The Recession......your solutions?

SafeSurfer · 19-01-2012 01:11PM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Yes that's exactly what I mean :rolleyes:

As I said I know there are those who are genuinely in need of help. And yes we need to do something to fix what's happening.

But that's not going to happen if everytime the government implements new ( and yes harsh) measures people moan and complain and protest.

Enda K never promised an easy ride, we need to stop acting as though he did and is now going back on his word.

Promises you say?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APspFqV9CIE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LTCT7QIeP8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccH8ht3T1_k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDY9dG89iBU

Cee-Jay-Cee · 19-01-2012 02:00PM

Guill wrote: »

Big **** you to the EU and Merkel. Then i would close all borders, we have enough in Ireland to survive.

Yeah that would work. Ireland has an abundance of fossil fuels and so we could continue to drive our cars, run our power stations, heat our homes/schools/hospitals, run our factories indefinitely. Yeah that would work.

yeppydeppy · 19-01-2012 02:02PM

I say we replace the government with people like Michael O'Leary, Fergal Quinn, Tony O'Reilly and Michael Smurfit to run the country like a business. The place would be sorted out in no time.

c_man · 19-01-2012 02:05PM

Offer tax incentives to attract the porn industry to Ireland. Turn the country into a "Porn centre of excellence". Not alone the movies but we'd also have conventions, theme parks etc etc.

AnonoBoy · 19-01-2012 02:09PM

Hibernate until it's all over seems like the best solution to me.

squod · 19-01-2012 02:36PM

Iceland had the right idea AGAIN. Introducing new internet hosting laws like. Looks like any decent internet server will migrate away from the United States of paranoia and set up shop there.

We should follow suit ASAP. Kick EMI out of the country and rightly support internet freedom. Will mean jobs. Will mean construction and tax revenue too!

Nothingbetter2d · 19-01-2012 02:39PM

Guill wrote: »

We eat the weakest then when numbers are low enough we will be okay. Simples.

we eat the fat first.... they'll feed us for weeks at a time

Nothingbetter2d · 19-01-2012 02:41PM

yeppydeppy wrote: »

I say we replace the government with people like Michael O'Leary, Fergal Quinn, Tony O'Reilly and Michael Smurfit to run the country like a business. The place would be sorted out in no time.

lol michael o leary would have extra charges for taking a ****

Logical Fallacy · 19-01-2012 02:44PM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Everytime the government introduces an new tax or cut or rise in price or possibility of a bailout as a method of combatting the recession there is an outpouring of moaning and protesting against. But I have yet to see offer anyone a viable solution. And no taxing the super rich only or cutting only TDs salaries do not count.

So I ask my fellow Boardsies/AHers, what would you do if you were Taoiseach/TD? If the Government is not allowed to bring more cuts/taxes/price raises/bailouts then what can they do?

Lets have some genuine answers please, not the usual 'tax the rich, cut TDs salaries' cop outs.

So basically you want to hear solutions that you agree with, but not ones you don't.

It's a career in politics for you!

AudreyHepburn · 19-01-2012 03:14PM

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

So basically you want to hear solutions that you agree with, but not ones you don't.

It's a career in politics for you!

No but nice try though :rolleyes:

I just wanted to hear something other than 'tax the rich' for once.

Obviously that needs to happen, but that alone won't work despite what people seem to think.

ScumLord · 19-01-2012 03:34PM

yeppydeppy wrote: »

I say we replace the government with people like Michael O'Leary, Fergal Quinn, Tony O'Reilly and Michael Smurfit to run the country like a business. The place would be sorted out in no time.

Countries are basically run like big businesses, that's why they focus on money more than people. Putting the likes of O'Leary in charge of things will make those systems more economical and efficient but he may not take the human side of things into account.

AeoNGriM · 19-01-2012 03:34PM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

And here, in my opinion, is the biggest problem of all.....the idea that if you are in anyway positive at the moment it is because you are middle or upper class and have no clue what the poor misfortunate working classes are going through.

I'm certainly not middle class ( not working class either mind). I just don't honestly see the point in being bitter and constantly whining about we all knew would be tough times.

My own main solution would to stop feeling sorry for ourselves, realise that compare a lot of contries in the world we are privilaged and start being proactive and looking to the future.

So basically your solution is to do absolutely fcukall?

Logical Fallacy · 19-01-2012 03:37PM

AeoNGriM wrote: »

So basically your solution is to do absolutely fcukall?

Don't you know...just feeling better about things fixes everything.

WoollyRedHat · 19-01-2012 03:46PM

My idea is that the government should take out about 10 million or whatever, go to the bookies and place it on a 2/1 stake, and then keep on repeating, it will be a sure thing and we'll be rich in no time and can go back to purchasing nice apartments in Marbella.

billybudd · 19-01-2012 04:03PM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Yes that's exactly what I mean :rolleyes:

As I said I know there are those who are genuinely in need of help. And yes we need to do something to fix what's happening.

But that's not going to happen if everytime the government implements new ( and yes harsh) measures people moan and complain and protest.

Enda K never promised an easy ride, we need to stop acting as though he did and is now going back on his word.

