MAJOR SEARCH IN WEST WICKLOW

MagicSean · 11-01-2012 11:19AM

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

None of those articles mentioned the Lodge had been searched before now. Therefore it is reasonable to assume it hasn't been. Do you yourself think the lodge and surrounding area has been searched already? If so, perhaps you might be so kind as to provide some links ect, as to why you have come to this conclusion? Because I can't find any.

But if the lodge had been searched properly prior to this current search, then why would they be searching it again? Unless of course the Gardai can't grasp an understanding of the term 'properly'. I mean we are talking about a shed after all and one would like to think that even this isn't beyond the capabilities of the Gardai.

Sorry Larry, I didn't mean to put the heat back on you again.

There have been many upgrades in technology and methodology since he was originally put away. Ground penetrating radar for one. These things would greatly enhance the chance of finding anything in the lodge or surrounding area.

Ash.J.Williams · 11-01-2012 11:21AM

MagicSean wrote: »

There have been many upgrades in technology and methodology since he was originally put away. Ground penetrating radar for one. These things would greatly enhance the chance of finding anything in the lodge or surrounding area.

Turns out some armchair CSI guy from the UK has recommended they search the area. They only found a spoon last time they looked.

MagicSean · 11-01-2012 11:21AM

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

my niece's father is an imcompetent garda... the child was 4 weeks old when i dragged him out of the pub so he could meet her for the first time despite being offerd the chance to see his daughter being born which he made up a lame ass excuse about having to work....noone would expect ya to work when your kid is being born... since then he has only seen her a handful of times and that was only cos he wanted a promotion (which he didnt get) and he was using the child at garada family day events so after that he stopped seeing the child again.

if he cant be responsible for his own offspring why on earth would we expect him to be a responsible garda officer

How does any of that make him an incompetent Garda. That just makes him an asshole.

Orando Broom · 11-01-2012 11:22AM

MagicSean wrote: »

Ground penetrating radar for one.

That's hot.

Sofa King Great · 11-01-2012 11:30AM

Father Damo wrote: »

If tv ever thought us anything is that the best cops are alcoholic unfaithful self hating sex addicts with a poor relationship with their kids and the mother :pac:

How else would Jimmy McNulty have ever caught Avon Barksdale, Stringer Bell and Marlo Stanfield?

StephenHendry · 11-01-2012 11:50AM

i don't have much confidence in the gardai. suppose the yorkshire ripper was irish, i'd say they would not have caught him. i've heard so many stories about how incompetent the gardai are. annie mc carrick father said that when he spoke to the gardai a few weeks after her disappearance in one of the garda stations, the garda he spoke to took down details incorrectly.

watching that documentary the other night, Crime in Mind on Tv3, the retired garda they interviewed looked completely disinterested in what the experts were saying and gave the impression that he didnt want to be there. he didnt come up with anything useful or insightful to say. if the likes of him were over the missing persons cases, its no wonder they didnt solve the cases.

Crazy Horse 6 · 11-01-2012 11:52AM

Sofa King Great wrote: »

How else would Jimmy McNulty have ever caught Avon Barksdale, Stringer Bell and Marlo Stanfield?

In fairness he used an illegal wiretap to catch Stanfield and marlo got off.;)

Sofa King Great · 11-01-2012 11:53AM

StephenHendry wrote: »

watching that documentary the other night, Crime in Mind on Tv3, the retired garda they interviewed looked completely disinterested in what the experts were saying and gave the impression that he didnt want to be there. he didnt come up with anything useful or insightful to say. if the likes of him were over the missing persons cases, its no wonder they didnt solve the cases.

He was retired. What does he care?

Ash.J.Williams · 11-01-2012 12:00PM

Let's not forget the garda in charge of the shergar case! The foreign press got a great laugh from him!
I believe they also made a mess of Sophie De Plantaires murder scene too didn't they?

StephenHendry · 11-01-2012 12:27PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Let's not forget the garda in charge of the shergar case! The foreign press got a great laugh from him!
I believe they also made a mess of Sophie De Plantaires murder scene too didn't they?

they sure did, the duplantier case might never be fully solved due to the number of mistakes etc.

