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Say you invented a free energy source, how long before you get "taken out" ?

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  • #32
    Waylon Wrong Cilantro
    Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Waylon Wrong Cilantro


    i'd be torn between wanting to be a trillionaire and putting the plans across the net so everyone would have them


  • #33
    Mackman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭Mackman


    I would do a choice of 2 things:

    1. Compile a giant e-mail, with all the technical plans and info, and send it in one go to all the Universities, labs, sciency places in the world. Yeah id be giving it away free, but hopefully the benefit to the world would be payment enough.

    or

    2. Keep it quiet, and make a meeting with just 1 company. Tell them if they give me 100,000,000euro they can have it exclusively.

    More chance of getting killed with option 2, but there's the money too, tough one


  • #34
    Joeface
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,924 ✭✭✭Joeface


    Seriously you wouldn't make it even to sketching it down on paper.

    your laptop reads your thoughts , they know before you do .

    just ask Jim Corr.


  • #35
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    bluewolf wrote: »
    i'd be torn between wanting to be a trillionaire and putting the plans across the net so everyone would have them

    You'd still be a rich person from it I reckon. The talk shows circuit, innovation prizes, and wealthy benefactors would look after such a noble person imho.


  • #36
    Fear Uladh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 810 ✭✭✭Fear Uladh


    You would be branded a terrorist and assassinated.


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  • #37
    Sindri
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    Thread would be better if it was how would you kill the person who invented it and steal their idea.


  • #38
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    You'd still be a rich person from it I reckon. The talk shows circuit, innovation prizes, and wealthy benefactors would look after such a noble person imho.

    Good point - and that brings up another aspect.
    Some countries might not have the tech people to do what you have done - so they might just kidnap you to reproduce the process for themselves!

    North Korea has a history of kidnapping such people! True!
    * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_abductions_of_Japanese_citizens
    * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_abductions_of_South_Koreans

    If they can't do it - look out! :pac:


  • #39
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Well nothing has happened to these lads yet.

    http://www.steorn.com/steorn/

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin//showthread.php?t=2056224813


  • #40
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,589 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Forget free power, it's been done.

    Come back and talk if you can make a zero maintenance device (no moving parts, service interval at least 25 years) that can produce free power with a capital cost of less than one watt per dollar. Oh yeah and it's got to be 17% cheaper next year.

    And 17% cheaper every year for at least a decade.




    Solar power IS down to one dollar a watt. ( $2 a watt retail delivered in the US if you go bargain hunting )
    The downside is that the control systems, land and connections to the grid cost as much as the panels. And they don't work at night.






    The big challenge is cheap energy storage.
    If you can make something that can store one unit of electricity per $10 capital cost then we need to talk.


    If you can make a lighter, cheaper battery than Lead-Acid it's game over for petrol engines. Lead is heavy and expensive. Lead acid batteries have the second lowest energy density of any battery in use today , so it should not be that big a challenge to produce something better.

    Hint: Lead has an atomic weight of 207 , Aluminium's is 27


  • #41
    phasers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    I breed genetically modified hamsters , they're powering this computer right now


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  • #42
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    No such thing as free energy, in this forum we obey the laws of thermodynamics

    I agree the OP should be banned for even suggesting such a contravention.


  • #43
    ygolometsipe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭ygolometsipe


    free energy ? royalties :)

    you mean free to the inventor not the public.


  • #44
    Temptamperu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    I watched a documentary about Gas (petrol) in the US and a fella built a car engine that got 80miles to the gallon. He was found dead on the side of the road. That was in the 60s.


  • #45
    Liam Byrne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,152 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Nothingbetter2d wrote: »
    chin_grin wrote: »
    Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it's merely converted from one state to another.

    Oh wait, cost wise? Yeah, it'd be taxed. :pac:

    lol imagine everytime the sun shined esb sending you a "guestimated bill"

    In Ireland ? I'd say you'd be safe enough.

