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Pushing my boundaries and making my physio rich...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭tHE vAGGABOND


    the kinvara rock and road race
    Im doiing that too, as a half before the Marathon in Paris :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭tHE vAGGABOND


    A chilly 8k around town this morning, getting it done before work this morning..

    Around 43 to 44 minutes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭tHE vAGGABOND


    NYE : 13k in 1 Hour and 10 mins odd

    Good end to the year...

    Today : slow 5k recovery / leg loosner


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭tHE vAGGABOND


    Woke early, so did my run this morning..

    Just short of 10k around town in just under 56 minutes odd


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭tHE vAGGABOND


    8k - only had 45 mins, so squeezed in what I could


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭tHE vAGGABOND


    7k+ early morning jaunt around town


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,765 ✭✭✭✭namenotavailablE


    Sorry to jump in- feel free to remove/ delete if this is out of order. Here's my story:

    I ran my first marathon in Limerick 2011 as part of a 'try get fitter and/or lose some [bl**dy] weight' effort. The experience was positive (especially the part about losing 16 pounds) so I ran the Dublin 2011 marathon, losing another 18 pounds in the process. I was down to 172 pounds after Dublin.
    My times were decidedly unimpressive by the standards I read about here in other Boards marathon related threads but are on the right trajectory: 4 hours 41 for Limerick then 4 hours 16 in Dublin. I'm aiming for (as close as possible to) sub-4 hours for Limerick 2011.
    Anyway, I wrote the following poem to encourage anyone who's thinking about training for a marathon but is unsure about whether they are up to it- hope you enjoy it!

    ===========================================
    Run 26 miles? You’ve got to be crazy
    And sure, it’s not something you’d do (if you’re lazy)
    Why suffer the torture, the pain and the ache
    When to cover that distance you need only take
    A bus ride, a car trip or just ride your bike!
    You think “Me run a marathon? Go take a hike!”
    Yet so many do it year after year
    I’ll tell you the reason (if you’d like to hear).

    You’re tempted? That’s great- such a positive spirit
    So let me outline how you’re going to hear it.
    I’ll start with the factors that give you the spark
    To consider to partake in this ‘running lark’
    Then I’ll describe the training (run road and run hill)
    And end with the Finish Line smile, if you will!
    I hope at the end that you give it a go
    And cease to exist as a couch potato!

    You might take up running when you realise
    That your waist is expanding in front of your eyes.
    That middle age crisis takes hold of your mind
    And your friends can no longer pretend to be blind
    To the fact that you’re fat- there’s no easy way
    To state it. You’re piling it on day-by-day.
    Hence you loudly assert (your New Year’s resolution?)
    That you’re going to eliminate this ‘bodily pollution’

    As an ex-couch potato you’d best join a crew
    Of like minded slow joggers- it’s easier to
    Start gently- try start with a 5 minute walk
    (They say that the test is that if you can talk
    While training you’re doing it just about right)
    And after 5 minutes you start to take flight.
    But don’t be ambitious- this has to be possible
    You don’t want to end up inside of the hospital!

    And so training progresses, for sessions you meet
    Each week gently boosting the time on your feet
    From 30 to 40 minutes then much more!
    And slowly you find that the aches and the sore
    Muscles acclimatise- you’re making progress
    And probably find that you weigh slightly less
    (Which is good) but be wary- it’s then that you must
    Be prepared to advance to the next stage…or bust.

    It’s then that the training begins to get tough
    As now you must try raise the bar high enough
    And work hard to ensure that your daily routine
    Converts you into a ‘mean running machine’!
    So- up hill and down dale, on beach and on trail
    (For serious distances) “Breathe in then exhale”
    Remember to also adopt a good diet
    If dessert looks quite tempting, it’s best not to try it!

    Your training will peak at mile 20 or so
    By that stage it’s roughly 3 weeks to ‘get go’
    To the date of your marathon- feel your heart beat!
    You’re going to do it- you know you’ll compete.
    You’ve done all the training and will demonstrate
    That you’ve got what is needed for your marathon date!
    So now for these last weeks you ease off the throttle
    But don’t forget also to 'stay off the bottle' :-)

    And finally- it’s here: the marathon day
    You’ll run the whole distance (no matter what may)
    You gather together at the starting position
    With all of the other ‘competition’.
    To tell you the truth they’re more like running brothers
    And sisters as well- and even grandmothers!
    The ties that have brought you to this day and place
    May well last beyond the present day’s race.

