Conditions in limerick prison

wendell borton · 17-01-2012 10:17PM #1

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0117/limerickprison.html
Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time.

Einhard · 17-01-2012 10:18PM

wendell borton wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0117/limerickprison.html
Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time.

Alternatively: If you treat people like animals, don't be surprised if they act like animals.

admiralofthefleet · 17-01-2012 10:18PM

at least its better than life in limerick on the outside

IcedOut · 17-01-2012 10:19PM

Thats Limerick citaay

Praetorian Saighdiuir · 17-01-2012 10:20PM

Im more alarmed at the amount of hospitals that are dirty and unhygienic.

wintersolstice · 17-01-2012 10:22PM

they would never put the money they are taking out of hospitals and schools into limerick prison......................would they?

fedor.2. · 17-01-2012 10:22PM

Good

Sindri · 17-01-2012 10:23PM

No but they have shampoo.

telekon · 17-01-2012 10:23PM

Shur god love 'em. Its still cleaner than the rat holes they came from...

bbam · 17-01-2012 10:24PM

Einhard wrote: »

Alternatively: If you treat people like animals, don't be surprised if they act like animals.

No, No, No...
This is not the chicken and the egg quandary... They're in there because they broke the law, they're not breaking the law because the prison is sh1t..

We shouldn't worry so much about what life on the inside is like but rather that people don't get sent down for soft crimes like TV license etc..

So what's the solution ??
Bigger rooms, wider screens, softer bunks, xbox and play station ??

Immaculate Pasta · 17-01-2012 10:27PM

You've got to feel sorry for the prisoners if the conditions in prison are up to scratch. It leads you to question whether it's even worth of bother of murdering somebody anymore

Guill · 17-01-2012 10:27PM

Einhard wrote: »

Alternatively: If you treat people like animals, don't be surprised if they act like animals.

^^^WTF???

If people act like animals, threat them like animals.

Einhard · 17-01-2012 10:28PM

bbam wrote: »

No, No, No...
This is not the chicken and the egg quandary... They're in there because they broke the law, they're not breaking the law because the prison is sh1t..

We shouldn't worry so much about what life on the inside is like but rather that people don't get sent down for soft crimes like TV license etc..

So what's the solution ??
Bigger rooms, wider screens, softer bunks, xbox and play station ??

Call me crazy, but I believe that most people have the capacity to change, and prisons should be both a place that punishes people for their crimes, and seeks to rehabilitate them if possible. Rehabilitation, which benefits society in the long run, can't occur if we treat people like animals. Your way would see a prisoner released after ten years with no change in his outlook; my way wouldat least allow the possibility of his having changed his ways. But no, better to wallow in tabloid outrage and the cheap satisfaction that that brings, than actually think about the situation and address it.

IM0 · 17-01-2012 10:29PM

if this is the part of the prison where the DANGEROUS prisoners are kept, then fair play. if there are people in those sections for just fines and silly things though

fedor.2. · 17-01-2012 10:30PM

Einhard wrote: »

Call me crazy, but I believe that most people have the capacity to change, and prisons should be both a place that punishes people for their crimes, and seeks to rehabilitate them if possible. Rehabilitation, which benefits society in the long run, can't occur if we treat people like animals. Your way would see a prisoner released after ten years with no change in his outlook; my way wouldat least allow the possibility of his having changed his ways. But no, better to wallow in tabloid outrage and the cheap satisfaction that that brings, than actually think about the situation and address it.

You're crazy

Einhard · 17-01-2012 10:30PM

Guill wrote: »

^^^WTF???

If people act like animals, threat them like animals.

Firstly: not all prisoners acted like animals.

Secondly, treating them as such precludes any possibility of positive change. So the prisoner comes out as he came in. How the hell does that benefit anybody?

The Express · 17-01-2012 10:31PM

F*** 'em.

