Social welfare office bans pyjamas for interviews

giant_midget · 25-01-2012 10:23AM #1

Only in Ireland would a social welfare office need to put a sign like this up, Just goes to show the level of scummers that they have to deal with. Does not look well that these "people" are looking for work.

On a personal level i hate the PJ brigade...That they swan around the streets dressed like this...

"A social welfare office in Dublin has erected a sign on its window warning claimants that pyjamas are not appropriate clothing to wear for those attending for interview.

Staff at the Damastown social welfare office said this type of attire will no longer be tolerated.

It is believed the decision was made to ban pyjamas after a number of complaints were made from customers.

Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/social-welfare-office-bans-pyjamas-for-interviews-537219.html#ixzz1kSafmubU"

Archeron · 25-01-2012 10:25AM

What about bananas in pyjamas? Will they be allowed seeing as officially its their work outfit?

Interceptor · 25-01-2012 10:27AM

Archeron wrote: »

What about bananas in pyjamas? Will they be allowed seeing as officially its their work outfit?

Technically they aren't on the dole and seeking state assistance. Though they *are* bananas and not subject to the rules and regulations of mammalian society so probably should be let get away with it.

'cptr

Seachmall · 25-01-2012 10:27AM

These people have extremely active lifestyles, you can't expect them to take the time out to get dressed just to appease the PC Brigade!!

The King of Moo · 25-01-2012 10:28AM

giant_midget wrote: »

Only in Ireland would a social welfare office need to put a sign like this up, Just goes to show the level of scummers that they have to deal with. Does not look well that these "people" are looking for work.

On a personal level i hate the PJ brigade...That they swan around the streets dressed like this...

"A social welfare office in Dublin has erected a sign on its window warning claimants that pyjamas are not appropriate clothing to wear for those attending for interview.

Staff at the Damastown social welfare office said this type of attire will no longer be tolerated.

It is believed the decision was made to ban pyjamas after a number of complaints were made from customers.

Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/social-welfare-office-bans-pyjamas-for-interviews-537219.html#ixzz1kSafmubU"

I don't like the look of pyjamas outdoors, but I don't see how all people who do it are "scummers" and, apparently, not actually people.
Seems like an over-the-top reaction.

Why does it not look well that these "people" are looking for work?

simit · 25-01-2012 10:28AM

Lol only in Ireland. Hopefully tracksuits will be next.

Techno_Toaster · 25-01-2012 10:28AM

Archeron wrote: »

What about bananas in pyjamas? Will they be allowed seeing as officially its their work outfit?

Computer says no

The King of Moo · 25-01-2012 10:31AM

simit wrote: »

Lol only in Ireland. Hopefully tracksuits will be next.

Why? Are tracksuits not considered acceptable outdoor clothes?

Littlehorny · 25-01-2012 10:32AM

There not pyjamas, they are bleedin PERJARMERS roight!!

Ellis Dee · 25-01-2012 10:37AM

This decision is open to a legal challenge on human rights grounds and I expect the staff at that social welfare office will be required to explain on the basis of what law they issued the ban. And, no doubt, more of the taxpayers' time and money will be spent on legal proceedings. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Wearing pyjamas outdoors is, in fact, slobbish and bad manners, but we are getting onto dangerous ground if we start trying to legislate for good taste and good manners, not to mention sartorial elegance.

What next? No trainers, no hijabs, no turbans ...? Will every other jumped up little bureaucrat in the country be able to go solo and arbitrarily enforce a dress code in his or her little bailiwick?:eek:

An establishment like a restaurant, hotel or club may be entitled to enforce a reasonable dress code, because no one is forced to go there, but those who go to a social welfare office have no other choice than to go there to ensure they receive their legal entitlements.:cool:

Mr. Presentable · 25-01-2012 10:38AM

The King of Moo wrote: »

Why? Are tracksuits not considered acceptable outdoor clothes?

I stand to be corrected, but the interviews are not held outdoors. The policy is a correct one, when you dress for an interview it should be to impress.

