Apples chinese work policy

Yahew · 27-01-2012 11:33AM

cloptrop wrote: »

Thats a post from a man with a sore bum from sleeping out all night for an ipad

:rolleyes: This is a man without an argument. I dont have an iPad, or an iPhone ( for now).

Time to end this thread. OP is a troll.

danniemcq · 27-01-2012 11:33AM

Auvers wrote: »

how long until the thread get derailed by fanboys with the iPhone\Android bullsh1t?

i'm thinking in and around now and i'm probably not helping either sorry

Back on Topic .... Ah i got nothing

Yahew · 27-01-2012 11:36AM

danniemcq wrote: »

oh yes i've seen people queue for hours after xbox said they were releasing the exact same xbox 360 but with a bigger hardrive.

every company and product will have its fanboys who will go vrazy and queue for hours but apple seem to be able to manage it with f*ck all.

was the minor change to the iphone 4 to iphone 4s (siri) really worst the panic and chaos around it? especially seeing as it worked on older versions till apple stopped it saying other versions weren't powerful enough but people have hacked it to make it work)

they either have the smartest ad/PR guys in the world or the dumbest repeat customers in the world

The new phone had twice the processor speed. It wasnt Siri. ( siri is software, the phone is hardware). When the xBox 720 comes out next year with less difference than the iPhone 4-4S upgrade the nerds will be really out in force.

I can also link to pictures of people queing to get sony playstations and Windows 97. People queue to get stuff. One of the reasons to do it in China, is to make money on the secondary market. Only a tiny percentage of people queue of all the buyers of the product.

As expected this thread is an Apple bashing thread. I am up for that.

Yahew · 27-01-2012 11:37AM

OSI wrote: »

Almost everyone I know that got the 4S, upgraded from a 3G or 3GS.

Thats true too.

cloptrop · 27-01-2012 11:53AM

Yahew wrote: »

:rolleyes: This is a man without an argument. I dont have an iPad, or an iPhone ( for now).

Time to end this thread. OP is a troll.

If you dont like the thread there is an unsubscribe button

No need to start hurling abuse.

Wibbs · 27-01-2012 12:06PM

mikemac1 wrote: »

Why do Apple get singled out for using Foxconn but never Samsung, Dell, HP and others?

For the same reason that some out there absolutely hate apple software and hardware until someone else copies/rips them off/is concurrently inspired, then what the other companies do is brilliant. It was ever so. Hell I'm old enough to remember some commentators calling the Apple GUI OS a kids OS and that DOS was sooo much better, designed for "real work". I guarantee they're all using GUI's today(with some getting hardons from fiddling with the command line in Linux to take up the slack). Same with touchscreen phones and online app stores. Apple does it = Baaaad, anyone else does the same thing, even if it's twitchy = Brilliant.

cloptrop · 27-01-2012 12:18PM

OSI wrote: »

OP, you still haven't stated whether or not you have any products used by many of the other companies that avail of the services of Foxconn. Do you not feel they should be questioned to? Why single out Apple (who as has already been said, is the only company that has gone out of it's way to improve the standards of Foxconn employees that build it's products, which is far from it's responsibility).

I have a nokia phone , i wasnt aware they used foxconn , i will try to get a more fair trade phone te next one I get. These people do however know apple use these practices and yet still buy their stuff.

minidazzler · 27-01-2012 12:21PM

cloptrop wrote: »

OSI wrote: »

OP, you still haven't stated whether or not you have any products used by many of the other companies that avail of the services of Foxconn. Do you not feel they should be questioned to? Why single out Apple (who as has already been said, is the only company that has gone out of it's way to improve the standards of Foxconn employees that build it's products, which is far from it's responsibility).

I have a nokia phone , i wasnt aware they used foxconn , i will try to get a more fair trade phone te next one I get. These people do however know apple use these practices and yet still buy their stuff.

How is it not fair trade? They get paid a fair amount compared to the economy they live in. And room and board. They may not have the luxuries we have but we are overly babied.

krudler · 27-01-2012 12:21PM

ah the apple v everything else argument, I changed to a macbook last year and doubt I'll ever go back to windows, my last laptop had so many issues, chrome has crashed on my macbook once on me, starts up in an instant, shuts down in about 3 seconds, everything just...works.

