Celtic FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2011/2012

Dempsey wrote: »

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

Maybe i should have put a wee smiley face so you could see the sarcasm in the post then. :rolleyes:

The same word repeated a few times in this is 'perceived'. It's taken long enough for so called experts and jobsworths to decide what is and what isn't sectarian over in Scotland just now, and many of them are still at a loss. Think as far as they've got so far is don't call each other huns and fenians, (though you can call yourselfs it if you want) and to be fair I think that has followed suit in the threads which is a compliment to all the posters in here and next door So apart from me calling someone a 'hun', how else will you or someone else decide that what i'm saying is bigotted or sectarian?? If i decide to talk about Celtic's history and heritage and roots in Ireland, will that be termed in the good or bad? Not everyone will agree with it and say well you're a Scottish club. If someone comes back and says your a 'plastic Paddy', is his response to my post going to be moved to the other thread???

You mean well and good luck Dempsey, we'll agree to disagree though.

PS, This isn't just to you Dempsey, I'm asking this to anyone else who might be able to give some clues as to where a new thread for such a matter will take us. If everyone else is all for it then I understand wholly.
Is everyone else for it???

Ah, I see!

It takes quite a few posts for people to establish what they believe to be sectarian/bigotted and by then several people can be posting and 20-100 posts could go by without a mention of football. I just think a thread to facilitate that discussion properly rather than it happening across 2 threads would be better.

Again, all of that hasnt been discussed or thrashed out. It hasnt gotten to that stage yet. But my thinking would be:-

If a discussion descends into discussing sectarianism/bigotry, a moderator can use his discretion whether to lock the thread whilst moving the conversation over the other thread, let it run its course then move it, or in some cases just leave it be. A mod will know the minute he looks at where the conversation is going.

People that attempt to 'snipe' in either of the the superthreads about sectarian/bigoted incidents rather than going to the thread would be the ones that would get the moderators wrath imo.

Isn't it kinda ironic that possibly 20-100 posts have gone by here without much mention of football, because a discussion of sectarianism is going on? Why don't you start another thread on it and get a general consensus??
If you can, will you also tell me what Sectarian acts Celtic and their fans are involved in. We are in the Celtic thread after all.

How dare rival fans 'snipe' at eachother, now we're going to suffer the wrath of a moderator.

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

Isn't it kinda ironic that possibly 20-100 posts have gone by here without much mention of football, because a discussion of sectarianism is going on? Why don't you start another thread on it and get a general consensus??
If you can, will you also tell me what Sectarian acts Celtic and their fans are involved in. We are in the Celtic thread after all.

How dare rival fans 'snipe' at eachother, now we're going to suffer the wrath of a moderator.

Ah thats right the Tic fans are all angels not a sectarian slur in sight. I have never been on the recieving end of chants from these angels :rolleyes:

bobbysands81 wrote: »

'Hun' is not sectarian (if it was then how come you guys used to call us the 'huns'? and how come every other team in Scotland calls you guys 'huns'?)

Orangeism is not a religion.

Bobby calling us Orange Bastards is sectarian as the OO is part of the Protestant faith
As for Hun I proved it was and still is sectarian after the last Rangers Celtic game but you decided to ignore it

Also if it was only us you called huns then just maybe you could get away with it but the fact you use the term against Hearts and Kilmarnock fans as well puts an end to that

If you don't believe me go and shout at a Scottish policeman that Rangers fans are huns you will soon see if its sectarian or not

bobbysands81 wrote: »

I'm still working on that mate - I think I said I'd get you info in the New Year... maybe it's time for me to put up or shut up so!:D

I'll try and find it and post it here today!

All you need to do is go into that thread I posted the relevant article mate

PauloMN wrote: »

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Bobby calling us Orange Bastards is sectarian as the OO is part of the Protestant faith

Wrong way around - the OO is not part of the Protestant faith BBE. Being Protestant is simply an entry requirement to the OO.

The OO is a disgrace to Protestantism.

(That's my last on the matter, sorry I should have posted it in the other thread).

Why didn't you just delete it before clicking 'post'? By other thread does that mean there is now a new thread up and running??
If I wanted to bring up rangers fans singing about Celtic Boys Club at the recent Celtic rangers game would that go in here, next door or the new sectarian thread?

Check this out,

Nakamura hits free kick into a moving bus,

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

Sorry for asking questions about something. If not done properly then it will fall at first hurdle, so am only asking questions that i would have doubts about.
Again, where would the talk about the chef or tax case go? Isn't the tax case ultimately about the football??

