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SW payments for commuions-WHY

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Cos if they don't make their Communion THEY'LL GO TO HELL!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭who what when


    Well a few years ago we had this thing called the celtic tiger where our goverment had so much money they pretty much had to come up with ways in which to spend it in order to get votes at election time.

    This communion payment is an example of one of these!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 653 ✭✭✭girl in the striped socks


    Chantelle is entitled to a nice Communion day too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Another welfare thread, imagine that...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,346 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    My tax Euro's are paying for kiddies to get dolled up so they can be felt up by priests. F*cking marvellous !!! :mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,540 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    You see...it's shít like this that should be cut asap.
    I've a mate on social and he's off the cigarettes and getting the nicorette inhalers on his medical card and it's saving him about €50 a week..So not only is he saving on cigarettes but also on the cure...it's fúckin ridiculous and these kind of payouts need to stop asap.
    God knows how much money is being wasted on crap like this..:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    lazygal wrote: »
    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/struggling-families-communion-payment-slashed-182303.html

    wtf is this nonsense? Payment for families for commions? Why should the taxpayer pay for this kind of non-essential spending?

    So that impoverished kids don't have to suffer the embarassment of looking like dicks on communion day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭working fool


    smash wrote: »
    Cos if they don't make their Communion THEY'LL GO TO HELL!!!!!

    Ad if they are going anyway
    At least they'll have a nice limo and fake tan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭GetWithIt


    Why not?

    I'm pretty sure that was the logic Bertie used in all areas of his financial management of the Irish state


  • Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    €242 for a communion dress :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,257 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    The church should pay


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,346 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    Rabies wrote: »
    The church should pay

    Do you really want your 8 year old making his/her communion in a swim suit ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Rabies wrote: »
    The church should pay

    Paying for stuff is against their religion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee


    This kind of payment is beyond sick, even allowing for the fact that so much taxpayers' money is wasted in any case.:mad:

    Our Constitution actually states quite clearly that the State shall not endow any religion, but these payments amount to an indirect subsidy to the kiddy-fiddler church, making it possible for unfortunate children, who do not know any better,to be further locked into the religious system, with the taxpayer helping to foot the bill. If the church wants the sprogs togged out nicely on the big day, they should ask the Protector of Paedophiles Everywhere to send a big fat cheque from Rome.:rolleyes:

    I know the payments are only meant for families experiencing hardship, but it would be better to give them extra grants for footwear, warm clothes or something they actually need.:)

    It also sucks that these payments go to families belonging to only one religious denomination. Just imagine the squeals of anguish we'd hear from our resident xenophobes if someone suggested the SW pay grants to help Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs or indeed pagans or atheists arrange some kind of rite of passage for their sprogs.:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    KTRIC wrote: »
    Do you really want your 8 year old making his/her communion in a swim suit ??

    Or even their birthday suit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    My Big Fat Catholic Communion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭saa


    Parents who choose to put their child through this know for years its coming up, put a little aside for clothes and if needs be get a small amount such as 50 euro that will cover quite a bit of the outfit. It's not like needing a suit for a funeral, you know its coming up.

    I still feel its your choice not an essential and as a child who didn't have money for nice shoes or a dress it wouldn't have been a problem if the photos we didn't have to go into school the next day in the outfits, state and the education system shouldn't be closely connected with this religious ceremony.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭fishy fishy


    its not for the communion - its for the after party in the marquee. :D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭greimorm


    Ah this is old news.
    So state shouldn't be paying fund's for the Muslims practicing their religious days and funding their food etc.. or to keep their religious schools open either then? Or Jewish?
    And yes i did go there.:D

    What you should be bitching about is the ones who get helicopters and limos and the ones who use only part of the money for the child's day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,710 ✭✭✭Balmed Out


    I dont have a problem paying for a reasonable communion dress for an impoverished kd.
    I do have a problem with paying for their sky tv or the parents who claim this benefit and whos children dont actually turn up to the communion.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,589 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    exceptional needs payments (ENPs).

    ENPs are meant to be once-off or exceptional need funds for people on social welfare.
    It's just down to showing off.

    Schools uniforms exist for this reason, just have the church get the kids to do it in their uniforms.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭greimorm


    Balmed Out wrote: »
    I dont have a problem paying for a reasonable communion dress for an impoverished kd.
    I do have a problem with paying for their sky tv or the parents who claim this benefit and whos children dont actually turn up to the communion.

    I agree +1

    Sure there is ones from all walks of community who pretend child is actually doing it and arent,or give them hand me down dresses and use the money for themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭greimorm


    It's just down to showing off.

    Schools uniforms exist for this reason, just have the church get the kids to do it in their uniforms.


    You can never ever take the day of white dress and feeling special for a little girl and boys in their special clothes for that special day.

    Dont you remember what it was like to wear your little white dress and feel Beautiful Cap,n Midnight :)


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Chana Better Rucksack


    it's a religious ritual and should absolutely not be funded by the state whatsoever

    if parents are that mad into it they will save up a couple euro here and there for it, end of


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    It should be mandatory for kids to make their communion and confirmation in school uniform.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭greimorm


    bluewolf wrote: »
    it's a religious ritual and should absolutely not be funded by the state whatsoever

    if parents are that mad into it they will save up a couple euro here and there for it, end of

    It always has and always will be so get over it.Other wise they take funds away from every other Religious practice in Ireland end of story.
    So whine about that along with this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭greimorm


    TheZohan wrote: »
    It should be mandatory for kids to make their communion and confirmation in school uniform.

    Rubbish its a special day and tradition is white dress and suit or type of suit for said day and always will be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭DB21


    SW AND religion bashing?!?! This is like a religious holiday in Winter for After Hours!


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Chana Better Rucksack


    greimorm wrote: »
    It always has and always will be so get over it.Other wise they take funds away from every other Religious practice in Ireland end of story.
    So whine about that along with this.

    Well no, it won't always be, because they're slashing it. Hopefully down to 0 eventually.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,274 ✭✭✭_feedback_


    DB21 wrote: »
    SW AND religion bashing?!?! This is like a religious holiday in Winter for After Hours!

    Your signature could do with an oul crop there.

    Communions are a ridiculously OTT these days.


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