Guns N' Roses Discussion Thread

Mental Mickey wrote: »

Deep breath..............................................................................oh, f**k that, I'm not gonna waste energy on that f**ker.

If you're waiting for Chinese Democracy I wouldn't hold your breath

I would try waiting for God instead, I hear the pay off is greater

Mental Mickey wrote: »

That's a matter of opinion. And in mine, Chinese Democracy is s**t - apart from a couple of tracks.

Matter of opinion or not, albums don't usually sell in excess of 1 Million units in the US alone, spend months in the charts and top the European Hit 100 without doing something right. All that and the album had virtually no publicity, no live dates, no interviews, no promotion and very little airplay.

RonMexico wrote: »

The no publicity thing is not valid. It was the most anticipated album, certainly the most infamous album, long before it was released. You'd want to be living under a rock not to have known it was out.

OK, granted, but the lack of promotional tours directly before or after the albums release and the lack of music videos featuring ANY of the new line up or ANY of the new songs AND the complete lack of interviews or promotional spots given to the album upon release would have detracted those who simply downloaded the album illegally, or obtained it through a friend, or whatever means you like that meant they just didn't pay for the bloody thing.

Plus it streamed on MySpace and YouTube, in full, before it was released so anyone who purchased the album and then complained it was **** has only themselves to blame.

And, at that, I don't believe that many people would have purchased the album in error or without knowing more than a few songs. So those sales figures stand, and one million people (at least) bought this album in the US. So even with illegal downloads it still sold well against its contemporaries.

I'm gonna stick on Madagascar right now I think.

RonMexico wrote: »

It just didn't live up to expectations and was not the album that people were expecting. It was all over the place and disjointed, lacking Axl's trademark vocals & the epic solos that are the signature GNR sound. It has its moments but they are few and far between.

There were expectations for this album, granted, but people should have known that this was a completely new band with completely new members. Hell, people should have been fully aware that Slash and Duff had left, and anybody who knows anything about music knows that when a band looses principal songwriting partners/musicians there is going to be a change in musical direction whether you want it or not.

The very Punk nature attitude of GNR was fueled, to a large extent, by Duff McKagan. When he left the band that was going to change. Even when Axl Rose changed the tempo of Knocking On Heaven's Door live in 2001 people should have realized that, yes, this means he is probably going to alter sounds and release different musical opinion.

Look at the track My World from Use Your Illusion 2, composed completely by Axl - with some left over drum tracks from Matt - all the band members at the time said they hadn't a clue that song existed until the album came out. But it kind of sounds like it could be a future idea or demo for Shackler's or Rhiad



In January 1994 on a US interview on Rockline Axl Rose told the host (and a stunned Slash) that he was working on a secret solo project. This project was what happened to some of the earliest ideas for Chinese Democracy. Axl Rose is business minded, he knew full well that he would never be taken seriously without the GNR name, that he wouldn't get half as much attention without that name. That's the only reason he kept it, not to piss on the past, but to use it as a marketing tool to sell albums - I don't agree it with his methods, but I like his musical results, personally

I agree with you, it's not Guns N' Roses, not how I see it and it in no way represents the band that played Slane in 1992. But for a lot of people (younger people, mostly Americans) its the only GNR they know and they only one they want at the moment.

The HOF thing is not going to happen as people expect, a reunion tour might happen (within the next 5 years if all the principal members are still alive and enough money is in the pot) but, for now, Guns N Roses is just another band fronted by the same man who fronted the last band called that.

This made me laugh, but was verified as completely true

A source tells PEOPLE that Guns N' Roses frontman Axl Rose has been serving jury duty on a civil trial in Santa Monica, Calif.

The rocker's rep confirms that Rose, 49, indeed has been performing his civic duty – having completed jury duty service on Tuesday "after serving four days of the trial process," says his rep.

"It was relatively painless," says Rose, who just completed a U.S. tour with his band last month. "I was fortunate that everyone in the courthouse and jurors were all really great, plus I got to see daylight from a different prospect."

So, you can imagine among many other things feeling pressured by your impending trial, only to find out Axl Rose was on the jury! I can't believe he agreed to this, you'd imagine he'd find a way to get out of it, but it will certainly give him good press.