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Why do [some] guys cheat on their long term girlfriends - bored, or not in love?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 Tweet0004


    agree with you :D, but there is a difference between boys and men


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,568 ✭✭✭candy-gal1


    not fancying the person theyre with long term anymore and staying with them till something else comes along but also telling the long term one that they love them and will always be with them etc etc, cheating on them, and then breaking up with them seems to be the way to go for some people ive heard :rolleyes: :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭XenaLady


    candy-gal1 wrote: »
    not fancying the person theyre with long term anymore and staying with them till something else comes along


    Thats the whole point, depends on how much ya like the other half. Wouldnt want to upset anyone if it matters, but if it doesnt... ah well... :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    A man can be in genuine love with a girl but still may want to sample rare fruit, Can the wimmins make sense of that?:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭XenaLady


    some of us gals might even think the same way lolz :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭holystungun9


    Tweet0004 wrote: »
    agree with you :D, but there is a difference between boys and men

    True dat, jus ask those singer guys.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Because men love their partners and love sex with other women. Simple


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Robdude


    I dated a girl for four years in and after college. She was great and we had a good relationship. We spent three of those four years living together.

    I cheated on her a lot.

    My problem was that I really liked being in a relationship with her but I also really liked the excitement of meeting someone new. Some of the best memories of my life include the first time I kissed a new girl. The first touch, the first look, starting a relationship, getting to know the girl - I couldn't have any of that with my girlfriend - because we ALREADY had it. We already knew each other.

    At first, I tried to just 'suck it up'. I was with a girl, so I didn't get to do those things. But after six months or so, it really bothered me. I thought about breaking up with her - but I didn't want to hurt her and I didn't want to lose the good relationship we had. I truthfully didn't know what to do. In 5 years - I could imagine her and I married with kids - but I was young and in college....I wanted to 'party' a little too.

    The first time I cheated on her, I didn't set out to do it (but I allowed it to happen). It was at a big party at another school, visiting an old friend. Nobody knew me. I met a girl and made out with her. It was awesome.

    When I got back I felt great. And my relationship with my girlfriend was even better. I was in good mood, I appreciated her again. And it was so *easy*.

    I didn't feel any guilt. It was easy to rationalize it. She didn't find out, so she didn't get hurt. I didn't even sleep with this other girl - it was just making out. Nobody got hurt. And I had a wonderful time. It was great. Life was good.

    I realized that I could have EVERYTHING I wanted by cheating. I could have a mature relationship with my girlfriend *AND* have the thrill of a new girl by cheating. It seemed so easy.

    And truthfully, it was.

    I'm not some super attractive, smooth guy, that can just pick up girls whenever he wants. I'm just a regular guy (at best). But I started going out of my way to not mention my girlfriend outside of the circle of people she interacted with. I was in a club sport in college and my girlfriend never interacted with those people, so I told them all we broke up.

    When I wasn't around my girlfriend - I was single.
    When she was around - I was with her.

    Over the months, every now and then, I'd met some new girl. And I'd pursue her. And it was *so much easier* to hit on a girl when I knew I had a girlfriend. Maybe it means I have low self-esteem or something - but I was way more successful with women at bars and parties when I had a girlfriend.

    Some of the times, it would be a one time thing. Other times, I'd meet a new girl and end up 'dating' her for a few weeks/months. In my head though, I knew that the new girl was just a fling.

    The really ironic part of it all, was that in many ways (aside from the actual cheating) I was a better boyfriend while I was cheating. Before I started cheating, I wasn't even really sure if we should be dating. I felt bad and resentful for missing out on the experiences I wanted in college....but once I was cheating, I thought our relationship was perfect. I appreciated her more and I was more caring and more attentive.

    This went on for years. She never found out and was never negatively impacted by any of the cheating I did.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    Robdude wrote: »
    but I was young and in college

    Pathetic excuse for being a selfish liar to be honest.


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  • Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Robdude wrote: »
    I dated a girl for four years in and after college. She was great and we had a good relationship. We spent three of those four years living together.

