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Defining Racism

  • 18-01-2012 02:28PM
    #1
    Ian64
    Closed Accounts Posts: 120 ✭✭


    A bit of a dispute arose on another thread as to what constitutes racism.
    To me any remark, or action that seeks to negativley portray, or grant less favourable treatment to any person or group because of their colour,creed, or nationality is essentially racist.
    I accept others have differing views and am only looking for a discussion on this, after all, I'm open to hearing how others percieve the term "Racist"


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  • #2
    Logical Fallacy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    The Oxford English Dictionary defines "racism" as : "Being a ****ing tool tbh"...which is the definition i tend to go with.


  • #3
    Sindri
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    Are you Jewish OP?

    EDIT

    Racism is usually predicated on an irrational fear or hatred of another race or culture.


  • #4
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    A negative prejudice based on someone's race.


  • #5
    KungPao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,796 ✭✭✭KungPao


    I believe it's being sexually attracted to all types of homosapiens.


  • #6
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Usain Bolt is one of the greatest racists ever.


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  • #7
    KungPao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,796 ✭✭✭KungPao


    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    Usain Bolt is one of the greatest racists ever.

    Why? because he is black?


  • #8
    Scanlas The 2nd
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Ian64 wrote: »
    A bit of a dispute arose on another thread as to what constitutes racism.
    To me any remark, or action that seeks to negativley portray, or grant less favourable treatment to any person or group because of their colour,creed, or nationality is essentially racist.
    I accept others have differing views and am only looking for a discussion on this, after all, I'm open to hearing how others percieve the term "Racist"

    Surely racism is determined moreso by your beliefs.

    You can call a black person a n1gger without actually being racist if your intentions are merely to get under that persons skin for example. You could have no racist beliefs whatsover but simply wish to piss off someone you hate. In fact in that circumstance by not using the most offensive insult (n1gger) you are being racist because you would have used the most offensive insult if they weren't black.


  • #9
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    I'll get back to you on this when Wikipedia is easy to use again.


  • #10
    Freddie59
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    Not ANOTHER "racism" thread!!!!:rolleyes:


  • #11
    chin_grin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    This is what infuriates me as stereotypes get labelled as racist remarks incorrectly.

    I have no examples I can give right now of course, but it may involve taxi drivers. (Opens can).


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  • #12
    Duggy747
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I'm not racist.

    I hate everyone equally.


  • #13
    fryup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    what if you're anti-jewish

    does that mean your racist or sectarian ?

    because Judaism is a religon and a race, isn't it?


  • #14
    Domitius Felix Invictus Aurelianus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭Domitius Felix Invictus Aurelianus


    Racism in the animal world according to Pliny the elder is defined simply by the standing of each of the species. Dogs do to bark at cats. Wolves do not wear sheep clothing. A white man is more visible after dark and so on.


  • #15
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Ian64 wrote: »
    To me any remark, or action that seeks to negativley portray, or grant less favourable treatment to any person or group because of their colour,creed, or nationality is essentially racist.

    That's racist.... it's not a colour, it's a skin tone! :P


  • #16
    Temptamperu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    Freddie59 wrote: »
    Not ANOTHER "racism" thread!!!!:rolleyes:
    Stop being Racist to Racism threads :mad:


  • #17
    Ian64
    Closed Accounts Posts: 120 ✭✭Ian64


    Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »
    Surely racism is determined moreso by your beliefs.

    You can call a black person a n1gger without actually being racist if your intentions are merely to get under that persons skin for example. You could have no racist beliefs whatsover but simply wish to piss off someone you hate. In fact in that circumstance by not using the most offensive insult (n1gger) you are being racist because you would have used the most offensive insult if they weren't black.
    Tell me you're not serious!


  • #18
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    44leto wrote: »
    A negative prejudice based on someone's race.

    Should be just a prejudice surely?
    What's not racist about the mobo awards for example. There is no way a wobo award would be tolerated.
    Bit of a double standard that really!


