SW payments for commuions-WHY

StephenHendry · 02-02-2012 01:15PM

Ridiculous waste of money, the suits that are going to be only used for one. i know its a family occasion etc. etc. but still the kids are too young to understand whats going on anway.

giles lynchwood · 02-02-2012 01:15PM

Why can't they call to all their relatives to collect the commuion money before the ceremony and use that to buy the outfit.

Duiske · 02-02-2012 01:17PM

TheZohan wrote: »

It should be mandatory for kids to make their communion and confirmation in school uniform.

Agree 100%.

El Weirdo · 02-02-2012 01:18PM

Deleted User wrote: »

€242 for a communion dress :eek:

That's fucking ridiculous. Especially when you can get a very good one online for about €30

greimorm · 02-02-2012 01:20PM

bluewolf wrote: »

Well no, it won't always be, because they're slashing it. Hopefully down to 0 eventually.

Well yes it has and always will be and no amount of the catholic bashing mob is going to change that.

elviscostello wrote: »

Your signature could do with an oul crop there.

Communions are a ridiculously OTT these days.

Arent they? People arriving in limos and helicopters,someone should have that banned altogether.Its sickening how some parents have set the bar like that crappy sweet 16 **** on tv.

StephenHendry wrote: »

Ridiculous waste of money, the suits that are going to be only used for one. i know its a family occasion etc. etc. but still the kids are too young to understand whats going on anway.

I understood perfectly what happened on my day,was one of the nicest days of my life and one of the special ones.
They should however keep the dress and pass it on to their next daughter if they have one and if they dont pass to family member or friend and same goes for suit.
Personally if i had a daughter or son doing communion i wouldn't take from the state for it,but thats my own personal feeling on it.I don't judge those who need it and do get it.

dsmythy · 02-02-2012 01:20PM

Communions are like debs down my way. It's supposed to be a modest religious event. Either have a modest religious event or don't be involved at all.

Is there payments for confirmations, christenings, sweet 16s?

Guy:Incognito · 02-02-2012 01:20PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

So that impoverished kids don't have to suffer the embarassment of looking like dicks on communion day.

Why not give a few grand for holidays so they dont have the embarassment of going back to school without a story of their great summer? Bring back the extra week at christmas and give 2 more aswell so the get presents that are up to scratch. If people are being paid to keep their kids in a certain social group then its going to cost a lot more. These are unessecary payments.

I'm on the dole btw and have a son making his communion next year.

stupidusername · 02-02-2012 01:22PM

Why is this even a topic? Surely there can't be anybody on boards that would actually agree with this payment for communion clothes? right?

Gyalist · 02-02-2012 01:22PM

greimorm wrote: »

Ah this is old news.
So state shouldn't be paying fund's for the Muslims practicing their religious days and funding their food etc.. or to keep their religious schools open either then? Or Jewish?
And yes i did go there.:D

I'd like to see your evidence that the State makes a contribution towards Muslims and Jews religious days.

02-02-2012 01:22PM

greimorm wrote: »

Well yes it has and always will be and no amount of the catholic bashing mob is going to change that.

On what basis do you think it "always will be funded" given the article stating that it is being slashed and restricted?
I don't give a flying fcuk what religion you are, tbh, the state has no place funding religious rituals like this

Bannasidhe · 02-02-2012 01:26PM

TheZohan wrote: »

It should be mandatory for kids to make their communion and confirmation in school uniform.

My nieces made their communions in Switzerland - in the hyper Catholic canton of Valais - but the rule there is school uniform covered with a plain white robe - rather like the ones gospel choirs wear or academic robes. No meringue dresses, no fake tans, no trashy bling.
All the kids wear the exact same and the school organises it.

I see no reason the same couldn't be done here...

Meauldsegosha · 02-02-2012 01:26PM

greimorm wrote: »

Rubbish its a special day and tradition is white dress and suit or type of suit for said day and always will be.

It isn't the tradition to get false tan, false nails, eyelashes, hair and makeup done at a cost of €150-€200. But that's what people are spending now.

I agree with others on here let them make it in their uniforms or with a robe over their clothes as I've seen in some schools.

Son Of A Vidic · 02-02-2012 01:27PM

DB21 wrote: »

SW AND religion bashing?!?! This is like a religious holiday in Winter for After Hours!

And it's genuinely justified for once.

TheZohanS · 02-02-2012 01:28PM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

My nieces made their communions in Switzerland - in the hyper Catholic canton of Valais - but the rule there is school uniform covered with a plain white robe - rather like the ones gospel choirs wear or academic robes. No meringue dresses, no fake tans, no trashy bling.
All the kids wear the exact same and the school organises it.

I see no reason the same couldn't be done here...

That sounds reasonable. I believe certain schools in Ireland do the same thing for confirmation.

ejmaztec · 02-02-2012 01:33PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Why not give a few grand for holidays so they dont have the embarassment of going back to school without a story of their great summer? Bring back the extra week at christmas and give 2 more aswell so the get presents that are up to scratch. If people are being paid to keep their kids in a certain social group then its going to cost a lot more. These are unessecary payments.

I'm on the dole btw and have a son making his communion next year.

There are probably more kids making communion than there are having holidays, so it's comparatively easy not to feel embarrassed about not having a holiday.

It's a different thing altogether to be under the spotlight on communion day, especially with the whole class in attendance.

I blame the greedy bastards who have turned a simple affair into a money-spinner for some local kids clothing shops, and whoever else gets a cut of the proceedings. Without these feckers on the scene, a communion day wouldn't cost an arm and a leg and be treated like a royal wedding.

greimorm · 02-02-2012 01:33PM

TishyO wrote: »

It isn't the tradition to get false tan, false nails, eyelashes, hair and makeup done at a cost of €150-€200. But that's what people are spending now.