    Start orders are given and off you all go!
    The crowd applauds, cheering you on as you slow-
    -ly find your right pace and get into your rhythm
    You know what is needed – that is a given.
    You’re now on your way-the game is now on
    You’re running your first ever full marathon!
    Things settle down soon- you’re feeling just great
    Or better than that- you’re feeling first rate!

    You’re now halfway there and still feeling good
    You know well this distance; you know that you should
    Be feeling just fine (because you have trained)
    You don’t even feel the slightest bit drained.
    The miles soon clock up- the long effort tells
    Make sure that you take on those energy gels.
    You’ll need them to provide you with the extra fuel
    To help you get through these last miles so cruel.

    6 miles left to go and the dreaded wall
    Might make you slow down, want to stop or to crawl.
    Try not let these thoughts get the better of you
    Just tell yourself firmly that you WILL push on through.
    Don’t doubt that you’ve got the strength that’s required
    To keep it all going- but just be inspired
    By thinking of that little steam train that ran
    Up the very steep mountain saying “Yes! Yes I can”

    The final mile beckons, the end is in sight
    The crowds cheering you on are a source of delight!
    Your legs feeling sore, your muscles sure ache
    But sight of the clock is certain to make
    You give it your all for the last couple of feet
    Your first marathon is now fully complete!
    Reaching the end has tested your mettle
    Congratulations- here’s your finisher’s medal!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭tHE vAGGABOND


    First LSR in ages...

    16km around phoenix park - great to get back out there.

    Legs a bit stiff, but still building back up really tbh - so sorta to be expected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭tHE vAGGABOND


    Was thinking of goals for the year when out running today. Berlin marathon is main goal [going to Paris for "fun"], and getting PB's in 10k and Half Marathon times are the secondary goals.

    Race|PB|2012 Goal
    5k|21.36 [Dunore]|May end up doing one/some, but not a goal *at all*.
    5 Mile|36.59 [Sportsworld]|Sub 36, Im away for Raheny and Sportsworld, so may not do one
    10k|45.40 [Dunshaughlin]|Sub 45.**
    Half Marathon|1.44.12 [Midlands]|Sub 1.43.*
    Marathon|4.08 [DCM]|3.4*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    The RTE 5 mile, May 5th?
    (Now that I'm a BHAA member I have to plug it as much as I plug joining a club ;))


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    First LSR in ages...

    16km around phoenix park - great to get back out there.

    Legs a bit stiff, but still building back up really tbh - so sorta to be expected.

    What happened you yesterday? We hung around the car park a bit but headed off at about 10 past...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    RayCun wrote: »
    The RTE 5 mile, May 5th?
    (Now that I'm a BHAA member I have to plug it as much as I plug joining a club ;))

    There's also the KcLub 10k on 22 April A few of us are going to do this one (to prove that Ultra training makes you faster ;)). So you will have no bother getting a lift out to it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭tHE vAGGABOND


    menoscemo wrote: »
    What happened you yesterday? We hung around the car park a bit but headed off at about 10 past...
    Sorry only woke up at 11 or so, after having a mad week in work - so decided to do feck all for the day and run this morning :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭tHE vAGGABOND


    [Also posted in Injury forum]

    Used my marathon runners for my LSR on saturday [I rotate 3 pairs, so its all a bit random] - for record they are my the 3rd pair of Brooks Glycerin 8's I have owned.

    My left food is a bit sore again, just like it was in the marathon [not too bad, but first time it has happened me since marathon].

    Could it be a "dodgy" pair of runners?

    [I got the foot MRI'd and everything, no problems, and no problems in other runners, a pair of Lunar Glides and another older pair of Glycerin 8's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Was that also your longest run since the marathon?
    No harm in getting a new pair anyway, pushing those ones down the rotation...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭tHE vAGGABOND


    It was indeed my longest run since marathon, have been building up very slowly, on purpose.

    My legs and knees were a fraction tired at the end, but that was "first ever LSR" syndrome. But the foot being sore for first time since marathon threw me [even with it a tiny bit sore].


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭tHE vAGGABOND


    As an experiment, I ran into work [via roundabout way, as Im close to office as crow flies].

    8km's in around 46 minutes - featuring 2 seperate KM's at somewhere between 10k and half pace, as a bit of a speed test of legs.

    I really feel great now, and it was really nice to have a definitive end point to a run, actually going from a to b for a purpose!