    I cheated on her a lot.

    My problem was that I really liked being in a relationship with her but I also really liked the excitement of meeting someone new. Some of the best memories of my life include the first time I kissed a new girl. The first touch, the first look, starting a relationship, getting to know the girl - I couldn't have any of that with my girlfriend - because we ALREADY had it. We already knew each other.

    At first, I tried to just 'suck it up'. I was with a girl, so I didn't get to do those things. But after six months or so, it really bothered me. I thought about breaking up with her - but I didn't want to hurt her and I didn't want to lose the good relationship we had. I truthfully didn't know what to do. In 5 years - I could imagine her and I married with kids - but I was young and in college....I wanted to 'party' a little too.

    The first time I cheated on her, I didn't set out to do it (but I allowed it to happen). It was at a big party at another school, visiting an old friend. Nobody knew me. I met a girl and made out with her. It was awesome.

    When I got back I felt great. And my relationship with my girlfriend was even better. I was in good mood, I appreciated her again. And it was so *easy*.

    I didn't feel any guilt. It was easy to rationalize it. She didn't find out, so she didn't get hurt. I didn't even sleep with this other girl - it was just making out. Nobody got hurt. And I had a wonderful time. It was great. Life was good.

    I realized that I could have EVERYTHING I wanted by cheating. I could have a mature relationship with my girlfriend *AND* have the thrill of a new girl by cheating. It seemed so easy.

    And truthfully, it was.

    I'm not some super attractive, smooth guy, that can just pick up girls whenever he wants. I'm just a regular guy (at best). But I started going out of my way to not mention my girlfriend outside of the circle of people she interacted with. I was in a club sport in college and my girlfriend never interacted with those people, so I told them all we broke up.

    When I wasn't around my girlfriend - I was single.
    When she was around - I was with her.

    Over the months, every now and then, I'd met some new girl. And I'd pursue her. And it was *so much easier* to hit on a girl when I knew I had a girlfriend. Maybe it means I have low self-esteem or something - but I was way more successful with women at bars and parties when I had a girlfriend.

    Some of the times, it would be a one time thing. Other times, I'd meet a new girl and end up 'dating' her for a few weeks/months. In my head though, I knew that the new girl was just a fling.

    The really ironic part of it all, was that in many ways (aside from the actual cheating) I was a better boyfriend while I was cheating. Before I started cheating, I wasn't even really sure if we should be dating. I felt bad and resentful for missing out on the experiences I wanted in college....but once I was cheating, I thought our relationship was perfect. I appreciated her more and I was more caring and more attentive.

    This went on for years. She never found out and was never negatively impacted by any of the cheating I did.
    Ya can't say all that and not tell us how it ended!! Unless she's on boards of course ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,568 ✭✭✭candy-gal1


    XenaLady wrote: »
    Thats the whole point, depends on how much ya like the other half. Wouldnt want to upset anyone if it matters, but if it doesnt... ah well... :p


    well maybe thats just me then, but imho if your with someone long term, with many ways of commitment, tell the person you love them, will be with them forever if youll have them :rolleyes: , etc etc then why cheat tbh, also why cheat on someone if your already planning on breaking up with them anyway, then lie that you never cheated even though your breaking up so you may as well say it now tbh



    people are just confusing, not you xenalady, just in general


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Robdude


    MagicSean wrote: »
    Pathetic excuse for being a selfish liar to be honest.

    That wasn't intended to excuse what I did; only to offer insight into my situation.