Chucky the tree · 11-01-2012 04:43PM

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

None of those articles mentioned the Lodge had been searched before now. Therefore it is reasonable to assume it hasn't been. Do you yourself think the lodge and surrounding area has been searched already? If so, perhaps you might be so kind as to provide some links ect, as to why you have come to this conclusion? Because I can't find any.

But if the lodge had been searched properly prior to this current search, then why would they be searching it again? Unless of course the Gardai can't grasp an understanding of the term 'properly'. I mean we are talking about a shed after all and one would like to think that even this isn't beyond the capabilities of the Gardai.

How would the journalists of those articles know what happened in 1995? The article doesn't say they asked the Garda if this was the first time it had been searched or if they didn't do the job properly, infact they mention nothing about it. Chances are the article was written in about five minutes with no background work done and then just copied and pasted by everyone else.

You want me to provide links to articles from 1995? :pac:

donalg1 · 11-01-2012 04:48PM

mikemac1 wrote: »

Quit bashing Aertel

It's fantastic for getting the Lotto numbers and checking the TV listings

And RTÉ are making a leap by bringing up Larry Murphy. Could well be gangland and have nothing to do with him

Just press TV Guide on the top of your sky remote tis much quicker.

vicwatson · 12-01-2012 12:32AM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Let's not forget the garda in charge of the shergar case! The foreign press got a great laugh from him!
I believe they also made a mess of Sophie De Plantaires murder scene too didn't they?

And (ex) Judge Brian Curtin's arrest warrant :mad::mad:

The Maverick · 12-01-2012 12:51AM

StephenHendry wrote: »

i don't have much confidence in the gardai. suppose the yorkshire ripper was irish, i'd say they would not have caught him. i've heard so many stories about how incompetent the gardai are. annie mc carrick father said that when he spoke to the gardai a few weeks after her disappearance in one of the garda stations, the garda he spoke to took down details incorrectly.....

You know it took the Yorkshire police 6 years and, at the time, the UK's biggest ever inquiry to catch him? In the end, it wasn't even detective work , it was pure luck. The police stopped him with a prostitute in his car because they noticed it had dodgy number plates. They questioned him at the station, got suspicious and returned to the area,where only then did they find the weapons he used in the killings.

The point is, of course the gardaí make mistakes in their investiagtions (Though I'm not saying that this is the case here). That's human nature and happens the world over. If you go through any police force's records, you will find a catalogue of inquiries ruined by simple errors. It shouldn't happen but it does and always will.

MagicSean · 12-01-2012 01:10AM

vicwatson wrote: »

And (ex) Judge Brian Curtin's arrest warrant :mad::mad:

Was it not the judge in that case who decided to narrow the interpretation on the warrant so that the search was conducted outside the time frame?

mikemac1 · 12-01-2012 01:14AM

donalg1 wrote: »

Just press TV Guide on the top of your sky remote tis much quicker.

I'd guess most people in Ireland don't have Sky

Everyone has Aertel

scholar007 · 12-01-2012 05:58PM

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

my niece's father is an imcompetent garda... the child was 4 weeks old when i dragged him out of the pub so he could meet her for the first time despite being offerd the chance to see his daughter being born which he made up a lame ass excuse about having to work....noone would expect ya to work when your kid is being born... since then he has only seen her a handful of times and that was only cos he wanted a promotion (which he didnt get) and he was using the child at garada family day events so after that he stopped seeing the child again.

if he cant be responsible for his own offspring why on earth would we expect him to be a responsible garda officer

I suppose she met him in Coppers ?

tayto lover · 12-01-2012 06:09PM

StephenHendry wrote: »

i don't have much confidence in the gardai. suppose the yorkshire ripper was irish, i'd say they would not have caught him. i've heard so many stories about how incompetent the gardai are. annie mc carrick father said that when he spoke to the gardai a few weeks after her disappearance in one of the garda stations, the garda he spoke to took down details incorrectly.

watching that documentary the other night, Crime in Mind on Tv3, the retired garda they interviewed looked completely disinterested in what the experts were saying and gave the impression that he didnt want to be there. he didnt come up with anything useful or insightful to say. if the likes of him were over the missing persons cases, its no wonder they didnt solve the cases.

