash · 03-02-2012 02:37PM

chin_grin wrote: »

Please please PLEASE send this via snail or email to him!

I'm sure if I sent him an email he'd set his computer on fire with the terror of it.

dlofnep · 03-02-2012 02:38PM

eth0 wrote: »

Ruari Quinn: A forward-thinking modern Atheist.

What has his religious (or lack of) views got to do with this? I'm an atheist, and I think he's a fúck-tard.

DrumSteve · 03-02-2012 02:41PM

Ugh, this gives me a headache.

Ruairi, if your reading this: Stick your newspapers up your bollix.

smash · 03-02-2012 02:42PM

44leto wrote: »

One of the worlds leading Newspapers the New York Times is in serious trouble and it may not last much longer

The New York Times are the most innovative of the lot of them, they have a top class, award winning mobile/tablet website that made history recently by avoiding the app stores through creating a real proper web app where you get the latest news on the go at your finger tips.

mikemac1 · 03-02-2012 02:42PM

Mr Quinn said the strengths of traditional media were its “high degree of reliability, accuracy, authority and a willingness to accommodate different points of view”.

Bwah ha ha ha

Indo?
Sindo?
Sunday World?
Evening Herald?
Irish Daily Mail?

The rags outnumber the good papers in Ireland

Sunday World do a great sports section, I'll give them that

Logical Fallacy · 03-02-2012 02:43PM

“high degree of reliability, accuracy, authority and a willingness to accommodate different points of view”

lol.

_feedback_ · 03-02-2012 02:44PM

Media? MEDIA?

I AM the media!

I OWN the BBC!

*jumps out window.

blue5000 · 03-02-2012 02:45PM

chin_grin wrote: »

Please please PLEASE send this via snail or email to him!

minister@education.gov.ie

have fun spamming him up with new media rubbish

eth0 · 03-02-2012 02:46PM

dlofnep wrote: »

What has his religious (or lack of) views got to do with this? I'm an atheist, and I think he's a fúck-tard.

I'm sure it earned him quite a few votes from a certain demographic that would very much disagree with this latest tripe and just like with Sean Sherlock I'm surprised he did. You'd expect some ould FF cabog to come out with this but not really anyone else

There will always be a demand for good journalism and people are willing to pay for it. All of the 'free' online stuff is funded on ad revenue which won't last forever either.

Temptamperu · 03-02-2012 02:46PM

hes an old man concerned about new technology, and he probably has his fingers in some of those old pies too.

Logical Fallacy · 03-02-2012 02:49PM

Temptamperu wrote: »

hes an old man concerned about new technology, and he probably has his fingers in some of those old pies too.

It is odd that he is having a reaction like this to new media shortly after the old media took his party colleague Jimmy Harte for a walk by the nose recently.

44leto · 03-02-2012 02:54PM

smash wrote: »

The New York Times are the most innovative of the lot of them, they have a top class, award winning mobile/tablet website that made history recently by avoiding the app stores through creating a real proper web app where you get the latest news on the go at your finger tips.

Is it free???just asking

I recently seen a documentary about the NYT " Page one inside the New york Times", I thought it was very good, it was a doco about the shrinking of this once great institution, but it was the internet that was killing it.

But these are the times, new technology has always killed old industry, but its not that the public has a lesser appetite for news its just we get it for free.

dlofnep · 03-02-2012 02:56PM

eth0 wrote: »

I'm sure it earned him quite a few votes from a certain demographic that would very much disagree with this latest tripe and just like with Sean Sherlock I'm surprised he did.

Er, that wasn't your intent. So perhaps you'd care to expand a bit more on why you felt the need to have a go at atheists?

03-02-2012 02:58PM

Sent him this email, will expand on it and send another later on but have to type on my phone atm.

Dear Mr. Quinn,

it was with great amusement I read your comments regarding the threat the Internet is to the media. I am wondering if you are aware of the fact that the internet is in fact media and is commonly referred to as new media. The traditional press has been slowly dieing over the past decade and standards have dropped considerably.

To quote your own words, you stated that one of traditional medias merits was a “high degree of reliability, accuracy, authority and a willingness to accommodate different points of view”.

Funny you should say as such, especially considering the Magda article published in the Irish Independent earlier this week which is a fine example of the high degree of "reliability" and "accuracy" to be found in traditiional media.

Ironically enough it those "unaccountable anonymous back-stabbers" who "live in cyberspace" that pointed out the inaccuracies in the article. Had it not been for the Internet, there is a good chance that the article could have incited hate related crimes, the national media were up in arms with national radio stations dedicating hours of discussion to it.

The Internet seems to be something of an issue with Labour. Between Sean Sherlock's draconian legislation which sets out to limit the freedom of speech offered by the Internet in a bid to appease big business and your comments published today one could see a clear agenda on Labours part to serious limit peoples access to the Internet and with it free speech.

Yours,

Dublin_Gunner · 03-02-2012 02:58PM

chin_grin wrote: »

Please please PLEASE send this via snail or email to him!

It should be in a letter to the indo IMO.

Temptamperu · 03-02-2012 03:01PM

44leto wrote: »

Is it free???just asking

I recently seen a documentary about the NYT " Page one inside the New york Times", I thought it was very good, it was a doco about the shrinking of this once great institution, but it was the internet that was killing it.

But these are the times, new technology has always killed old industry, but its not that the public has a lesser appetite for news its just we get it for free.

Its not just we get it free, we also get it in a timely fashion, todays news today instead of tomorrow morning.

megaten · 03-02-2012 03:02PM

Guess I'm not voting labour anymore then.

smash · 03-02-2012 03:03PM

44leto wrote: »

Is it free???just asking

Yep

44leto wrote: »

I recently seen a documentary about the NYT " Page one inside the New york Times", I thought it was very good, it was a doco about the shrinking of this once great institution, but it was the internet that was killing it.

But these are the times, new technology has always killed old industry, but its not that the public has a lesser appetite for news its just we get it for free.

They'll easily make their money from banner advertising etc.

mikemac1 · 03-02-2012 03:06PM

Al Gore invented the internet :cool:

Ruarí Quinn just can't compare to that politician

foxyboxer · 03-02-2012 03:06PM

Dear Minister Quinn,

PFO

Sincerely,

Me

tricky D · 03-02-2012 03:12PM

50 years ago: The media is the message
Today: the masses are the media

and politicians are still stupid

Volovo · 03-02-2012 03:14PM

I think the best source of all news/media is through the internet. The traditional media outlets just have to adapt to the changing world, get online and develop a decent user interface that people will want to use. Boo Labour

Ruairi Quinn - internet is now one of two major threats to the media

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