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Claire Byrne: ''Obesity is a symptom of poverty''

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,146 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    biko wrote: »
    She's not. Poor Lazy stupid people tend to buy cheap fast food rather than healthy veggies and other things.
    They also tend to exercise less.
    Hence the obesity.

    FYP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭I am a friend


    She is wrong because obesity is a symptom of laziness (with the exception of the 0.001% of people with a thyroid problem)... Lazy people can be poor or rich....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭Gurgle


    hondasam wrote: »
    Poor people do not have access to fresh fruits and vegetables. People are not starving, but they are “food insecure.” If the only food available/affordable is fried foods, cheap /junk etc, then that is obviously what people are going to eat.
    Bullshìt.
    Ever been to a supermarket?
    Fruit & Veg is the cheapest way to eat.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,183 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Gurgle wrote: »
    Bullshìt.
    Ever been to a supermarket?
    Fruit & Veg is the cheapest way to eat.

    Yeah, but it has to be cooked with attention given to it.

    Much easier to stick a frozen pizza on the oven for 20 mins.

    Obesity is a symptom of laziness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Veg ain't the quickest or easiest to cook since it requires at least 1 "give-a-fùck" to do. Hence why they buy all the fatty, processed shìt like pizzas and other oven stuff.

    Obesity does come in all forms, rich or poor.


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  • Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    She sounds like your regular dumb broad running her mouth after watching a documentary on netflix.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,113 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    Claire Byrne: ''Obesity is a symptom of poverty''

    Poverty in early childhood where other siblings are involved might be easily be a factor. Her comment is worthy of being researched.

    The Forum on Spirituality has been closed for years. Please bring it back, there are lots of Spiritual people in Ireland and elsewhere.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Gurgle wrote: »
    Bullshìt.
    Ever been to a supermarket?
    Fruit & Veg is the cheapest way to eat.

    Couldn't agree more. I bought two pieces of lambs liver over the weekend which cost 75 cent and two lambs kidneys for 80 cent. That's some of the most nutritious food you can eat. You can buy half a kilo of mince for a few euro. Vegetables are cheap too. Fresh fish isn't even that dear, you can get a fillet of salmon for 2 euro.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,796 ✭✭✭KungPao


    I bought a good sized chicken, some rooster potatoes and carrots for around €7.50. Cooked the chicken on saturday evening, started eating that night and have eaten some every day since. Just finished off the last of it with some homemade tomato sauce and cheap pasta.

    That's a lot of (fairly healthy) eating for less than a tenner all together.

    Laziness and ignorance is the cause of obesity in most cases IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭mariano rivera


    Lapin wrote: »
    Yeah, but it has to be cooked with attention given to it.

    Much easier to stick a frozen pizza on the oven for 20 mins.

    Obesity is a symptom of laziness.

    I think there is a touch of stupidity aswell

    You see these FAT programmes Operation Transfatformation or whatever

    "I have just lt myself go, the last while"

    "Oh, I am 19 stone! That s a shock"

    Like, what happened when they were 14 stone or 16 stone

    Did 6 stone of blubber creep up on them one night and attach itself to these people?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Gurgle wrote: »
    Bullshìt.
    Ever been to a supermarket?
    Fruit & Veg is the cheapest way to eat.

    Yes I have, fruit is not that cheap imo.
    Couldn't agree more. I bought two pieces of lambs liver over the weekend which cost 75 cent and two lambs kidneys for 80 cent. That's some of the most nutritious food you can eat. You can buy half a kilo of mince for a few euro. Vegetables are cheap too. Fresh fish isn't even that dear, you can get a fillet of salmon for 2 euro.

    Everything is cheap if you are only buying for one or two people.
    Buying for a family is a bit different.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    Couldn't agree more. I bought two pieces of lambs liver over the weekend which cost 75 cent and two lambs kidneys for 80 cent. That's some of the most nutritious food you can eat. You can buy half a kilo of mince for a few euro. Vegetables are cheap too. Fresh fish isn't even that dear, you can get a fillet of salmon for 2 euro.

    Yes but it takes time to cook and prepare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    If she slightly reworded it, it would make more sense.

    "Obesity is a symptom of eating too much".

    Alternatively, if there are any Sheldon Coopers reading:

    "Obesity is a symptom of regularly consuming food with a caloric content greater than that required for sustenance".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭mariano rivera


    hondasam wrote: »
    Yes I have, fruit is not that cheap imo.



