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Guns n Roses - The O2, Dublin
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Guys, let's be realistic about what happened at the last gig. A plastic bottle was lobbed on stage, then sometime later a plastic cup... Neither hit anyone and if they did they would be little more than irritating...
Thats not the point, and you're factually incorrect too. Look at the video below. Lots of liquid being lobbed up there. Theres a guy on stage with a towel trying to mop up the beer/water at 1 min 22.
****ing idiots throwing stuff at him. And listen to how aggressive people are - shouting at Axl etc. Because he was late?!
Embarrassing.
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The temporary part time MCD staff? ....Those guys told you to leave?
But nobody was told officially...
Wow The Nal, I didn't realise you knew the employment backrounds of the various O2 Staff I spoke to that night before leaving (you must have been situated near me, know what I look like & have seen everyone I spoke with ?) as directed by people wearing O2 uniforms, whom I must have wrongly presumed were officially & formally working for / employed by the O2/MCD that night & wrongly assumed I was being given such instruction by those in an offically employed by the venue/promoter capacity.
Not sure I would have provoked the right type of reaction had I told any of the O2 staff that night that I wasn't moving because they were temporary part time staff. Bit rude that actually don't you think ? There's a possibility that some of them were not temp part time staff ? Maybe ? I don't know for a fact they were or weren't but I'm guessing you don't for sure either.
Believe it or not - I like GnR but I wasn't happy about how the whole evening /night was managed initially by the O2 Staff (temporary or not) & then how badly it was handled by MCD afterwards in the following days.
Axl could have probably 'fixed' a lot of the crowd mood that night by acknowledging the situation about him being so late to stage, maybe even saying 'sorry guys' & got the crowd onside but he just seemed to either be naively oblivious to the mood for him being so late or just intentionally didn't care & wanted to try brush it aside. People were right to be dissatisfied with him (note I did not say had a right to throw projectiles at him though
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I feel sorry for the other musicians in the band who obviously try hard & work hard at their craft to be caught up in such events because of someone with a volatile personality like Axl.
I would have happily bought a ticket & gone along to this upcoming gig, had they just got on with it at the last gig here & had Axl been less of a 'Diva' causing all the commotion by coming on so late. I'm not going this time because of the lack of respect I was shown as a paying punter / fan by Axl the last time & because of how I was treated by MCD when I tried to get my refund.
Like I said previously - I really do hope its a super gig & that anyone that buys a ticket really enjoys their night with GnR etc.. But I won't be giving GnR or MCD any of my 'hard earned' this time around....:)0 -
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Thats not the point, and you're factually incorrect too. Look at the video below. Lots of liquid being lobbed up there. Theres a guy on stage with a towel trying to mop up the beer/water at 1 min 22.
****ing idiots throwing stuff at him. And listen to how aggressive people are - shouting at Axl etc. Because he was late?!
Embarrassing.
If bands can survive rain at a festival e.g When i was watching The Strokes at Oxegen last year for most of their set is was pouring down rain. And you can see all the water coming on the stage and yet they kept playing0 -
Wow The Nal, I didn't realise you knew the employment backrounds of the various O2 Staff I spoke to that night before leaving (you must have been situated near me, know what I look like & have seen everyone I spoke with ?)
You're quite a striking looking man, in a good way! Hard to miss mate.Not sure I would have provoked the right type of reaction had I told any of the O2 staff that night that I wasn't moving because they were temporary part time staff. Bit rude that actually don't you think ?
No, not if you had a ticket in your hand. They're rude asking you to leave.
Probably all of the above. And thats 100% to be expected from him. He would never say sorry, not in a million years. Hes a headcase. Can you really imagine Axl coming on stage and saying "really sorry guys"?Axl could have probably 'fixed' a lot of the crowd mood that night by acknowledging the situation about him being so late to stage, maybe even saying 'sorry guys' & got the crowd onside but he just seemed to either be naively oblivious to the mood for him being so late or just intentionally didn't care & wanted to try brush it aside.
Agree. But people moaning that he left the stage after he was pelted? Thats like waving a red flag at a bull and then complaining you got charged! Or accusing Roy Keane of faking injury and then being surprised when he throws a wobbler.People were right to be dissatisfied with him (note I did not say had a right to throw projectiles at him though).
I feel sorry for the other musicians in the band who obviously try hard & work hard at their craft to be caught up in such events because of someone with a volatile personality like Axl.
I feel sorry for them because they got pelted. I dont feel sorry for them other than that. They've never had a gig thats paid better than GnR. We all work with dickheads. And Axl is certainly a world class dickhead.I would have happily bought a ticket & gone along to this upcoming gig, had they just got on with it at the last gig here & had Axl been less of a 'Diva' causing all the commotion by coming on so late. I'm not going this time because of the lack of respect I was shown as a paying punter / fan by Axl the last time & because of how I was treated by MCD when I tried to get my refund.