  • #19
    mongdesade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 330 ✭✭mongdesade


    There are arseholes of every race, creed, colour, sexual preference out their...
    I prefer to practice my rascism on a 1 to 1 basis...
    I have strong predudicial views on rascist arseholes :confused:


  • #20
    Ian64
    Closed Accounts Posts: 120 ✭✭Ian64


    Freddie59 wrote: »
    Not ANOTHER "racism" thread!!!!:rolleyes:
    No! This is a DEFINITION thread!


  • #21
    Frank Black
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    fryup wrote: »
    what if you're anti-jewish

    does that mean your racist or sectarian ?

    because Judaism is a religon and a race, isn't it?


    And a nationality since 1948.


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  • #22
    Scanlas The 2nd
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Ian64 wrote: »
    Tell me you're not serious!

    Explain how it is necessarily racist to call a black person a n1gger.

    Calling a black any name simply because they are black is racist. Calling a black person a n1gger because you hate them isn't. Hating them because they are black is racist.


  • #23
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »
    Surely racism is determined moreso by your beliefs.

    You can call a black person a n1gger without actually being racist if your intentions are merely to get under that persons skin for example. You could have no racist beliefs whatsover but simply wish to piss off someone you hate. In fact in that circumstance by not using the most offensive insult (n1gger) you are being racist because you would have used the most offensive insult if they weren't black.


    Exactly.
    I listen to a good bit of rap music and it's all nígger this and nígger that. Is that racist? If not, why is it racist if i say it?

    As they say, offence is taken not given. I'm not racist but if jay-z calls himself a nígger, then that's what he is and that's what i'll call him. He can call me a paddy and i won't cry about it. That seems fair to me.


  • #24
    Logical Fallacy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Ian64 wrote: »
    Tell me you're not serious!

    What he, is spot on!


  • #25
    fryup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    black francis wrote: »
    And a nationality since 1948.

    but being an isreali doesn't mean your automatically jewish, there's arabs and christains who are isreali too


  • #26
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »
    Surely racism is determined moreso by your beliefs.

    You can call a black person a n1gger without actually being racist if your intentions are merely to get under that persons skin for example. You could have no racist beliefs whatsover but simply wish to piss off someone you hate. In fact in that circumstance by not using the most offensive insult (n1gger) you are being racist because you would have used the most offensive insult if they weren't black.

    Or the Luis Suarez defence as I call it.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #27
    Domitius Felix Invictus Aurelianus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭Domitius Felix Invictus Aurelianus


    Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »
    Explain how it is necessarily racist to call a black person a n1gger.


    The word is Niger and as far as im concerned is not derogatory but simply a way of defining were a person hails from such as a predecessor of mine Pescennius Niger


  • #28
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    K-9 wrote: »
    Or the Luis Suarez defence as I call it.

    Yea, worked well for him if i recall correctly!


    Note to self: Get new racism defence asap


  • #29
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Domitius Pius Felix Invictus Aurelianus wrote: »
    The word is Niger and as far as im concerned is not derogatory but simply a way of defining were a person hails from such as a predecessor of mine Pescennius Niger

    ....that should go down as well as the 'Claiming Porch Monkey back' campaign.


  • #30
    The King of Moo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    sbsquarepants wrote: »
    Exactly.
    I listen to a good bit of rap music and it's all nígger this and nígger that. Is that racist? If not, why is it racist if i say it?

    As they say, offence is taken not given. I'm not racist but if jay-z calls himself a nígger, then that's what he is and that's what i'll call him. He can call me a paddy and i won't cry about it. That seems fair to me.

    It would most likely be perceived as racist if you called a black person an iggernay, because most white people who've used the word have used it in a very racist way (even if you didn't mean it that way) and most black people hearing a white person use the word would assume it was being used in a racist way.

    Though I don't see how a white person can call a black persona an iggernay without meaning it in a racist way, unless it's a black friend you kid around with regularly in such a manner.


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  • #31
    Ellis Dee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee


    I remember a horse opera starring John Wayne, who was no liberal by any stretch of the imagination, but spoke the lines the scriptwriters gave him.

    In it he said: "Racism is hating in the plural.":)

    If you have to hate people, do it one-on-one and always for a reason attributable to that individual.:D:D


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