Auvers · 27-01-2012 12:23PM

Wibbs wrote: »

For the same reason that some out there absolutely hate apple software and hardware until someone else copies/rips them off/is concurrently inspired,.

come on Apple aren't that innocent starting with the Xerox PARC

and as for Jobs being this great "inventor" what a load of BS, a great PR\Marketing man but inventor I don't think so

Mr Benevolent · 27-01-2012 12:28PM

Wibbs wrote: »

For the same reason that some out there absolutely hate apple software and hardware until someone else copies/rips them off/is concurrently inspired, then what the other companies do is brilliant. It was ever so. Hell I'm old enough to remember some commentators calling the Apple GUI OS a kids OS

Apple have ripped off designs and interfaces everywhere. They're far from innocent. Personally I used to hate them until I saw the screen resolution firsthand. Amazing stuff.

Auvers · 27-01-2012 12:35PM

Confab wrote: »

Apple have ripped off designs and interfaces everywhere. They're far from innocent. Personally I used to hate them until I saw the screen resolution firsthand. Amazing stuff.

LCD screens manufactured by LG\Philips\Samsung which you can buy in another case for half the money

Mr Benevolent · 27-01-2012 12:38PM

Auvers wrote: »

LCD screens manufactured by LG\Philips\Samsung which you can buy in another case for half the money

I don't have an iPhone, can't be arsed spending the money.

Gophur · 27-01-2012 12:39PM

cloptrop wrote: »

How come all these do gooder tree huggers still get apple stuff, even though they sub out their work to unscrupuous employers that make all their staff kill themselves.
Is the Ipad really that awesome.
Whats the difference between apple and all the other smartphones?
Slave labour.

Do you have an apple product and just not care about the chinese fella working 24 hour shifts with no chair etc etc , or do you feel bad for him but apple products are just so awesome your willing to overlook that little fact.
Does owning apple stuff now make you a heartless tosser?

Absolute hogwash.:D

Auvers · 27-01-2012 12:41PM

Confab wrote: »

I don't have an iPhone, can't be arsed spending the money.

me or you?

If your asking me

I had a iPhone 1/3gs/4

but I have moved to Samsung Galaxy s2 as its simply a better spec cheaper phone, I don't go for fanboy items, just the best bang for your buck at the time

mikemac1 · 27-01-2012 12:48PM

OSI wrote: »

The NY Times did a great piece on why the likes of the iPhone are made in China as opposed to the US..

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/business/apple-america-and-a-squeezed-middle-class.html?pagewanted=all

Very interesting article
That was a great read

Gophur · 27-01-2012 01:01PM

Auvers wrote: »

.............
but I have moved to Samsung Galaxy s2 as its simply a better spec cheaper phone, I don't go for fanboy items, just the best bang for your buck at the time

Ah, the Galaxy, the phone that's a copy of the iPhone.

Are you satisfied SAMSUNG are a more ethical company than APPLE?

If only you knew?

Auvers · 27-01-2012 01:10PM

Gophur wrote: »

Ah, the Galaxy, the phone that's a copy of the iPhone.

Are you satisfied SAMSUNG are a more ethical company than APPLE?

If only you knew?

Knew what Obi-Wan

where did I say I gave a sh1t about Apples ethics

nor do I give a flying sh1t about product copying

I just care about value for money and face it Samsung and the Android OS is kicking the arse off Apple at the moment

Wibbs · 27-01-2012 01:16PM

Auvers wrote: »

come on Apple aren't that innocent starting with the Xerox PARC

You do realise they weren't the only ones who walked through the PARC facility and that they paid licences to use some of the PARC stuff. Secondly, try using the Xerox GUI. Very different to the first MacOS. They most definitely improved on what Xerox had done.

and as for Jobs being this great "inventor" what a load of BS, a great PR\Marketing man but inventor I don't think so

Oh I'd agree. Not an inventor, I would say a very innovative man who often spotted trends way before others and often started them and knew how to mix technologies in interesting and novel ways. They were certainly better at doing that as a company than the majority of the other main manufacturers out there. A brand new PC laptop, looks much more like a 10 year old Apple laptop than the other way around. Even something as simple a design as the palmrests on laptops was an Apple innovation.

