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Parents forced to reveal child's sex

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,816 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    The parents deserve to be bullied...:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭AngryBollix


    Big it up for the cross dressers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    "we dont want to put him in a box" Are these people for real? Fair enough let the kid wear what he wants but im afraid there is no escaping that box you f**king idiots.

    I really despair over some people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    If he's got a penis, he shouldn't be wearing girls clothes.


    'Oh, we don't want him adhering to stereotypes'. No, you want publicity for raising a freak. Grow up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Sasha dresses in clothes he likes -- be it a hand-me-downs from his sister or his brother. The big no-no's are hyper-masculine outfits like skull-print shirts and cargo pants. In one photo, sent to friends and family, Sasha's dressed in a shiny pink girl's swimsuit. "Children like sparkly things," says Beck. "And if someone thought Sasha was a girl because he was wearing a pink swimming costume, then what effect would that have? "

    Sasha's also not short on dolls, though Barbie is also off limits. "She's banned because she's horrible," Laxton says in the Cambridge interview.

    On a macro level she hopes her son sets an example for other parents and makes them reconsider buying their own sons trucks or forcing their daughters into tights. She's seen how those consumer trappings affect how and who kids play with in the sandbox.
    How dare parents 'force' kids into wearing pants and liking barbie dolls. We should force all of our children to cross dress instead.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia


    Why are cargo pants a 'big no-no'?

    Also, Sasha doesn't seem very gender-neutral to me. Could've at least called him Alex.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Hyper-masculine (and how hyper-masculine can clothing for a small boy actually be?) clothes a no-no, and sparkly clothing and dolls encouraged? Seems like the parents are imposing femininity on him despite claiming to raise him as gender-neutral.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,423 ✭✭✭tinkerbell


    I was shocked when I read this story yesterday, it's absolutely ridiculous. Those parents should have that kid taken off them, they have no idea of how to raise a child. They didn't want to stereotype the kid but yet they dressed him up in a ballerina's tutu?! Like WTF? They are completely contradicting the whole "gender-neutral" thing by blantantly dressing him up in girls clothes. That poor kid is gonna have serious identity issues as he grows older.

    And eh I always thought Sasha was a GIRL's name, not a boy's name. Sounds to me like those parents really wanted a girl, but got a boy. So they did as much as they could to make the kid seem like a girl, so called him a girl's name and disguised the dressing him up in girl's clothes and playing with dolls as being gender-neutral. Yeah, you ain't fooling anyone. Stupid idiot parents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Dudess wrote: »
    Hyper-masculine (and how hyper-masculine can clothing for a small boy actually be?) clothes a no-no, and sparkly clothing and dolls encouraged? Seems like the parents are imposing femininity on him despite claiming to raise him as gender-neutral.
    They wanted a girl, got a boy, and pretended he was a girl. Basically. Whole thing stinks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    I know a guy all right whose son is called Sasha, but it strikes me as a very girlie name and I reckon the kid would get grief for it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Why are we still condoning bullying here?

    "We cant do this because the kid will be bullying!"?

    In other words, bullying is present and acceptable, all we can do is confrom to it...?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,108 ✭✭✭RachaelVO


    I thought they were weirdos then, and I pretty much haven't changed that opinion! Pair of Morons!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    "we dont want to put him in a box" Are these people for real? Fair enough let the kid wear what he wants but im afraid there is no escaping that box you f**king idiots.

    I really despair over some people.

    I have a feeling he will find it difficult to get into any box after this


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,495 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    Dudess wrote: »
    I know a guy all right whose son is called Sasha, but it strikes me as a very girlie name and I reckon the kid would get grief for it.

    Sasha is a masculine gender name. Russian, I believe. I find it odd when people give the name to their daughter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭cruais


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Why are we still condoning bullying here?

    "We cant do this because the kid will be bullying!"?

    In other words, bullying is present and acceptable, all we can do is confrom to it...?

    Think about it tho. Children can be very cruel and that little boys parents are just attention seeking knobs!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    brummytom wrote: »
    If he's got a penis, he shouldn't be wearing girls clothes.

    And girls should only wear dresses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Why are we still condoning bullying here?

