Would you wear clothing with the British Flag on it?

circos · 18-01-2012 10:01PM

You gotta love an never ending argument...

Micky Dolenz · 18-01-2012 10:01PM

Allyall wrote: »

REALLY, REALLY sorry, but... Moot Point

I'm thinking there's a lot of baited hooks, and you keep biting..

Mod

Really sorry, that's a yellow. Next one is a ban.

Spelling police be warned.

Fratton Fred · 18-01-2012 10:04PM

Yahew wrote: »

Except most of the killings were by the fellow country men of the British. This goes back to my claim, earlier, that the Northern Irish were not seen as British. bwatson was appalled, but - as I pointed out - most terrorism was committed by people born in the UK but is seen as Irish.

Just as the 7/7 bombing was carried out by British citizens, but for some reason "The Muslims" got the blame.

Bomb a train station in someone's name and those people are (rightly or wrongly) likely to get the blame for it.

Allyall · 18-01-2012 10:05PM

Never even knew there was a spelling Police/warning. Nor did i do it, to annoy/irritate, i was pointing out moot/mute are two different things entirely, and that was it.
Anyway, done now.

Dudess · 18-01-2012 10:09PM

I wouldn't care if an item of clothing had a small union jack on it - it has a place in some great pop culture, and we haven't been oppressed by the British empire for a fair few decades now.
Oh yeah and Irish people consume masses and masses of British culture anyway.

Yahew · 18-01-2012 10:10PM

Anyway, the thread got off topic, and I responded in kind. As a proud Irishman who thinks the Union Jack is understandably distrusted in Ireland, and is sympathetic to the argument of people who wouldn't wear a large union jack on their selves, I would nevertheless say to the OP and people who agree, this.

Get over yourselves. Its a tiny little symbol.

the_syco · 18-01-2012 10:12PM

Ask her would she wear a t-shirt with a Pakistan flag on it?

gurramok · 18-01-2012 10:16PM

Dudess wrote: »

I wouldn't care if an item of clothing had a small union jack on it - it has a place in some great pop culture, and we haven't been oppressed by the British empire for a fair few decades now.
Oh yeah and Irish people consume masses and masses of British culture anyway.

Oppressed, Irish people up north did before 1998(GFA). Yes things have moved on but it is important to remember the source of any friction in the modern era and that is NI rather than what happened decades ago in 1920. And let the modern peace continue for generations, its beneficial to both communities in NI.

ejmaztec · 18-01-2012 10:20PM

It would have been a good thread had the internet been around when Richard Harris played Cromwell. The monitors would have spouted blood sweat and tears.:eek:

LordSutch · 18-01-2012 10:21PM

Nodin wrote: »

You haven't answered the question. Would you wear Republican symbols?

If you're talking about those mentioned in post#409, then a big fat NO would be the answer.

Glassheart · 18-01-2012 10:24PM

summerskin wrote: »

I can now see why most in the north want to be british. there isn't the resentment and clinging on to bygone history that you have down here.

Actually,these things are the very cornerstone of Unionism.The culture of victimhood doesn't stop at the border.

Dyr · 18-01-2012 10:25PM

Noel Deafening Valedictorian wrote: »

Most popular names 2010 in ireland jack and sophie couldnt get more british imo and yet most of you wouldnt wear the flag?
Weird!

As often quoted on the subject nationalism last refuge of a scoundrel

be proud of your country by all means but not if it leads to blind hatred of other races

If people were hating on the biafrans then it would be blind hatred :pac: Dem brits have form.

Nodin · 18-01-2012 10:29PM

LordSutch wrote: »

If you're talking about those mentioned in post#409, then a big fat NO would be the answer.

...then why are your knickers in a knot over the refusal of others to be associated with symbols they reject?

Fratton Fred · 18-01-2012 10:41PM

Nodin wrote: »

You haven't answered the question. Would you wear Republican symbols?

I once had a balaclava as a kid, does that count?

LordSutch · 18-01-2012 10:45PM

Nodin wrote: »

...then why are your knickers in a knot over the refusal of others to be associated with symbols they reject?