Seachmall · 25-01-2012 10:40AM

Mr. Presentable wrote: »

I stand to be corrected, but the interviews are not held outdoors. The policy is a correct one, when you dress for an interview it should be to impress.

Are we going to enforce impressing interviewers via dress-code?

If not I don't see how or why tracksuits should be a problem.

If anything it'll help identify the couldn't-be-arsed wasters.

minidazzler · 25-01-2012 10:41AM

Not to be bigotted or anything...but some Muslim garbs look quite pajama like, and definitely super comfortable, will they be allowed to wear those?

mikemac1 · 25-01-2012 10:42AM

Ellis Dee wrote: »

This decision is open to a legal challenge on human rights grounds and I expect the staff at that social welfare office will be required to explain on the basis of what law they issued the ban.

Inspectors do home visits and you can wear whatever you want at home

But go to their offices and it's their rules, they can enforce if they want

Schools have done this before, it's not new

giant_midget · 25-01-2012 10:42AM

The King of Moo wrote: »

I don't like the look of pyjamas outdoors, but I don't see how all people who do it are "scummers" and, apparently, not actually people.
Seems like an over-the-top reaction.

Why does it not look well that these "people" are looking for work?

It's not really an over the top reaction to be honest. If the SW offices felt the need to put up signs so these idiots would not present themselves in PJ's then it is a problem...Goes to show the type of person you are if you turn up in PJ's for a meeting with SW, Says a lot about your lifestyle and you come across as lazy and stupid.

El Horseboxo · 25-01-2012 10:45AM

The King of Moo wrote: »

giant_midget wrote: »

Only in Ireland would a social welfare office need to put a sign like this up, Just goes to show the level of scummers that they have to deal with. Does not look well that these "people" are looking for work.

On a personal level i hate the PJ brigade...That they swan around the streets dressed like this...

"A social welfare office in Dublin has erected a sign on its window warning claimants that pyjamas are not appropriate clothing to wear for those attending for interview.

Staff at the Damastown social welfare office said this type of attire will no longer be tolerated.

It is believed the decision was made to ban pyjamas after a number of complaints were made from customers.

Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/social-welfare-office-bans-pyjamas-for-interviews-537219.html#ixzz1kSafmubU"

Why does it not look well that these "people" are looking for work?

If I was the person working the social welfare office that was interviewing someone that turned up wearing pajamas it would have me questioning their attitude towards trying to find work. I think it speaks volumes for a lazy attitude and level of comfortableness on the dole if you wake up on a day that you have a meeting in a social welfare office and couldn't be arsed with showering and making an effort to dress in a manner for outdoors and especially for an interview. Obviously it could be a wrong opinion but it creates that perception in my view.

25-01-2012 10:45AM

minidazzler wrote: »

Not to be bigotted or anything...but some Muslim garbs look quite pajama like, and definitely super comfortable, will they be allowed to wear those?

Just because they look like PJs doesn't necessarily mean they are.

Also, re: dressing up to impress - yeah, it's not that kind of interview.

Oranage2 · 25-01-2012 10:45AM

Ellis Dee wrote: »

This decision is open to a legal challenge on human rights grounds and I expect the staff at that social welfare office will be required to explain on the basis of what law they issued the ban. And, no doubt, more of the taxpayers' time and money will be spent on legal proceedings. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Wearing pyjamas outdoors is, in fact, slobbish and bad manners, but we are getting onto dangerous ground if we start trying to legislate for good taste and good manners, not to mention sartorial elegance.

What next? No trainers, no hijabs, no turbans ...? Will every other jumped up little bureaucrat in the country be able to go solo and arbitrarily enforce a dress code in his or her little bailiwick?:eek:

An establishment like a restaurant, hotel or club may be entitled to enforce a reasonable dress code, because no one is forced to go there, but those who go to a social welfare office have no other choice than to go there to ensure they receive their legal entitlements.:cool:

They arent banning anything.