    Will do that again...a lot :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭tHE vAGGABOND


    Morning run around chilly Dublin before work..

    A few sneaky pints last night, so really REALLY did not want to get out of bed - but eventually managed it and got somewhere around 9k done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭tHE vAGGABOND


    19.5k with group run in park


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭digger2d2


    19.5k with group run in park

    Would have been longer if the new mot didn't insist on Saturday morning cross-training before your run ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭rockman15


    Just spent the guts of 45mins reading through this thread.

    An outstanding effort throughout. Im recently after taking up this LD running lark and can see parrallels between my own experiences at present and those you have gone through.

    My goal for the year is to complete my first DCM in 3.45-50

    Finding it tough going at the moment. Ive a fair bit of weight to shift, but your blog has been very inspiring! Please keep it up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭chinguetti


    God Vagga, they're giving you some stick.

    Hows the knee since you're back running again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,554 ✭✭✭Mr Slow


    Delighted you're getting back out there vaggababe, you comin to Limerick?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭tHE vAGGABOND


    rockman15 - I love hearing from folks like yourself. As you can see, I was in the same position as yourself a couple of years ago. Eat properly [fruit, veg, meat/fish - and no **** -> its really not rocket science, no need for fad diets - just eat like your grandparents would have!!!], and keep at the regular exercise and the weight will come off.

    The most important thing is sticking with it, and taking it slow and steady, only increasing milage by around 10% a week - when I thought I was superman and jumped ahead on milage I got injured :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭tHE vAGGABOND


    Conor - How are you doing? Hope there is light at the end of the tunnel with your issues?

    Matt - They are all jealous, how are you doing, are you "not training" for anything at the moment :)

    Knee is fine, the odd issue with my foot I had in DCM seems to have flamed up a tad after long run at weekend. But thats just annoying more than anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭tHE vAGGABOND


    Did not run yesterday as I had a load of stuff to do, so ran to work this morning - my normal 'running' day off. Im off on holidays for a week in less than 2 weeks :cool: - so going to push the training a bit these next couple of weeks [work permitting!]


    This morning, slow recovery run into work - 6km in 37 mins

    Left foot a fraction sore from weekend, which is annoying. [Got X-Ray and MRI on it after DCM, and nothing is wrong structurally]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,554 ✭✭✭Mr Slow


    Conor - How are you doing? Hope there is light at the end of the tunnel with your issues?

    Nothing can be done about the mental ones;) but I'm on the way back with the running, finally!:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭chinguetti


    Matt - are you "not training" for anything at the moment :)

    Good to hear the knee is well Vagga. Mind the foot though. And let them be jealous says I.:p

    On the running front, sure i'm doing a bit. I'm now a funrunner (we all agreed this yesterday on a lsr:)) as i don't have a log or a garmin but did 10 miles yesterday. Meno was trying to get me to put up a log but he'ld find out about my speed sessions and tempo runs so the game would be up after that so they're no point.;)

    Pacing Limerick for 4.30 so i'll do that, also a couple of XC races for the change and a few other things as well. Probably do a small foreign marathon later in the year and not Dublin but i've alot of foreign holidays this year that aren't running related and the Olympics to go to so nothing is set in stone yet.

    Next year for the sub 3.30 i think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭Brianderunner


    chinguetti wrote: »
    Good to hear the knee is well Vagga. Mind the foot though. And let them be jealous says I.:p

    On the running front, sure i'm doing a bit. I'm now a funrunner (we all agreed this yesterday on a lsr:)) as i don't have a log or a garmin but did 10 miles yesterday. Meno was trying to get me to put up a log but he'ld find out about my speed sessions and tempo runs so the game would be up after that so they're no point.;)

    Pacing Limerick for 4.30 so i'll do that, also a couple of XC races for the change and a few other things as well. Probably do a small foreign marathon later in the year and not Dublin but i've alot of foreign holidays this year that aren't running related and the Olympics to go to so nothing is set in stone yet.

    Next year for the sub 3.30 i think.

    Better actually start the speed sessions at some stage. Can't have you dragging the team down in Cork :p Myself and Robin will start our own breakaway team if we see any slacking ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Better actually start the speed sessions at some stage. Can't have you dragging the team down in Cork :p Myself and Robin will start our own breakaway team if we see any slacking ;)

    I'll be booking that Tonight and I'm counting on Chinguetti. He promised me If I helped him get the pacing in Limerick then he'd definitely run the relay :D


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