The Union Flag is the flag of the United Kingdom, and as such it appears on items/produce made and/or produced in the UK. Food packaging, Car bodies, Van's & Lorries, Engines, Buses, Motorcycle frames, Bicycles, Clothing, Coats, Jackets, Knickers, Trainers, Bags, Shoes & Hats, you get the picture . . . It appears on many things that we in Ireland buy in the shops, and yet there are those here on this forum who will make an issue out of the fact that a UK flag label/sticker may be on a given product !!!

Oh look, there's a British flag/label on my boxers, 'Help', cut it off now, no feck it, don't buy it "WHY"? because its got a British Flag on the label

LordSutch · 18-01-2012 10:50PM

Nodin wrote: »

...then why are your knickers in a knot over the refusal of others to be associated with symbols they reject?

The Union Flag is the flag of the United Kingdom, and as such it appears on items/produce made, and/or produced in the UK. Food packaging, Car bodies, Van's & Lorries, Engines, Buses, Motorcycle frames, Bicycles, Clothing, Coats, Jackets, Knickers, Trainers, Bags, Shoes & Hats, you get the picture . . . It appears on many things that we in Ireland buy in the shops, and yet there are those here on this forum who will make an issue out of the fact that a UK flag label/sticker may be on a given product !!!

Oh look, there's a British flag/label on my boxers, 'Help', cut it off now, no feck it, don't buy it "WHY"? because its got a British Flag on the label

starbelgrade · 18-01-2012 10:53PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

I once had a balaclava as a kid, does that count?

Did you used to be ginger?

gurramok · 18-01-2012 10:53PM

LordSutch wrote: »

Oh look, there's a British flag/label on my boxers, 'Help', cut it off now, no feck it, don't buy it "WHY"? because its got a British Flag on the label

Ah now, you're getting carried away here. We can't eat boxers but we can eat chickens so why would we buy union jack boxers?

Nodin · 18-01-2012 10:57PM

LordSutch wrote: »

The Union Flag is the flag of the United Kingdom, and as such it appears on items/produce made and/or produced in the UK. Food packaging, Car bodies, Van's & Lorries, Engines, Buses, Motorcycle frames, Bicycles, Clothing, Coats, Jackets, Knickers, Trainers, Bags, Shoes & Hats, you get the picture . . . It appears on many things that we in Ireland buy in the shops, and yet there are those here on this forum who will make an issue out of the fact that a UK flag label/sticker may be on a given product !!!

Oh look, there's a British flag/label on my boxers, 'Help', cut it off now, no feck it, don't buy it "WHY"? because its got a British Flag on the label

...yes, because they don't want to be associated with that symbol. I've nothing against Germans or Germany, but I wouldn't wear a swastika, the old Kaiser Wilhelm era emblems etc. There are some emblems I wouldn't wear because they are unfortunately associated with the far right.

Nor would I expect you to be in a bobby sands t-shirt, so, other than rejecting others rights to reject a symbol, I don't see what your problem is....

LordSutch · 18-01-2012 10:58PM

gurramok wrote: »

Ah now, you're getting carried away here. We can't eat boxers but we can eat chickens so why would we buy union jack boxers?

Well now, you could eat chickens wearing Union Jack boxers

Goodby & Goodnight.

Dudess · 18-01-2012 10:59PM

Nodin wrote: »

You haven't answered the question. Would you wear Republican symbols?

I don't think you're comparing like with like - the union jack isn't just about historical oppression. I personally associate it with mod culture.

LordSutch · 18-01-2012 11:03PM

Dudess wrote: »

I don't think you're comparing like with like - the union jack isn't just about historical oppression. I personally associate it with mod culture.

Indeed, my post was a reply aimed directly at Nodin.