Mr.Crinklewood · 17-01-2012 10:31PM

"Limerick Prison" is an anagram of:-

"Lick Rim Or Penis"

LH Pathe · 17-01-2012 10:32PM

Ideal conditions for breedin bad ass rappurz that experience'll put words in their mouth fo shiz .. Fire in their bellyz. Nurturing the arts 21st century style

IM0 · 17-01-2012 10:33PM

Einhard wrote: »

Call me crazy, but I believe that most people have the capacity to change, and prisons should be both a place that punishes people for their crimes, and seeks to rehabilitate them if possible. Rehabilitation, which benefits society in the long run, can't occur if we treat people like animals. Your way would see a prisoner released after ten years with no change in his outlook; my way wouldat least allow the possibility of his having changed his ways. But no, better to wallow in tabloid outrage and the cheap satisfaction that that brings, than actually think about the situation and address it.

give us some examples of the kinds of people you are talking about here and what they have done to end up in prison.

Einhard · 17-01-2012 10:33PM

:mad::mad::cool::pac:

fedor.2. wrote: »

You're crazy

woop woop

:rolleyes::(:eek:

fedor.2. · 17-01-2012 10:33PM

Einhard wrote: »

Firstly: not all prisoners acted like animals.

Secondly, treating them as such precludes any possibility of positive change. So the prisoner comes out as he came in. How the hell does that benefit anybody?

Perhaps if you became a victim of crime whilst on your hug a thug adventures you would have a different attitude

Guill · 17-01-2012 10:34PM

Einhard wrote: »

Firstly: not all prisoners acted like animals.

Secondly, treating them as such precludes any possibility of positive change. So the prisoner comes out as he came in. How the hell does that benefit anybody?

Exactly, they should not come out. Agreed.

WindSock · 17-01-2012 10:34PM

bbam wrote: »

No, No, No...
This is not the chicken and the egg quandary... They're in there because they broke the law, they're not breaking the law because the prison is sh1t..

Many are recidivist offenders because they are dehumanised by the system and have little incentives inside or out to live a life within the law.

fedor.2. · 17-01-2012 10:35PM

WindSock wrote: »

Many are recidivist offenders because they are dehumanised by the system and have little incentives inside or out to live a life within the law.

Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows indeed

Einhard · 17-01-2012 10:36PM

fedor.2. wrote: »

Perhaps if you became a victim of crime whilst on your hug a thug adventures you would have a different attitude

Perhaps if you actually read my posts and weren't so quick to resort to tabloid exaggeration you might have a different attitude.

Einhard · 17-01-2012 10:37PM

Guill wrote: »

Exactly, they should not come out. Agreed.

So...nobody who has ever been imprisoned should ever be released? Right...

Sometimes it seems that the rightwing looney nutjob wing of the Republican party would have a better natural constituency right here on AH than in even the most conservative states in America!

Guill · 17-01-2012 10:37PM

WindSock wrote: »

Many are recidivist offenders because they are dehumanised by the system and have little incentives inside or out to live a life within the law.

I would have thought that NOT going to a prison where they are treated like animals would be incentive.

Maybe we should raise the standard of the prison so they all have cushy cells with TV and Xbox and great food, maybe even regular parties and sports days, that'll be incentive for them.

Sindri · 17-01-2012 10:38PM

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

"Limerick Prison" is an anagram of:-

"Lick Rim Or Penis"

You sir are a modern day prophet.

Guill · 17-01-2012 10:38PM

Exactly, they should not come out. Agreed.

Einhard wrote: »

So...nobody who has ever been imprisoned should ever be released? Right...

Fixed my post...

Chuck Stone · 17-01-2012 10:38PM

The state still has a duty of care to prisoners AFAIK. It serves the interests of nobody that prisoners be kept in squalor.

If a prisoner gets ill from the conditions then it will fall back on the tax-payer to make him better again adding to the cost of incarceration.

So to the people saying 'let them rot' I say open your wallet and shut your mouth.

Conditions in limerick prison

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