Would you wear clothing with the British Flag on it?

Where To · 19-01-2012 02:29AM

I believe it is disrespectful to wear the flag of any country as an item of clothing.

So no, I wouldn't.

Dudess · 19-01-2012 02:33AM

It's not possible to hate several million people of various ethnicities and whom you've never met - does that not seem in any way stupid to you?

Auvers · 19-01-2012 02:33AM

bwatson wrote: »

What you don't like is that the British are proud of the role their military played - first in fending off the Luftwaffe and saving the nation from invasion, and then the contribution made on the western front.

there is something to say about the stiff upper lip

nothing like the British army for discipline, although that is in decline just like the empire

Seanchai · 19-01-2012 02:33AM

pmcmahon wrote: »

The British are proud...

Jesus get over it you perennially conceited, benighted, tribal, flag-waving, self-congratulating bastards. Full of yourselves or what. Muppets. Always.

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starbelgrade · 19-01-2012 02:35AM

Seanchai wrote: »

Jesus get over it you perennially conceited, benighted, tribal, flag-waving, self-congratulating bastards. Full of yourselves or what. Muppets. Always.

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ejmaztec · 19-01-2012 02:36AM

I never wear white t-shirts in case anyone thinks I'm French.:(

starbelgrade · 19-01-2012 02:37AM

ejmaztec wrote: »

I never wear white t-shirts in case anyone thinks I'm French.:(

It's not the white t-shirt - it's the baguette sticking out of your back pocket.

ejmaztec · 19-01-2012 02:38AM

Seanchai wrote: »

Jesus get over it you perennially conceited, benighted, tribal, flag-waving, self-congratulating bastards. Full of yourselves or what. Muppets. Always.

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Does this mean that you wouldn't wear clothing with a British flag on it?

RMD · 19-01-2012 02:39AM

Johnny Foreigner wrote: »

I don't just hate British people.
I also hate Africans, Roma Gypsies, and Asylum Seekers that have been refused entry to the UK, then come to Ireland instead of returning to their country of origin.
Yes, British culture is massive, so is American culture. But I am not a fan of globalisation. Ireland has lost its sovereignty and identity. We are no longer Irish, we are European. I think the Irish have lost their identity, and Ireland has too many immigrants.
I prefer Irish culture to British culture. That's my personal choice, and I respect that not all Irish feel the same. Maybe its because I was born in London and lived there for a long time, so British culture reached saturation pint for me.

Go to France, Germany, Italy, Spain and any other country throughout Europe. The culture isn't "European", it's distinct in each country, in some countries there's even distinct differences in cultures in various regions. The Irish aren't European, there is no mainstream European culture. The Irish are Irish, it will be a long long time before we come "European", we just don't have the class for it. Might sound offensive to some but it's true, and I like that how we're still "Irish".

Seanchai · 19-01-2012 02:39AM

starbelgrade wrote: »

Ranting anti-British tripe : 4

Person thinking he's "open-minded" by making excuses for the same British nationalists and their imperialist history: 800. :rolleyes:

ejmaztec · 19-01-2012 02:39AM

starbelgrade wrote: »

It's not the white t-shirt - it's the baguette sticking out of your back pocket.

No, I usually strap that to me leg.

starbelgrade · 19-01-2012 02:40AM

Seanchai wrote: »

Person thinking he's "open-minded" by making excuses for the same British nationalists and their imperialist history: 800. :rolleyes:

So that's 800 to me, 4 to you.

In any sport, I think that's what's called an emphatic victory.

Seanchai · 19-01-2012 02:43AM

ejmaztec wrote: »

Does this mean that you wouldn't wear clothing with a British flag on it?

About the most retarded thing imaginable in a world of retarded things that the Union Jack is put on - starting with all that food in shops like Tesco. They must have some fairly shíte insecurity about their identity when they have to put a Union Jack on their food in order to sell it, just like they have to describe their films as "British" in order to sell them. :rolleyes: Cringe. Last refuge and all that. Tribal bastards.

Where To · 19-01-2012 02:43AM

starbelgrade wrote: »

So that's 800 to me, 4 to you.

In any sport, I think that's what's called an emphatic victory.