On field - this thread - Superthread Celtic FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2011/2012 - football / Player related

Off field - new thread - Superthread Celtic / Rangers - off field Matters - Tax / Singing etc.

Will this work?

celticbest wrote: »

On field - this thread - Superthread Celtic FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2011/2012 - football / Player related

Off field - new thread - Superthread Celtic / Rangers - off field Matters - Tax / Singing etc.

Will this work?

If off-field though and only about tax, singing etc, should it be in the soccer forum?

Dempsey wrote: »

I'm well aware of that, there is no point in having a consensus if the moderators wont even consider it. I was waiting for their feedback before doing anything else. I had no intention of clogging up this thread with a discussion about it.

EDIT

I'm only after noticing the thread there now.

/slow sarcastic clap

Now you see it, now you don't. Who locked it and why??

http://www.celticfc.net/newsstory?item=2026
Stokes ready for Saints' trip
By: Laura Brannan on 18 Jan, 2012 09:53
THE last time Celtic took on St Mirren, they recorded the highest scoring victory of their season so far, but Anthony Stokes, who speaks exclusively in this week’s Celtic View, isn’t expecting five goals again on Saturday.

This time the Hoops travel to Paisley for the clash against Danny Lennon’s side and if the last two away games are anything to go by, it will be a tight and nervy meeting.

A last-minute strike by Gary Hooper sealed the points in 2010, while two early goals by the same man secured the win earlier this season, despite an extremely spirited Saints display in the last 80 minutes.

Stokes is looking forward to the battle nonetheless and hopes to join his strike partner in the scoring this time.

The Irish striker told the View: “It’s always a tough game against St Mirren, especially away from home.

“Last year we had to wait until the 90th minute or so to get the winner. They are usually well-organised and we’ll have to be on top form to get a result against them again.

“I’ve not scored against St Mirren so that would be another box to tick off if I was to get a goal, but that’s not the important thing, we have to just make sure we get the three points firstly.”

And one player Stokes knows Celtic will have to be wary of is former-Hoops youngster and December Player of the Month, Paul McGowan.

“I wasn’t here when he was at Celtic but I’ve seen him play and I know he is a good player,” he said. “He scored against Rangers too but hopefully he won’t do the same against us.”

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

Now you see it, now you don't. Who locked it and why??

I knew a thread would be locked, I knew that knives would come out from those who dont like Celtic/Rangers/SPL and they would be doing their best to derail a thread created out of the blue. Thats why I contacted the moderators first for their feedback before trying to get a general consensus with other posters. They need to be the ones setting the thread up and outlining the rules (whatever gets decided) with that thread to make it work. I think I stated my intended approach about 5+ times at this stage.

You and celticbest clearly are intent on undermining the idea and my approach. I couldnt give a **** what happens now, I've better things to be doing.

Dempsey wrote: »

I knew a thread would be locked, I knew that knives would come out from those who dont like Celtic/Rangers/SPL and they would be doing their best to derail a thread created out of the blue. Thats why I contacted the moderators first for their feedback before trying to get a general consensus with other posters. They need to be the ones setting the thread up and outlining the rules (whatever gets decided) with that thread to make it work. I think I stated my intended approach about 5+ times at this stage.

You and celticbest clearly are intent on undermining the idea and my approach. I couldnt give a **** what happens now, I've better things to be doing.

What other forum do you have to ask a mod can you open a thread in?? The Soccer forum is way over the Top!

:rolleyes: Blame me if you want, I couldn't give a ****....

Dempsey wrote: »

I knew a thread would be locked, I knew that knives would come out from those who dont like Celtic/Rangers/SPL and they would be doing their best to derail a thread created out of the blue. Thats why I contacted the moderators first for their feedback before trying to get a general consensus with other posters. They need to be the ones setting the thread up and outlining the rules (whatever gets decided) with that thread to make it work. I think I stated my intended approach about 5+ times at this stage.

You and celticbest clearly are intent on undermining the idea and my approach. I couldnt give a **** what happens now, I've better things to be doing.

I don't know celticbest, and whatever you think he's upto then carry on. I have no intention to undermine your approach; what I've said is I disagree with it, mainly as I don't know if I'm going to get into trouble/sanctioned/warned/banned if I start talking about 'the chef' or the tax case but I put it in the Rangers thread rather then the new one. They aren't sectarian issues (well is the chef??) but still something that is out in the open to be discussed. I said in an earlier post to you that I wish you well with it, but it's not for me.