    Some interesting stats here re what can be achieved though :

    http://www.fuelacademy.com/world_record_drives.html


  • #46
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,589 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Temptamperu wrote: »
    I watched a documentary about Gas (petrol) in the US and a fella built a car engine that got 80miles to the gallon. He was found dead on the side of the road. That was in the 60s.
    Ford Model T had a better fuel economy than current US average car.
    http://www.gizmag.com/volvo-v60-plug-in-hybrid-diesel-geneva/17712/
    Volvo will introduce a "virtually production-ready" plug-in hybrid version of it's V60 sports wagon at the upcoming Geneva Motor Show. Expected to hit showroom floors in 2012, the hybrid V60 splices together a 2.4-liter D5 turbodiesel driving the front wheels with a 70 horsepower electric motor at the rear axle. According to Volvo this configuration delivers incredibly miserly fuel consumption of 124 mpg (1.9 l/100 km) along with the ability to cover 31 miles (50 km) using only the electric drive.

    The 2.4-liter D5 turbodiesel driving the front wheels produces 215 horsepower and maximum torque of 440 Nm while the ERAD (Electric Rear Axle Drive) is fed by a 12 kWh lithium-ion battery pack.

    Carbon dioxide emissions are slated at below 50 g/km.


  • #47
    tigger123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,815 ✭✭✭tigger123


    There was a guy on a Horizon documentary about 10 minutes ago on BBC2, showing how he could make actual diesel (not some substitute) out of sugar and genetic engineering.


  • #48
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Lizzybet wrote: »
    I am not wearing a coat. i don't believe in wearing too much:)

    That's a questionable stance to take in the chilly airs of Ireland.


  • #49
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    tigger123 wrote: »
    There was a guy on a Horizon documentary about 10 minutes ago on BBC2, showing how he could make actual diesel (not some substitute) out of sugar and genetic engineering.

    yeah but it takes energy to make it, so its not free. Just a different source.


  • #50
    Rhyme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭Rhyme


    Just breed some dinosaurs, bury them in a bog and wait for the coal and oil to come rolling back in.

    Duh.


  • #51
    Rabies
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,257 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    Nothingbetter2d wrote: »
    solar and wind energy is free

    but harnessing and distributing it is not


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  • #52
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    i'm sure we could hook something up to cyclists to get free energy.Maybe then they'll obey the traffic lights since they're physically "paying" for them to be lit.


  • #53
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    I'm pretty sure if you invented something that put the oil industries billionaires in trouble you'd almost certainly be a dead man.


  • #54
    Archeron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭Archeron


    Whats the collective term for a group of oligarchs? Funny thing, I probably spelled oligarchs wrong, and my phone suggested I may be trying to write 'lizards'.


  • #55
    Lone Stone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Lone Stone


    What i would do is still charge people for my free energy that way i could pay my way out of anything by under cutting every other power/energy supplier huzzah & make some cold fusion bomb and plant it inside my chest like iron man's metal chest vagina and rig it to blow if i die.


  • #56
    bleg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,847 ✭✭✭bleg


    We should be investing in thorium nuclear power plants.


  • #57
    the_syco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,310 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Make it a weapon, and sell it to the USA. And then it won't go away so quickly :D


  • #58
    _AVALANCHE_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭_AVALANCHE_


    Didn't Tesla make some sort of machine which created a field/wave that powered everything that ran on electricity for miles??


  • #59
    DB21
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭DB21


    Alright, who let the conspiracy theorist out of his cage???


  • #60
    cloptrop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭cloptrop


    Ah but think of it this way , if the oil companies lost their power , who would be in charge then , would you really be saving the world?
    What if the terminator came back and showed you that your company lets call it skynet or something similar caused terrible trouble in the future, would you then hold a detonator in a room full of explosives after being shot whilst breathing heavily until the police came in and blow them up so the terminator could escape, or would you think you were so smart you were going to invent another way to save the world from your invention .
    After all the eskimos are finding it very hard to hunt seal these days with all the global warming allegedly,and yet they still wear very heavy coats , why dont they just put a t shirt on and catch rabbits, they dont have to live in the snow anymore , its like being kicked in the arse for ten thousand years then the kicker gets a sore foot and thinking " this is **** my whole way of life is ruined"


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  • #61
    Samich
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭Samich


    I bet a lot of peeps haven't ever seen one of these babies.

    Amazing piece of work.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pdqDQwehlk


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