That's a cricket score:pac:

Celly Smunt · 19-01-2012 03:06AM

Seanchai wrote: »

About the most retarded thing imaginable in a world of retarded things that the Union Jack is put on - starting with all that food in shops like Tesco. They must have some fairly shíte insecurity about their identity when they have to put a Union Jack on their food in order to sell it, just like they have to describe their films as "British" in order to sell them. :rolleyes: Cringe. Last refuge and all that. Tribal bastards.

Dunnes stores.We're Irish :rolleyes:

bit hypocritical no?,bord bia symbols,Irish beef,IDB

why am i even arguing this?

Peter T · 19-01-2012 03:08AM

Seanchai wrote: »

About the most retarded thing imaginable in a world of retarded things that the Union Jack is put on - starting with all that food in shops like Tesco. They must have some fairly shíte insecurity about their identity when they have to put a Union Jack on their food in order to sell it, just like they have to describe their films as "British" in order to sell them. :rolleyes: Cringe. Last refuge and all that. Tribal bastards.

And you've never seen the tri color on Irish food products or Irish films being stressed as "Irish" ? And to the original question i would not were a piece of clothing with the union jack

Sharpshooter · 19-01-2012 03:16AM

Seanchai wrote: »

Jesus get over it you perennially conceited, benighted, tribal, flag-waving, self-congratulating bastards. Full of yourselves or what. Muppets. Always.

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Johnny Foreigner · 19-01-2012 03:17AM

RMD wrote: »

Go to France, Germany, Italy, Spain and any other country throughout Europe. The culture isn't "European", it's distinct in each country, in some countries there's even distinct differences in cultures in various regions. The Irish aren't European, there is no mainstream European culture. The Irish are Irish, it will be a long long time before we come "European", we just don't have the class for it. Might sound offensive to some but it's true, and I like that how we're still "Irish".

Nonsense.
Ireland is part of the EU. By definition it is European.
Ireland is now sold to the EU. It has lost its sovereignty.
Wise up.

Nodin · 19-01-2012 05:22AM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Maybe not.

I'm just curious if Nodin is as concerned about the plight of the Congolese, the Algerians, the Phillipinos or the Incas as he is about the Kenyans.

Maybe he is only worried about nations when it suits his bigoted political agenda.

Given some of your outburts round here Fred, I wouldn't be so quick to fire out the 'bigot' allegation.

johnny foreigner wrote:

I hate British culture, and British people. .

An extremist and bigoted position, which is rather illogical.

phurryphace · 19-01-2012 05:34AM

Nope, never.

Resi12 · 19-01-2012 05:52AM

Yes, the past is the past. It's not like I'd vow to never visit Germany.

Lanaier · 19-01-2012 07:19AM

I wouldn't wear it.
Would feel a little uncomfortable tbh, I'm sure my English mates would find it weird too but beyond that I wouldn't give it much thought.
If it was an exceptionally nice jacket or something I might but then what exceptionally nice jacket would have a flag on it?

Then again I won't wear anything with a distinctive or large label of any kind.

If it has a label that I can see it should either be subtle or on the inside.
I'm not a walking billboard thank you.

Cú Giobach · 19-01-2012 09:05AM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

No one I know that fought in WWII has anything against Fritz either. They accepted that 90% of Germans were no different to them.

As Antony Beevoir put it in his book Berlin.....

"Attitudes to the war varied between armies. Idealistic Americans and Canadians felt that they had a duty to rescue the old world, then return home as soon as possible...........French regular officers in particular were focused on revenge for the humiliations of 1940.........In the British Army, however, a newly arrived officer might believe that he had come to take part in 'a life and death struggle for democracy and the freedom of the world', but found out instead the war was 'treated as an incident in regimental history against a reasonably sporting opponent'. Nothing, needless to say, could have been further from the Russian view."

Have you met many who fought in the Red Army on the Eastern front? Many of them were amazed that German children were just like Russian ones.

That same logic doesn't seem to work with regards Britain and Ireland though, There seems to be a belief that Tracy from Essex was alive and kicking and therefore responsible for the famine in the mid 19th century, whereas Sinead, whose great great great grandfather was a wheat farmer in tipperary at the time, was a completely innocent bistander.

And he's off again, "lets not blame the government, it was the peoples own fault".
I suppose the Stalinist regime weren't fully responsible for the famine in the USSR in the 30's, because the very same kind of incidents happened there as did in Ireland, as happens with famines worldwide.
In such horror the vast majority end up looking after themselves and their own. Your beloved UCC treatise explains this behaviour quite well, of course you never quote that bit.