Ha ha what sheer bullsh1t you speak. The truth is that the Yorkshire police had him questioned and released before getting pure lucky. Not policework at all that caught him. Before posting rubbish would you research the case.

JupiterKid · 12-01-2012 09:11PM

It seems to be to be pretty GUBU (as a certain CJ Haughey once opined) that the Gardai haven't appeared to have taken a much more active stance in investigating Larry Murphy given the circumstansial evidence - his brutal rape of the young woman in Wicklow and his attempted murder of her - and the string of unsolved disappearances that seemed to stop when he was finally jailed.

10 years was a disgracefully short prison sentence for a person who IMO is a phsychopath and a danger to society.:mad:

I really hope that these new searches will lead to a major breakthrough but I won't hold my breath. Larry Murphy is now at large and is a danger to women everwhere.

How many bodies of murder victims are lying up in the Wicklow mountains awaiting discovery?:(

vicwatson · 17-01-2012 12:29AM

MagicSean wrote: »

Was it not the judge in that case who decided to narrow the interpretation on the warrant so that the search was conducted outside the time frame?

No, the wrong date was put on the warrant so it was conducted outside the timeframe and was so deemed to have expired

*Curtin walks away with his PC (and his pension)* ahem

vicwatson · 17-01-2012 12:30AM

How many bodies of murder victims are lying up in the Wicklow mountains awaiting discovery?

I give in...

MagicSean · 17-01-2012 12:35AM

vicwatson wrote: »

No, the wrong date was put on the warrant so it was conducted outside the timeframe

*Curtin walks away with his PC (and his pension)* ahem

I don't think that was it. The warrant said 7 days and the Garda assumed that meant 7 x 24 hours. The judge decided that the first day started at 00.01 on the day the warrant had been issued.

Means Of Escape · 18-01-2012 12:38AM

Get Murphy
Waterboard him
Get answers

vicwatson · 19-01-2012 12:31AM

MagicSean wrote: »

I don't think that was it. The warrant said 7 days and the Garda assumed that meant 7 x 24 hours. The judge decided that the first day started at 00.01 on the day the warrant had been issued.

Ya could be right.

laugh · 22-01-2012 12:00PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Larry Murphy played at full back for Baltinglass Junior B's, a position that requires savage strength, enough strength to subdue and murder a woman.....

or something....well that's what the Sunday world said back then!!

Baltinglass is a town, Larry Murphy wasn't from there (He was from a village near there) and didn't live there with his family (He lived near another village in West Wicklow).

I guess the Sunday World doesn't give two fucks about being geographically accurate, what impact would "The Beast of Baltinglass" becoming a common phrase have . . .

Wattle · 23-01-2012 05:10PM

Looks like they may have found that missing Romanian girl:

Human remains have been found in the Wicklow Mountains by gardaí investigating the disappearance of a young woman two years ago.
It has not been confirmed whether they are of a man or a woman. The discovery was made during a dig on land in the Manor Kilbride area near the Sallygap today.
Dr Khalid Jabbar from the State Pathologist's office has attended the scene and a postmortem will be carried out later this evening at the morgue in Tallaght hospital.
Gardaí have been searching in the area for the remains of Marioara Rostas (19), who was last seen begging at traffic lights in Dublin’s south inner city in January 2010.
It is understood a tip-off led gardaí investigating her disappearance to the site and they have been searching there for about 10 days. She is presumed to have been shot dead.
While a gangland criminal from Dublin’s south inner city is suspected of being centrally involved in the murder of Ms Rostas, gardaí have not discounted the theory that the fatal shots were discharged by another person, possibly a woman.
Ms Rostas was last seen on Lombard Street East in Dublin on Sunday, January 6th, 2010, at the junction of Pearse Street. She was seen talking to a man, believed to be the gangland suspect, in a car described as a silver Ford Mondeo.

MAJOR SEARCH IN WEST WICKLOW

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