Dyr · 18-01-2012 11:03PM

LordSutch wrote: »

The Union Flag is the flag of the United Kingdom, and as such it appears on items/produce made and/or produced in the UK. Food packaging, Car bodies, Van's & Lorries, Engines, Buses, Motorcycle frames, Bicycles, Clothing, Coats, Jackets, Knickers, Trainers, Bags, Shoes & Hats, you get the picture . . . It appears on many things that we in Ireland buy in the shops, and yet there are those here on this forum who will make an issue out of the fact that a UK flag label/sticker may be on a given product !!!

Oh look, there's a British flag/label on my boxers, 'Help', cut it off now, no feck it, don't buy it "WHY"? because its got a British Flag on the label

Emm, no people are saying that they wouldnt wear a union jack on their clothes, which is very different. I wouldn't wear lots of symbols including the union flag, a peace symbol, a nazi swastika, a soviet hammer and sickle, and american flag, a french flag, actually nearly any flag bar (pun) black flags' logo, a red poppy, edelweis, red ribbons, white ribbbons, blue/white/yellow wristbands, white/red/green laces in me docks because none of them are my gig. If they are your gig that's fine but don't go blaming other people when you're misunderstood for wearing it in the wrong place and context.

Nodin · 18-01-2012 11:05PM

Dudess wrote: »

I don't think you're comparing like with like - the union jack isn't just about historical oppression.
.......

...to some, it is. If you were a kenyan getting the shite knocked out of you in the 1950's, or some lad from Aden who lost people during their liberation struggle, you wouldn't necessarily have Paul Weller at the forefront of your mind when you saw it.

Dyr · 18-01-2012 11:06PM

Dudess wrote: »

I personally associate it with mod culture.

Thats f***king worse.

I see a nice shirt in a shop and I go "oh thats nice" then I see the ben shermen logo and my inner rocker kicks in and I drop it back on the rack in disgust. f****kin mods. Hairdryer riding posers :pac:

Dudess · 18-01-2012 11:07PM

Nodin wrote: »

Dudess wrote: »

I don't think you're comparing like with like - the union jack isn't just about historical oppression.
.......

...to some, it is. If you were a kenyan getting the s[SIZE="2"]hit[/SIZE]e knocked out of you in the 1950's, or some lad from Aden who lost people during their liberation struggle, you wouldn't necessarily have Paul Weller at the forefront of your mind when you saw it.

I know, it means different things to different people - hence I personally don't see an issue with it.
For me, the uj represents Britain - Britain represents too vast a cannon for me to narrow it down to one thing: historical oppression.

LordSutch · 18-01-2012 11:08PM

Bambi wrote: »

Emm, no people are saying that they wouldnt wear a union jack on their clothes, which is very different. I wouldn't wear lots of symbols including the union flag, a peace symbol, a nazi swastika, a soviet hammer and sickle, and american flag, a french flag, actually nearly any flag bar (pun) black flags' logo, a red poppy, edelweis, red ribbons, white ribbbons, blue/white/yellow wristbands, white/red/green laces in me docks because none of them are my gig. If they are your gig that's fine but don't go blaming other people when you're misunderstood for wearing it in the wrong place and context.

Dear Lord, I don't know where to start with this one^

All I'm saying to the OP is that I have a pair of Reebok Trainers, and they have a British flag badge on them, and that's cool by me. My wife has a shopping bag with a (deliberately) faded Union Jack Flag on it, and she's cool with that too . . . .

GOODNIGHT.

Nodin · 18-01-2012 11:09PM

LordSutch wrote: »

Dear Lord, I don't know where to start with this one^

All I'm saying to the OP is that I have a pair of Reebok Trainers, and they have a British flag badge on them, and that's cool by me. My wife has a shopping bag with a (deliberately) faded Union Jack Flag on it, and she's cool with that too . . . .

.

....and some people aren't. It's a shame you can't be 'cool' about them in similar fashion.

LordSutch · 18-01-2012 11:14PM

Post #89 was one of the posts which got me going . . . . .

GOODNIGHT, really Nodin, Goodnight . . . . . .

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A Dub in Glasgo · 18-01-2012 11:17PM

Never wear the butchers apron

Would you wear clothing with the British Flag on it?

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