Like I said previously - I really do hope its a super gig & that anyone that buys a ticket really enjoys their night with GnR etc.. But I won't be giving GnR or MCD any of my 'hard earned' this time around....:)
I'm not going either. But thats not to say I didnt enjoy the last gig or that this one wont be good.
People know now. They should have known what would happen in 2010. Thats the main point. How people expected him to be on time is beyond me. It was widely reported that he was late on for most gigs on that tour, they were two hours late on in Slane in 1992 and didn't get bottled etc.
If people are happy to cough up 70 quid and do no research then they get what they deserve as far as I'm concerned. The same people wouldn't go see a movie or eat in a restaurant without reading about it first.
People saw a standard GnR gig. Axl late on and then storming off stage when the crowd act up. Its been that way since 1986. But us, the special, spoiled, Celtic Tiger babies, deserve a refund and try to justify our disgraceful behaviour and act like this GnR gig was particularly bad and was an exception?Furious-Red wrote: »If bands can survive rain at a festival e.g When i was watching The Strokes at Oxegen last year for most of their set is was pouring down rain. And you can see all the water coming on the stage and yet they kept playing
Thats an absolutely moronic post. On a couple of levels. The main point being that festival PAs are set up for all weather purposes, and even that doesn't mean they're 100% immune. Ive seen stages, well covered stages, being closed due to rain, sink in the mud etc. The O2 is an indoor venue so they're not set up to deal with rain and wind, obviously.
You also seem to think he should've just got on with it despite the fact the stage was becoming a dangerous place to stand/run/sing.0 -
Staggering naivety on here from some people. Do you really think hes coming back to "make amends" for the last time? Hes been involved in multiple riots since the 1980s, stadiums (a lot bigger than the O2) getting trashed due to his bahviour, fans stabbed, police cars getting turned over, thousands tear gassed, fights with promoters, fans and paparazzi etc. Do you think he even remembers the gig in 2010 with that level of clarity?!
Or is it more likely that MCD are pushing the "make amends" card as a promotional tool so people will buy the tickets?
Honestly lads....
Well put - I'd agree 100% with what you've said there...
MCD Propaganda - I couldn't imagine Axl 'giving a crap' about what went down in the O2 in 2010 (except maybe (if at all) on the night)...
I'd question him having the storage capacity in his brain at this stage to try remember all the things / events he's due to make ammends for over the years 0 -
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You're quite a striking looking man, in a good way! Hard to miss mate.
I keep tellin' the missus this very same thing but she's havin' none of it..Can you really imagine Axl coming on stage and saying "really sorry guys"?
Wishful thinking alrightPeople know now. They should have known what would happen in 2010. Thats the main point. How people expected him to be on time is beyond me. It was widely reported that he was late on for most gigs on that tour, they were two hours late on in Slane in 1992 and didn't get bottled etc..
Ok - I admit I should have listened more attentatively to the missus on that one - she did mention something like this in passing coversation pre ticket purchase
What annoyed me was that I was prepared to tolerate Axl's late arrival - I was there to see the band & hear the music afterall so at that stage I was glad he'd eventually hit the stage... even so late. But I was 'peed off' when he did walk off (not condoning him being pelted with anything) as I was directed towards the exit - wasn't really asked about it. They told me the gig was over & I was directed outside. Even though I wasn't forcibly removed, it didn't seem like a casual question about whether or not I'd like to consider leaving - I was directed out towards the exit - loads of people were in the section I was in. I got no joy from MCD on looking for the refund afterwards - gave up after a few weeks of trying to get one on & off etc..
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Thats not the point, and you're factually incorrect too. Look at the video below. Lots of liquid being lobbed up there. Theres a guy on stage with a towel trying to mop up the beer/water at 1 min 22.
****ing idiots throwing stuff at him. And listen to how aggressive people are - shouting at Axl etc. Because he was late?!
Embarrassing.
I love it... he starts the gig by declaring "WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE..... YOU GONNA DIE" and ends up pleading with the crowd to control themselves and have fun in a controlled and proper fashion.
Don't fund this cr@p there's plenty of better bands out there.0 -
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This was the opener on the night and I cannot wait to hear it again.0 -
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There isn't a chance in hell that it will be the original line-up. The ticket price alone should tell you that.
Anyone that buys a ticket on the basis that it might be the original GNR is frankly an idiot.
Really don't understand people sometimes. 30 seconds of googling and you'll see that Slash has a new record coming out and is touring and that and Loaded, Duffs band, are actually supporting GnR on this tour. Also, GnR are playing club dates all next week as a warm up for the tour, with the current line up.
So no. The original GnR are clearly not getting back together. Although Duff will most likely come on and play a song or two with them.
You're right though. People will turn up at this gig expecting to see Slash. They did at the last one. People around me: "I really thought Slash would be here". 0 -
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