The sign just says:

"Please be advised that pyjamas are NOT considered appropriate attire when attending Community welfare services at these offices"

Show Time · 25-01-2012 10:46AM

The smart thing which should have been done is to cut all payments to anyone wearing pyjamas who turns up for an interview. If they are so lazy as to not bother to dress like most normal hard working folks then it is obvious spongers like that should get nothing.

minidazzler · 25-01-2012 10:48AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Just because they look like PJs doesn't necessarily mean they are.

Also, re: dressing up to impress - yeah, it's not that kind of interview.

I'm aware of that, but say Skanger 1 is in line in her PJ's with full face of make up and big hoopy earrings, and is told she can't attend the interview due to inappropriate attire but they accept in Muslim 1 even though she is wearing a garb that while "normal" in her own culture, would look like PJ's in ours.

That's discrimination, and while I don't think they should wear PJ's, they should have the right to.

Crazy Horse 6 · 25-01-2012 10:49AM

What a joke. Nanny state.

force eleven · 25-01-2012 10:54AM

I wear a tuxedo to bed. Is that wrong too?

bijapos · 25-01-2012 10:56AM

The thing is when you're on the dole you are supposed to be "actively seeking work". Going around in PJs to me doesn't look like your serious about looking for a job.

In 2004 I came back here for a week to help a German company with interviews for work. It was a company that was going to employ about 40 people here, about 15 in admin, sales etc and 25 or so on the warehouse floor or in distribution. Remember this was at the height of the "Celtic Tiger".

We got a number of people in for interview for the warehouse jobs and it was obvious that they were only there to get us to tick a form saying they attempted to apply for a job.

Some came dressed in PJs, some swore at the interview, a few started to text, one said he had to make a phone call and proceeded to order gear for the weekend in front of us. It was the Spud in Trainspotting effect, show some effort to get the job, but not enough so as you might actually get it. Fair enough the jobs were filled within the couple of days but some of them their attitude was so obviously offputting to make sure that they didn't get the job.

I was on the dole myself for a while 3 years ago and some of the people I met are professional SW leeches, the vast majority are trying their best to get a job. Its the leeches who seriously couldnt be bothered their arses trying to get work that this is aimed at and I think its fair enough.

25-01-2012 10:56AM

simit wrote: »

Lol only in Ireland.

and china

giles lynchwood · 25-01-2012 10:56AM

Show Time wrote: »

The smart thing which should have been done is to cut all payments to anyone wearing pyjamas who turns up for an interview. If they are so lazy as to not bother to dress like most normal hard working folks then it is obvious spongers like that should get nothing.

They wonder why Cork is not the capital of Ireland.

stargazer 68 · 25-01-2012 10:58AM

The King of Moo wrote: »

Why? Are tracksuits not considered acceptable outdoor clothes?

Eh no!! Unless you are going to the gym or sports training they aren't!!

Seachmall · 25-01-2012 11:04AM

Dovies wrote: »

Eh no!! Unless you are going to the gym or sports training they aren't!!

Well that's bullshit.

25-01-2012 11:05AM

minidazzler wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

Just because they look like PJs doesn't necessarily mean they are.

Also, re: dressing up to impress - yeah, it's not that kind of interview.

I'm aware of that, but say Skanger 1 is in line in her PJ's with full face of make up and big hoopy earrings, and is told she can't attend the interview due to inappropriate attire but they accept in Muslim 1 even though she is wearing a garb that while "normal" in her own culture, would look like PJ's in ours.

That's discrimination, and while I don't think they should wear PJ's, they should have the right to.

Nope, nobody should have the right to wear PJs in public.

Unless it's a negligee and only if they're sexy wimmen.

Eve_Dublin · 25-01-2012 11:29AM

People get very upset over the stupidest of things. Live and let live....maaaaaaaaaaaan!

norrie rugger · 25-01-2012 11:34AM

Seachmall wrote: »

These people have extremely active lifestyles, you can't expect them to take the time out to get dressed just to appease the PC Brigade!!

PJ Brigade surely??

starbelgrade · 25-01-2012 11:58AM

I've never seen anyone wearing pyjamas outdoors.

And they say rural Ireland isn't civilised.

Social welfare office bans pyjamas for interviews

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