Edna Kenny and his political friends would promise the world to gain power, they have broken a hell of a lot of promises to a hell of allot of people, in fact at this stage they have broken more promises than what they have made and hide behind the safety net of the EU and IMF, honestly if they had made speeches with the honesty and brutality of what was needed to be done for this country to get back on its feet then they still would have won the election and maybe people would still have some belief in politics, instead like those that have gone before they lied and we as people have the right to complain after all their wages come from the public coffers. You should look up what financial stress can do to a persons mind and then maybe you won’t have the same easy going attitude you have now. The social and mental health problems that this recession is causing will last decades and will be devastating.

TheZohanS · 19-01-2012 04:20PM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I have a job but still live at home because I can't afford to move out. My parents are the reason I have roof over my head. I don't have transport because again I can't afford a car at the moment. I don't pay the bills but I support myself.

I have struggled too. I just think that being bitter and all doom-and-gloom about things won't help anything.

We are in tough time but the country is not about to fall apart just yet.

The country has fallen apart for people that have lost their jobs and do not have the option of moving home Audrey. You're a very lucky girl to have that option.

I recall reading about a family where both the husband and wife had lost their jobs and they had two kids and a mortgage to look after. Now that's a struggle, living with mammy and daddy isn't, it's an easy life for the most part.

yeppydeppy · 19-01-2012 04:25PM

ScumLord wrote: »

Countries are basically run like big businesses, that's why they focus on money more than people. Putting the likes of O'Leary in charge of things will make those systems more economical and efficient but he may not take the human side of things into account.

That's why I'd have Fergal Quinn in there and a few more - to give some balance.

foxyboxer · 19-01-2012 04:28PM

Negotiate a long term repayment plan with the Troika like Germany's War reparations. The interest rate on the loans need to be slashed and repaid over a multi-generational period.*

* Never going to happen though.

ScumLord · 19-01-2012 06:09PM

yeppydeppy wrote: »

That's why I'd have Fergal Quinn in there and a few more - to give some balance.

You won't get that in Ireland what you'll get is two sides arguing with each other just for the sake of arguing and nothing will get done.

Irish people don't have the social skills to run this country properly. We'll just have to wait another 50 years.

Johnny Foreigner · 19-01-2012 06:58PM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Everytime the government introduces an new tax or cut or rise in price or possibility of a bailout as a method of combatting the recession there is an outpouring of moaning and protesting against. But I have yet to see offer anyone a viable solution. And no taxing the super rich only or cutting only TDs salaries do not count.

So I ask my fellow Boardsies/AHers, what would you do if you were Taoiseach/TD? If the Government is not allowed to bring more cuts/taxes/price raises/bailouts then what can they do?

Lets have some genuine answers please, not the usual 'tax the rich, cut TDs salaries' cop outs.

1. Go back to using the Irish Punt instead of the Euro.
2. Ireland leaves the EU and gets back its sovereignty.
3. Ireland has zero tolerance on non EU immigrants.

Eric Cartman · 19-01-2012 07:22PM

fedor.2. wrote: »

Fair play to ya, you've just typed the stupidest post ive ever read. I salute you.

you obviously have never read marx then. Please enlighten me as to why you think any of what I have said is 'stupid'

44leto · 19-01-2012 07:25PM

Its all about confidence and getting that feel good factor going again.

So all we have to do is add prozac to the drinking water,,simples,,

Nolanger · 19-01-2012 07:37PM

Re-open the closed head shops and tax everything they sell.

Phill Ewinn · 19-01-2012 07:47PM

Nolanger wrote: »

Re-open the closed head shops and tax everything they sell.

Could do with some head right now.

Jesus Wept · 19-01-2012 08:05PM

I'd fix the place up.
Vote for me.

Eric Cartman · 19-01-2012 08:16PM

starbelgrade wrote: »

Sounds like a recipe for disaster.

explain ?

Benny_Cake · 19-01-2012 08:25PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

cut all benefits down to just food stamps, privatize everything, sell everything off, reduce the size of government to a bare minimum, dont give the banks any money, leave the euro and base a currency on gold. Close Irelands borders, kick out any non national without a job, abolish VRT, lower VAT to 20%, abolish the USC, remove the carbon tax on fuel, increase DIRT to 75%, lower the price of cigarettes and drink to 2005 levels. Let the offo's open 24/7. Remove the housing tax. Abolish the minimum wage. Abolish the RSA, the PSA and any other regulatory body preventing access into a profession. Tax religions, sell off all the assets in NAMA, kill the TV licence and sell RTE's production end. Convert any tax/duty on diesel to VAT to help businesses.

Eric Cartman wrote: »

you obviously have never read marx then. Please enlighten me as to why you think any of what I have said is 'stupid'

For one thing, how would abolishing the RSA help us out of the recession? Or how would allowing 24 hour off licences help us out of the recession?

Nailz · 19-01-2012 08:31PM

Quantitative easing; with zero obligation and zero interest. But of course everything has to be far more complex than that for the ECB...

toexpress · 19-01-2012 08:34PM

Just stop paying social welfare

Nolanger · 19-01-2012 08:56PM

Make graduates who want to emigrate pay back their education grant!

The Recession......your solutions?

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