Would you wear clothing with the British Flag on it?

Cú Giobach · 18-01-2012 05:11PM

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

Just to prove that no one would even notice it? English people wear the German parkas too, by the way, I'd imagine they were wearing them before they were fashionable in certain scenes in Ireland. I've never heard English people speak bad of the Germans outside of a jokey manner,

Not quite the same in Russia though. Occupation makes things a tad different.

pickarooney · 18-01-2012 05:11PM

Tabnabs wrote: »

Some countries flags just look good or have a perceived cool vibe about them, the Union Flag just isn't one of them...

It absolutely does. You see union flag livery on all kinds of things, from cups to cars, in every country in the world. After the stars and stripes I can't think of a single more popular flag design in the world and it's always been considered a couple of notches of chic higher than old glory.

Cú Giobach · 18-01-2012 05:11PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

It would have to be a proper flag, and not one with a huge orange bit in the middle and tiny green and white stripes either side.

An orange eating a shamrock?

Paparazzo · 18-01-2012 05:12PM

summerskin wrote: »

have done it hundreds of times with my old parka coat and my old west germany football shirt. no problems at all, same when i wear an argentina football shirt.

Fratton Fred wrote: »

The response in both countries would be an overwhelming lack of interest tbh.

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

Just to prove that no one would even notice it? English people wear the German parkas too, by the way, I'd imagine they were wearing them before they were fashionable in certain scenes in Ireland. I've never heard English people speak bad of the Germans outside of a jokey manner, I can't say the same for the Irish speaking of our British neighbours.

I wore a German football jersey in England before and almost got into several fights because of it. Never again.

KeithAFC · 18-01-2012 05:13PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

It would have to be a proper flag, and not one with a huge orange bit in the middle and tiny green and white stripes either side.

Will depend on how long it has to be on for.

Feisar · 18-01-2012 05:13PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3L0B2At_W4

mongdesade · 18-01-2012 05:15PM

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

I've never heard English people speak bad of the Germans outside of a jokey manner, I can't say the same for the Irish speaking of our British neighbours.

Ask yourself...why ?

ejmaztec · 18-01-2012 05:15PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

Will depend on how long it has to be on for.

All day on 12th July:D.

sensibleken · 18-01-2012 05:15PM

blatantrereg wrote: »

So do you reckon the colonisation of Ireland by Britain was more or less destructive than the colonisation of Ireland by the Catholic church?

They were opposing forces after all. Surely the Catholic church were the bad guys. More oppression, more repression and more heinous crimes by them than there were by the Brits I'd have thought.

People should be proud to wear the union jack, in honour of those who stood against that evil force in our land.

nope. firstly at the time of the anglo norman invasion the 'brits' were catholic and it was authorised by rome to bring ireland under the control of rome. second of all the catholic church never wiped out a third of the population ala cromwell or attempted to wipe out its cultural identity.

Catholic church was nasty but submission to it, historically, was voluntary adn not as bad as british rule.

KeithAFC · 18-01-2012 05:19PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

All day on 12th July:D.

Would make an interesting gameshow. See how many people can survive.

Stripey Cat · 18-01-2012 05:23PM

Apart from at the airport and their embassy, are there any British flags flying in Dublin normally?

You see other flags around hotels, especially the US one. Is anyone flying a Union Flag anywhere?

Stripey Cat · 18-01-2012 05:25PM

Will their flag change if the Scots leave?
http://www.indymedia.ie/attachments/aug2007/union_flag.jpg

blatantrereg · 18-01-2012 05:28PM

sensibleken wrote: »

nope. firstly at the time of the anglo norman invasion the 'brits' were catholic and it was authorised by rome to bring ireland under the control of rome. second of all the catholic church never wiped out a third of the population ala cromwell or attempted to wipe out its cultural identity.

Catholic church was nasty but submission to it, historically, was voluntary adn not as bad as british rule.

Cromwell was the agent of religious fanatics he put into power in England incidentally. (They banned christmas you know.) So you could see him as anti-British as well, since he overthrew the Monarch, or at least as a disparate entity to Britain under different regimes. It really was a very long time ago too...

The Catholic church did succeed in absolutely wiping out druidism, which was core to the cultural identity here.

RichieC · 18-01-2012 05:30PM

pickarooney wrote: »

It absolutely does. You see union flag livery on all kinds of things, from cups to cars, in every country in the world. After the stars and stripes I can't think of a single more popular flag design in the world and it's always been considered a couple of notches of chic higher than old glory.

USSR flag is the best of the lot. and their anthem.

Spacedog · 18-01-2012 05:32PM

smash wrote: »

Can you get union jack toilet roll?

try here

Fratton Fred · 18-01-2012 05:32PM

blatantrereg wrote: »

Cromwell was the agent of religious fanatics he put into power in England incidentally. (They banned christmas you know.) He also overthrew the British government. So you could see him as anti-British as well, or at least as a disparate entity to Britain under different regimes. It really was a very long time ago too...

The Catholic church did succeed in absolutely wiping out druidism, which was core to the cultural identity here.

Cromwell overthrew the monarchy, not government. He was a Parliamentarian.

There is also the small question of why he came to Ireland, it could have something to do with a planned invasion of England by the Irish confederates to help restore the monarchy.

Celly Smunt · 18-01-2012 05:33PM

Stripey Cat wrote: »

Will their flag change if the Scots leave?
http://www.indymedia.ie/attachments/aug2007/union_flag.jpg

when Ireland left it still didn't so i'd say the same for if scotland leave too.