    Everything is cheap if you are only buying for one or two people.
    Buying for a family is a bit different.

    NOPE

    More value in buying for more people

    Less waste


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,796 ✭✭✭KungPao


    hondasam wrote: »
    Yes I have, fruit is not that cheap imo.
    .

    Fresh wexford strawberries or preprepared fruit salads are pricey but come on...apples and bananas in Lidl?

    Cheap as...err.. chips.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Obviously people on both ends of the scale can be obese. But poorer areas have more obese people, and more fast food take aways also. This is old news that I though everyone was aware of this years ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭mariano rivera


    Sindri wrote: »
    Yes but it takes time to cook and prepare.

    What do you do that you don't have time to cook food?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,488 ✭✭✭Yahew


    hondasam wrote: »
    Yes I have, fruit is not that cheap imo.


    Everything is cheap if you are only buying for one or two people.
    Buying for a family is a bit different.

    The opposite is true, The cost scales down per person as ingredients are cheaper in bulk. Its costlier to cook for one. A singleton is occasionally justified in getting a ready made mealin terms of cost, but not a couple


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    NOPE

    More value in buying for more people

    Less waste

    Is that your excuse?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    What do you do that you don't have time to cook food?

    Not me, but for the socially less well off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Saw a programme about the obesity crisis in the slums of Buenos Aires and the poor rural Deep South.
    Poverty can be a causal factor in obesity, but I disagree obesity is a symptom of poverty. Plenty of obese people are not impoverished.
    Processed foods can be cheap though. And lack of education re nutrition doesn't help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭mariano rivera


    Obviously people on both ends of the scale can be obese. But poorer areas have more obese people, and more fast food take aways also. This is old news that I though everyone was aware of years ago.


    I get it

    its a ghetto analogy


    In the US, they say we have high crime in ghetto because of the Liquor Stores and Gun Shops

    In Ireland, we is fat cause we got them Chippers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    LeighH wrote: »
    If she slightly reworded it, it would make more sense.

    "Obesity is a symptom of eating too much".

    Alternatively, if there are any Sheldon Coopers reading:

    "Obesity is a symptom of regularly consuming food with a caloric content greater than that required for sustenance".
    Sheldon cooper? oh wait thats... :( Leave... now... and never return.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭EL_Loco


    you can eat in a fast food place and walk away. If you cook at home you need a cooker, a pot, electricity, plates, cutlery, the means to clean them (maybe a dishwasher) more electricity there, and so forth.

    I saw an analysts review of it (typical, can't find it now) but it put the cost of a home cooked meal above the cost of a McDonald's meal.

    Add a bit of ignorance, laziness, mild depression, poor food quality your whole life, domino's pizza ads before the simpsons, and well, you're fooked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭mariano rivera


    Sindri wrote: »
    Not me, but for the socially less well off.

    ROYSH


    THE SOCIALLY LESS WELL OFF


    LMAO !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,796 ✭✭✭KungPao


    Dudess wrote: »
    Saw a programme about the obesity crisis in the slums of Buenos Aires and the poor rural Deep South.
    Poverty can be a causal factor in obesity, but I disagree obesity is a symptom of poverty. Plenty of obese people are not impoverished.
    Processed foods can be cheap though. And lack of education re nutrition doesn't help.

    I saw one about Argentina too, where this woman deep-fried PASTA and drank obscene amounts of Coca Cola.

    She must have spent half her meagre budget on soft drinks. Crazy stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    ROYSH


    THE SOCIALLY LESS WELL OFF


    LMAO !

    Your the one called Mariano Rivera?

    BTW I'm from Kildare.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    While obesity can be a sign of many things it doesn't mean it isn't a specific symptom of being poor. She's correct in what she's saying. People that aren't well off do have poorer diets and it does show.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    I agree with her and I am pretty sure there is research that says the same.

    A lot of places where there is poverty have few supermarkets and as a result are know as food deserts. Effectively people without cars can only shop in the local shops which means they can only get high fat foods.

    There is also an education level which basically says if you live in poverty you are baddly educated and don't understand how to cook or what to eat to stay healthy.

    The shop near work I see people do their main shopping there which essentially is highly processed fatty foods. It is an area of poverty and there is definitely more obese people living around there.


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