hollywood is racist

Stained Class wrote: »

Because it's irrelevant?

Oh really?

The Irish were treated badly when they first arrived too.

Somehow, they managed to do okay for themselves & by & large didn't use the 'blame culture/race card' to get along with their lives.

Instead, they worked hard. made connections in the right places & wound up running the show for the period of the Kennedy administration.

I'm delighted that Obama is now in charge.

Try talking to the Black community now about discrimination now.

Someone else is always to blame, innit though?

I'm a member of that Black community so... yeah....uhm.

Nodin wrote: »

A common theme is the white man going abroad and benefiting the locals.

Oy, I'm one of those. :pac:

Millicent wrote: »

She has Judaism, Buddhism, Baptism and Catholicism in her ancestry but says she doesn't align to any man-made religions.

Are they not all man made?

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

People from the British Isles being cast as villains.

I disagree with this unless you are talking about historical films that were based on stories in the colonial period; otherwise, the bad guys in films typically follow the bad guys that America is presently fighting with.

In the 80s and 90s, the bad guys were Eastern European, typically East German or Russian. In other words, they were communists.

In the late 90s, they were Middle Eastern or Northern African. Definitely of the Islamic faith at this point, but we hadn't pinpointed a particular region.

After 2001, they have been from regions that have been identified as having large extremist Islamic sects including militias from Africa, Iraq, Syria, and so on.

I don't think Hollywood is racist - instead it just plays on human instinct and our own prejudices.

Being lighter skinned or white is the international colour of beauty and puts you at a higher social-eco class.

I was watching a few Beyonce videos and how many of her videos have dark black girls?....very few. Black Americans rather see lighter skin blacks.

South Africa too, lighter skinned blacks discriminate against the darker ones.

Same in Asia, the lighter skinned you are the more beautiful you're perceived, and also look at geishas in Japan.

Also Bollywood has the same problem that they dont use darker skinned Indians. And lighter skinned people are seen as more beautiful.

We go to the movies to see the surreal and the exceptionally beautiful and funny.

saa wrote: »

And finally I'm not sure about Black Americans necessarily just seeing lighter skin as more appealing as I have heard of many cases of a lighter black person being made fun of and derogatorily called a mulatto or not really black for not being pigmented enough.

it goes both ways

Oranage2 wrote: »

Hollywood movies are aimed at mainly white countries so its only natural to have mainly white actors. You watch a movie made in Asia and you'll see mainly Asians.

And Mulatto is a mixed race person who's parents are white and black. It's a derogatory term but also calling a mixed race black/white person black is also offensive to them. They do suffer discrimination from the very small idiot minority but it stems from the slave days, as I once heard a black person say "The lighter skinned blacks slept in the house, we slept in the fields".

And America racism problem is much different to ours and I really dont think we should be caught up in their PC war, we never kept slaves!


Lastly, lighter black girls are seen as prettier, how many female black celebs do you know that are 'wesley snipes' black? Also put 'hot black girls' into google images and see how many are dark.

It's not only natural (really despise that problematic word :rolleyes:) it depends on the story and the role it doesn't have to be tokenistic but it is and that is western culture within art and film the white middle class male perspective is the default. But outside of western culture lighter is not always prettier and can I just say what a ridiculous spectrum for beauty.
still confused as to why you just explained two or three things that I was already aware of and didn't ask what the definition, wasn't even talking about political correctness or asking what a mulatto person was or slavery. :pac:

saa wrote: »

And finally I'm not sure about Black Americans necessarily just seeing lighter skin as more appealing as I have heard of many cases of a lighter black person being made fun of and derogatorily called a mulatto or not really black for not being pigmented enough.

Oranage2 wrote: »

And Mulatto is a mixed race person who's parents are white and black. It's a derogatory term but also calling a mixed race black/white person black is also offensive to them. They do suffer discrimination from the very small idiot minority but it stems from the slave days, as I once heard a black person say "The lighter skinned blacks slept in the house, we slept in the fields".

And America racism problem is much different to ours and I really dont think we should be caught up in their PC war, we never kept slaves!

Lastly, lighter black girls are seen as prettier, how many female black celebs do you know that are 'wesley snipes' black? Also put 'hot black girls' into google images and see how many are dark.

Yeah, most Black folk don't use the term Mulatto or Quadroon or Octaroon any longer. Those words probably fell out 60-70 years ago.

A light skinned Black person isn't necessarily someone who is half-White and half-Black. They just happen to have a lighter complexion in spite of having two Black parents. Vanessa Williams is someone who is an example of this; both her parents are Black but she inherited blue eyes, lighter skin and lighter hair from White ancestors generations back. If we want to insult someone like that, we would call them "high yella" or "lemonhead" (lemon heads are a type of candy).

Hollywood and the music industry have placed more spotlight on the lighter skinned women but in the last 20 years, I would say that there has been a shift towards Blacks demanding to see more medium to darker skinned talent and there has been an increase in those individuals getting gigs. Oddly enough, we are more likely to find lighter skinned women and darker skinned men.

Although someone objected to Spike Lee, I think this video is very relevant to what we are discussing on the subject of skin tone:



But there has definitely been an increase in the number of medium and darker toned Black actresses getting lead roles. Gabrielle Union, Kerry Washington, and Taraji P. Henson have gotten several leading roles in feature films in the last couple of years.