Feisar · 18-01-2012 05:33PM

Cromwell
The Penal Laws
The Famine

Wikipedia:
"In the 17th and 18th centuries, Irish Catholics had been prohibited by the penal laws from owning land, from leasing land; from voting, from holding political office; from living in a corporate town or within 5 mi (8.0 km) of a corporate town, from obtaining education, from entering a profession, and from doing many other things that are necessary in order to succeed and prosper in life. The laws had largely been reformed by 1793, and in 1829, Irish Catholics could again sit in parliament following the Act of Emancipation."

The country was one big concentration camp.

And before someone says get over it/living in the past/etc. I have already stated that anyone is entitled to wear what they like, I don't nor should I have any problem with that.

As I've said before the Union flag is the same as the Swastika to me.

Paparazzo · 18-01-2012 05:35PM

Stripey Cat wrote: »

Apart from at the airport and their embassy, are there any British flags flying in Dublin normally?

You see other flags around hotels, especially the US one. Is anyone flying a Union Flag anywhere?

There were a good few around last year, think it was for the queens visit. But pubs in dublin had union jacks outside them. Not sure what it is, but the union jack looks tacky. Think it's the over use as a pattern

Celly Smunt · 18-01-2012 05:36PM

Feisar wrote: »

Cromwell
The Penal Laws
The Famine

Wikipedia:
"In the 17th and 18th centuries, Irish Catholics had been prohibited by the penal laws from owning land, from leasing land; from voting, from holding political office; from living in a corporate town or within 5 mi (8.0 km) of a corporate town, from obtaining education, from entering a profession, and from doing many other things that are necessary in order to succeed and prosper in life. The laws had largely been reformed by 1793, and in 1829, Irish Catholics could again sit in parliament following the Act of Emancipation."

The country was one big concentration camp.

And before someone says get over it/living in the past/etc. I have already stated that anyone is entitled to wear what they like, I don't nor should I have any problem with that.

As I've said before the Union flag is the same as the Swastika to me.

Should've converted.

EarlERizer · 18-01-2012 05:37PM

Cú Giobach wrote: »

Someone says they would be uncomfortable wearing something with the union flag on it, they are then attacked and called all sorts of names along with mass generalisations about Irish people and you say you are the recipient of bile and hatred, Wow!
One side attacks an emblem the other a people, which is worse?

Careful in your assumption mo chara, where have I said (barr a post refering to an incident in Blackrock) I have been subjected to bile & hatred? I'm going to hazard a guess that you read my line "we endure bile & vitriol on open forums blah blah blah par for the course" and have conveniently edited your reply to suit your mood.

So,with that in mind, my use of "we" in the sentence was not we the English/British but we the readers and members of boards.ie in particular the after hours threads, as in "We get allsorts round here" ..... and for the record I'm Irish.

KeithAFC · 18-01-2012 05:38PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Cromwell overthrew the monarchy, not government. He was a Parliamentarian.

There is also the small question of why he came to Ireland, it could have something to do with a planned invasion of England by the Irish confederates to help restore the monarchy.

Oliver Cromwell also seeked revenge for 1641 in his brutal killing of Irish Catholics. He did have a motive and didn't just ride in on a horse without one.

Stripey Cat · 18-01-2012 05:39PM

Paparazzo wrote: »

There were a good few around last year, think it was for the queens visit. But pubs in dublin had union jacks outside them. Not sure what it is, but the union jack looks tacky. Think it's the over use as a pattern

I looked and I didn't see any.

Josephine O Beirnes · 18-01-2012 05:40PM

Good jasus no, never... i dont think any sane irish person would,

Dyr · 18-01-2012 05:42PM

Stripey Cat wrote: »

Will their flag change if the Scots leave?
http://www.indymedia.ie/attachments/aug2007/union_flag.jpg

Well the welsh dont have their cross on it so they can just use the george cross instead

pinkpetal · 18-01-2012 05:44PM

NO

token101 · 18-01-2012 05:48PM

I'd say even the English would hand them into the charity shop if they had the union jack on them at this stage. Why do you think Reebok Classics are so popular with scumbags? They should be marked 'Sovereigns stolen separately'.

brummytom · 18-01-2012 05:48PM

bronte wrote: »

Presumably you also refuse to visit Britain or watch any programme broadcasted by a British TV channel or use any product that comes from Britain as well......in case you catch the Britain off them?

I wouldn't wear the flag and I live in Britain...

Cú Giobach · 18-01-2012 05:53PM

EarlERizer wrote: »

Careful in your assumption mo chara, where have I said (barr a post refering to an incident in Blackrock) I have been subjected to bile & hatred? I'm going to hazard a guess that you read my line "we endure bile & vitriol on open forums blah blah blah par for the course" and have conveniently edited your reply to suit your mood.

So,with that in mind, my use of "we" in the sentence was not we the English/British but we the readers and members of boards.ie in particular the after hours threads, as in "We get allsorts round here" ..... and for the record I'm Irish.

Gabh mo leithscéal, The only part of your post that "took sides" was you saying you agree with Lord Such's point, which was about "brit bashing" and vitriol and hatred against Britain or England when in fact most of the vitriol here is against the Irish. I read all your post but didn't quote the part that didn't take sides.
"We" around here could mean you are Irish but a UK Unionist.

Celly Smunt · 18-01-2012 05:53PM

brummytom wrote: »

I wouldn't wear the flag and I live in Britain...

That's actually one thing i noticed in england myself,you'll always see english flags flying from peoples houses etc but never a union flag

Would you wear clothing with the British Flag on it?

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