Noffles · 19-01-2012 09:08AM

Still going on is it... I'd say half the posters here now don't know what the actual thread is about, just that it's bandwagon time to hate the Brits... lol.

Kotek Besar · 19-01-2012 09:23AM

Johnny Foreigner wrote: »

Hatred of their country of birth. Like I said.
I have not got a chip on my shoulder. I hate Britain and British people.

<snipped rest of tripe>

..and yet you continue to choose to be a British citizen.

old hippy · 19-01-2012 10:47AM

And so it goes. Proud, proud people. Us and them. So proud we like to claim we suffered 800 years of infamy. And then we enslaved ourselves to the RCC. Then we whored out Shannon to the imperial war machine. Then we gave all our money away. Again. Then we were victim to a recession. Again. And then the emigration. Again.

People ask me why there aren't riots in the streets back home. Why there isn't civil unrest.

It seems to me that the only spark of anger occurs when someone dares criticise our blighted isle. The uberpats show their bravery then. And gods forbid if one of our own should criticise. :rolleyes:

Isn't it getting a bit tired now?

sensibleken · 19-01-2012 10:53AM

blatantrereg wrote: »

Cromwell was the agent of religious fanatics he put into power in England incidentally. (They banned christmas you know.) So you could see him as anti-British as well, since he overthrew the Monarch, or at least as a disparate entity to Britain under different regimes. It really was a very long time ago too...

The Catholic church did succeed in absolutely wiping out druidism, which was core to the cultural identity here.

Thats a major twisting of history to suggest Cromwell was anti-british considering he was britains leader untill his death.

The catholic church did not wipe out druidism too. There was no violent crushing of pagan beliefs in Ireland and the druidic system survived in many parts and structures into early gaelic life and brehon law.

also you can hardly say cromwell was a long time ago then bring up the druids can you

Lanaier · 19-01-2012 11:02AM

old hippy wrote: »

People ask me why there aren't riots in the streets back home. Why there isn't civil unrest.

Not to detract from your point (I have not read enough of this thread to say I agree or disagree with whatever the major arguments are)
but I've heard this line so many times now that I'm strongly doubting it's credibility whenever I hear it.

checkyabadself · 19-01-2012 11:15AM

Some Savile Row suits have the British flag next to or as part of their logo on the lining of the jackets, so yes I would wear clothing with the British flag on it.

Im guessing the op is referring to the flag being worn on the visible side of the clothing and wearing it as an endorsement, part of a British brands logo or a symbol of pride. I wouldn't wear clothing with logos or visible branding let alone national flags because it is simply a tacky display of wealth or wearing ones heart on their sleeve .

The real issue or subliminal question is "Are you bitter over British rule in the past in this country or not?".
This question is then repackaged and trivialized about whether people mind the British flag on a running shoe that, coincidentally also has a corporate logo of a company advertised on it. This company manufactures these running shoes in a sweat shop in Indonesia where the natives are in forced poverty today.

The argument that being upset over previous oppressive British rule is a reason not to buy items of clothing is frankly horse5h1t when the same person is willing to buy clothes plastered with logos that are the product of slave labour that exists today.

sensibleken · 19-01-2012 11:31AM

Johnny Foreigner wrote: »

I lived in London for 28 years. I lived in Oxford for 4 years when I attended University there. I moved to Ireland 3 years ago.
I am well educated, and well travelled; having visited over 20 countries.
I have dated both English and Irish girls.
I was not racist until I came to Ireland. Now I am racist. When I left Britain 3 years ago, I hated what it had become. Multiculturalism in Britain has not worked. I think Britain, like Ireland; has been too lax on immigration. There are now too many immigrants in both countries. My parents were immigrants, part of the Irish diaspora that left Ireland in 1960 and went to work in London.
I decided that 50 years later, I would do the same thing in reverse; and leave London to live in Ireland. I hate what Britain has become, and British peoples attitudes. Yes, that includes British born children of immigrants.
I feel I would be a hypocrite saying there are too many immigrants living in Britain, when my parents were immigrants and lived there too. I have no more right to live in Britain than anyone else born there. Rather than say they don't belong, I have no problem returning to Ireland; where I belong, as I am Irish.
.

I love some of the crap racists come out with.

Child of Emigrants, Hates immigrants......emigrates.

Maybe you need to try it one more time and take your hateful crap back to blighty

Would you wear clothing with the British Flag on it?

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