I agree with others on here let them make it in their uniforms or with a robe over their clothes as I've seen in some schools.

That goes without saying about false nails etc.. They should ban it in the schools no make up no false tan and no helicopters or limos etc..
But white dress and suit or nice new clothes for the boys are a tradition in itself and i do believe you and your siblings got to partake in such a thing as did your parents before you.

Freddie59 · 02-02-2012 01:35PM

KTRIC wrote: »

My tax Euro's are paying for kiddies to get dolled up so they can be felt up by priests. F*cking marvellous !!! :mad:

Yeah they do that on the Altar. FFS.:mad: That type of hysterical comment is nothing short of ridiculous, and typifies the bandwagon jumping by some posters. Is it any different to some of the other stuff that SW pay for?

Gyalist · 02-02-2012 01:35PM

stupidusername wrote: »

Why is this even a topic? Surely there can't be anybody on boards that would actually agree with this payment for communion clothes? right?

I'm more surprised that more people haven't heard of this before. I became aware that the CWO was funding Communion clothing back in the late 80's and assumed that it was common knowledge.

Captain_Generic · 02-02-2012 01:37PM

I wouldn't have had a problem with this if the state hadn't refused to fund my jedi training

Arnold Layne · 02-02-2012 01:39PM

Because Mammy & Daddy Long Term Doler need extra money to go on the piss for that special day. Its either that or they use their rent allowance for the extara booze.

TheZohanS · 02-02-2012 01:42PM

greimorm wrote: »

That goes without saying about false nails etc.. They should ban it in the schools no make up no false tan and no helicopters or limos etc..
But white dress and suit or nice new clothes for the boys are a tradition in itself and i do believe you and your siblings got to partake in such a thing as did your parents before you.

Drink driving was a tradition in this country a few years ago too, times change and traditions die out.

up for anything · 02-02-2012 01:47PM

Blazer wrote: »

You see...it's shít like this that should be cut asap.
I've a mate on social and he's off the cigarettes and getting the nicorette inhalers on his medical card and it's saving him about €50 a week..So not only is he saving on cigarettes but also on the cure...it's fúckin ridiculous and these kind of payouts need to stop asap.
God knows how much money is being wasted on crap like this..:mad:

You can't have your cake and eat it too. Spending all his dole money on cigarettes.. food stamps...blah blah blah...

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Schools uniforms exist for this reason, just have the church get the kids to do it in their uniforms.

TheZohan wrote: »

It should be mandatory for kids to make their communion and confirmation in school uniform.

Just wanted to point out that there are some schools that don't have a school uniform.

Captain_Generic · 02-02-2012 01:48PM

Fuck this religion shit, I got a 3210 for my confirmation. Best. Day. Ever.

Also saw this on wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Communion

Some Anglicans allow infant communion (also called 'paedo-communion')

heh

Capt'n Midnight · 02-02-2012 01:51PM

greimorm wrote: »

You can never ever take the day of white dress and feeling special for a little girl and boys in their special clothes for that special day.

Dont you remember what it was like to wear your little white dress and feel Beautiful Cap,n Midnight

At that age it was more about the communion money :pac:

There is special, and there is people getting leather jackets and bridezilla stuff, which becomes the focus of the day.

It's supposed to be a religious event, instead it's like Christmas more a celebration of commercialism.

suicide_circus · 02-02-2012 01:55PM

People who shell out loads on an ostentatious communion for their child are the same cretinous low-lifes who have big fat vulgar weddings and debs, spending cash they dont have to show off to their fellow proles.

Guy:Incognito · 02-02-2012 02:08PM

who what when wrote: »

Well a few years ago we had this thing called the celtic tiger where our goverment had so much money they pretty much had to come up with ways in which to spend it in order to get votes at election time.

This communion payment is an example of one of these!

According to the RTE news just now, the guidlines have remained unchanged since 1995

slarkin123 · 02-02-2012 02:12PM

I put my kids into an Irish catholic school. It was the Irish part that was important to me. My daughter made her communion 2 years ago and the school gave out letters automatically to claim that benefit. Myself and another parent were the only ones in the class to hand it back saying we didn't want a grant. I don't believe in throwing a huge party for the event. Instead we visited 4 relatives (only because it was expected) then we brought the kids to a nice hotel for dinner. It cost me about a grand to clothe everyone but i paid for it myself. If it were up to me the kids would make it in their school uniforms. I've got another communion this year and will be doing it exactly the same way.

Freddie59 · 02-02-2012 02:14PM

slarkin123 wrote: »

I put my kids into an Irish catholic school. It was the Irish part that was important to me. My daughter made her communion 2 years ago and the school gave out letters automatically to claim that benefit. Myself and another parent were the only ones in the class to hand it back saying we didn't want a grant. I don't believe in throwing a huge party for the event. Instead we visited 4 relatives (only because it was expected) then we brought the kids to a nice hotel for dinner. It cost me about a grand to clothe everyone but i paid for it myself. If it were up to me the kids would make it in their school uniforms. I've got another communion this year and will be doing it exactly the same way.

Very sensible. As some other posters have pointed out it should be kept simple. School uniform, etc. The day is turned into a carnival event by people trying to outdo each other, with the core message lost. Sadly.

Bannasidhe · 02-02-2012 02:15PM

Joan Burton just on RTE justifying these payments.

Bannasidhe · 02-02-2012 02:16PM

up for anything wrote: »

Just wanted to point out that there are some schools that don't have a school uniform.

Doesn't mean they still can't wear a white robe...

SW payments for commuions-WHY

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