    "We cant do this because the kid will be bullying!"?

    In other words, bullying is present and acceptable, all we can do is confrom to it...?
    Unfair to use a child to make a point though - not an appropriate method of tackling accepted norms IMO. The kid's a boy - to hide that biological fact from him is ****ed up IMO. Otherwise let him discover what he enjoys himself - and if that's glittery nail-varnish, more power to him - but using him for a social experiment is appalling.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    Dudess wrote: »
    Hyper-masculine (and how hyper-masculine can clothing for a small boy actually be?) clothes a no-no, and sparkly clothing and dolls encouraged? Seems like the parents are imposing femininity on him despite claiming to raise him as gender-neutral.

    How is sparkly clothing feminine as you put it? Did you tell the male ice skaters on Dancing On Ice about that?

    The issue is with societies bullying on what is stereotyping rather than what the individual is wearing.
    tinkerbell wrote:
    And eh I always thought Sasha was a GIRL's name, not a boy's name.

    I worked with a bloke called Sasha before, its quite a common name in Ireland and Euroland for blokes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Sparkly clothing is still feminine - the ice skating guys are just wearing a costume, doubtful they'd wear a sequinned t-shirt and jeans to the pub.
    Maybe associating it with femininity is a social construct - probably is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    This is just another story that shows that some people shouldn't be allowed have kids.

    Fair enough if the parents think forcing a "gender identity" on their child is wrong but is forcing the child to grow up gender neutral any better? Treating their child like a lab rat for a social experiment is is pretty cruel.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36 lemme


    "c'mon baby, lift your big ass for sasha"



    Sasha and Digweed too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    Dudess wrote: »
    Sparkly clothing is still feminine - the ice skating guys are just wearing a costume, doubtful they'd wear a sequenced t-shirt and jeans to the pub.
    Maybe associating it with femininity is a social construct - probably is.

    Perhaps some would if it was allowed? It reminds me of the idiot on a bus before who gave me abuse for having long hair as a man, he had it is his thick head that only men should have short hair and women only long hair. I did point out you're one baldy muppet who hadn't got the balls to grow any hair :)

    Social construct sounds right, we have to abide by what society says is 'normal' for both men and women.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭saa


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    And girls should only wear dresses.

    Skirts are okay though





    Lets stop prescribing what everyone else wears cough cough parents of that child, yeah.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Sparkly clothes are is just as feminine as " skull-print shirts and cargo pants" are masculine imo. Possibly even more so, plenty of women's tshirts etc have skull print? Banning one and not the other is ridiculous.

    Agree with the opinion that they just wanted a girl and therefore this was a bit messed up.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Mardy Bum


    Freud would have a field day with this kid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Havermeyer


    Sinfonia wrote: »
    Why are cargo pants a 'big no-no'?

    "No cargo pants for you 'infant', they're too masculine. How about a gender neutral pink sparkly swimsuit?"

    Seriously, what the fuuuuuuuuuuu...........

    I blame violent video games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 birdlake


    Read this article elsewhere earlier...am baffled that these parents allow pink swimsuits but not skull shirts or cargo pants :confused: If he survives childhood with these idiots as parents, the rest of his life should be a doddle!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Poor kid. The parents are full of shit, hypocritical, attention seeking cunts.

    Sad situation. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭IsaacWunder


    Mardy Bum wrote: »
    Freud would have a field day with the parents.

    FYP


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    cruais wrote: »
    Think about it tho. Children can be very cruel and that little boys parents are just attention seeking knobs!

    Children are cruel because chidlren being cruel is tolerated. Agree with the scond part.
    Dudess wrote: »
    Unfair to use a child to make a point though - not an appropriate method of tackling accepted norms IMO. The kid's a boy - to hide that biological fact from him is ****ed up IMO. Otherwise let him discover what he enjoys himself - and if that's glittery nail-varnish, more power to him - but using him for a social experiment is appalling.

    Oh, absoluely. But I was just commenting on the the issue of the possibility of bullying. Poor kid's getting it from both sides here, unless he does actually want to wear the stuff. But while people are condemning the parents attitudes, their accepting the playground's.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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