Auvers · 27-01-2012 01:23PM

Wibbs wrote: »

You do realise they weren't the only ones who walked through the PARC facility and that they paid licences to use some of the PARC stuff. Secondly, try using the Xerox GUI. Very different to the first MacOS. They most definitely improved on what Xerox had done.

indeed I was just using it a basic example as Apple aren't these innovation geniuses they have been made out to be in the media and by fanboys

I love they style of Apples products just not the locked down nature and price

TPD · 27-01-2012 02:08PM

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but I'm pretty sure the rate of suicide in the Foxconn plant is lower than that of China as a whole. Something like 17 out of 400,000 workers at foxconn in the past 5 years, versus 23 out of every 100,000 annually for the whole of China. Those figures are just quoted from memory though.

AeoNGriM · 27-01-2012 02:47PM

OSI wrote: »

And nobody does this for the latest, XBox, Playstation, Nintendo whatever, the latest game etc?

These people are saps too, what's your point?

RichieC · 27-01-2012 03:03PM

I like trees but never owned an Apple product.

Gophur · 27-01-2012 03:07PM

Auvers wrote: »

Knew what Obi-Wan

where did I say I gave a sh1t about Apples ethics nor do I give a flying sh1t about product copying

I just care about value for money and face it Samsung and the Android OS is kicking the arse off Apple at the moment

So, you're supporting SAMSUNG and GOOGLE, versus another Corporation? Good for you!

You don't "give a flying sh1t about product copying". Well, with an attitude like that, you'll go far.

Auvers · 27-01-2012 03:11PM

Gophur wrote: »

So, you're supporting SAMSUNG and GOOGLE, versus another Corporation? Good for you!

You don't "give a flying sh1t about product copying". Well, with an attitude like that, you'll go far.

no idea what your babbling about

and I have gotten on fine in life with my attitude

thanks darling

Overheal · 27-01-2012 03:15PM

Auvers wrote: »

nope it just makes you a slave to slick marketing, double the price for half the spec

I have to sell tablets to make a living and theres something to it. Mainly the fact that the iPad is easier for people to use and get into. All the honeycomb interfaces are a little more Here-there-everywhere, and it scares a lot of people away. The prices are better but for people with the money it's often the iPad just for the sake of being easier to work with. People who can deal with that learning curve, or are focused on the price-point, will go for the honeycomb tablets. I'd be happy with either.

On the subject Foxconn is China's problem. Too many companies are invested in it to turn away now. To do so they need to line up new production vendors, which might not even exist for their needs, and not at the same prices. That would generally lead to all of those listed companies taking a huge hit to their competitiveness.

Auvers · 27-01-2012 03:25PM

Overheal wrote: »

I have to sell tablets to make a living and theres something to it. Mainly the fact that the iPad is easier for people to use and get into. All the honeycomb interfaces are a little more Here-there-everywhere, and it scares a lot of people away. The prices are better but for people with the money it's often the iPad just for the sake of being easier to work with. People who can deal with that learning curve, or are focused on the price-point, will go for the honeycomb tablets. I'd be happy with either.

this is true I will suggest an iPhone\iPad to people who are not that technically competent

but Android is getting far slicker these days and with the emergence of ICS this "ease of use" argument is getting more irrelevant by the day

but this still doesn't matter when you see the price of a Macbook compared to a similar spec Laptop there is no competition on what I would purchase

The Internet Explorer · 27-01-2012 03:27PM

A great bunch of lads.

Blazer · 27-01-2012 03:46PM

Gotta love fabois especially the android tards...
Boss is a huge android fanboi and very anti apple. When I got the ip4 he went for the htd desire...
Guess who were ringing up his carrier yesterday whispering into the phone that he needed a few phone as his one had battery issues and problem installing apps to the phone as it only had 128mb internal ram....so you can install to the sd card...what they don't tell you is that you still need to install the app to the internal ram and addons to the sd card if required.
And my iph4? Still going strong with zero issues

Do I think that the iphone 4/4s is one of the best phone out there?- Yes
Do I think that Nokia or Android will eventually bring out a better phone and OS integration - Yes and I'll be hopping over in a heartbeat.

Mate who's a big android fan even admitted that the ipad kicks his Asus transformer's a$$ and it killed him to say it..

So if you're going to be a fanboi...don't...you'll just look and sound...retarded.

Auvers · 27-01-2012 04:01PM

Blazer wrote: »

So if you're going to be a fanboi...don't...you'll just look and sound...retarded.

please check your facts before posting nonsense,

why is there is no mention of the model phone your boss uses? have you seen the Motorola Razor or the Nexus running ICS?

and comparing a Asus Transformer to an iPad is just downright stupid

Apples chinese work policy

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