    I felt like college was meant to be a time of experimenting and freedom. I wanted to have crazy college adventures and then, afterwards, settle down with a wife and have a family. I still believe that is the most common course of action - and when I look at the average age for getting married, it's aligns with my beliefs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭Azureus


    I always said to any boyfriend I have had, if you wanna sleep with/kiss someone else, just call me and break up with me first. The lack of thought and consideration for your partner involved in an act like cheating is despicable, its not the physical act behind it, its the betrayal involved and anyone who does that is scum-excuses like 'bored' or 'not in love anymore' are worthless-man up and break up with the person first. This applies to both sexes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭puddinboxxx


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Robdude


    Jay D wrote: »
    Ya can't say all that and not tell us how it ended!! Unless she's on boards of course ;)

    Ultimately, after about four years we did break up (I ended it). She never learned of the cheating and we're still friendly with one another via e-mail.

    I expected that, as I got older, I'd grow out of the desire to cheat. But that didn't seem to happen. When we finished school, our plans to get married were getting closer and I still didn't feel 'ready' to get married. And, we learned that we both had slightly different expectations for how our life together should be.

    So I ended it.

    Most relationships, particularly those amongst younger couples, end in a break up or divorce. I'm not sure if that means it was a failed relationship. Without the cheating, we might have broken up sooner.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭Johnny Foreigner


    Tweet0004 wrote: »
    Why do guys cheat on long term girlfriends, if they have no children, and are not married, and are free to walk away, as they are not married. I know girls do too. Not all guys cheat, i am aware of this, but just seems so common now adays, and think that they are afraid of been on their own. :confused::confused:

    The thrill of knowing they can get away with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 sunnymar


    Robdude wrote: »
    Jay D wrote: »
    Ya can't say all that and not tell us how it ended!! Unless she's on boards of course ;)

    Ultimately, after about four years we did break up (I ended it). She never learned of the cheating and we're still friendly with one another via e-mail.

    I expected that, as I got older, I'd grow out of the desire to cheat. But that didn't seem to happen. When we finished school, our plans to get married were getting closer and I still didn't feel 'ready' to get married. And, we learned that we both had slightly different expectations for how our life together should be.

    So I ended it.

    Most relationships, particularly those amongst younger couples, end in a break up or divorce. I'm not sure if that means it was a failed relationship. Without the cheating, we might have broken up sooner.


    "without cheating we might have broken up sooner"

    so you measure how good a relationship is based on how long it lasts?

    Also, the absolute arrogance off that statement. Do you not think your ex deserved to be with someone who didnt cheat on her? Who thought being with just her was enough?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭Acacia


    They want the best of both worlds.


    I know a guy who was madly in love with his gf, but just went out and had sex with another girl for no real reason. Well, he couldn't explain why. Just because he could, I think.


    It's fairly hard to tar everyone with the same brush though.


  • Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    sunnymar wrote: »
    "without cheating we might have broken up sooner"

    so you measure how good a relationship is based on how long it lasts?

    Also, the absolute arrogance off that statement. Do you not think your ex deserved to be with someone who didnt cheat on her? Who thought being with just her was enough?

    Is it really up to anyone else to judge? I don't agree with cheating, in fact even seeing it on TV has a weird affect on me but everyone's different.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭BunShopVoyeur


    Robdude wrote: »
    I met a girl and made out with her. It was awesome.


    Like totally dude. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 638 ✭✭✭theTinker


    I've never cheated on any of my gfs. Never see the point in it.

    My friends always cheat though, I find it really strange but ive become accustomed to it.

    In my experience and reasoning on this topic over the last decade, I believe its due to 3 reasons.

    1.People are too weak to shape thier life how they want it to be. They'll stay in manogomous relationships sa they dont want to be alone, or they dont want thier gf/bf to be with anyone but them, even though they dont actually want to be manogmous.

    2.Alot of people are not naturally suppose to be manogamous. Some people are really suited to it, but if you find yourself wanting to be with others while in a relationship, and cheat or feel incredible urges to cheat. Then Its simple, manogamy is not for you.

    3.Drunken mistakes. I am loath to admit this can be a reason, but sometimes some people do just get so incredibly ****faced that they havent a clue what they are doing. Rare though. Most of the time its reason number 2.


    I myself, dont belong in a manogamous relationship. Im in my first open relationship now and its working out pretty darn well. Having the freesdom to spend any type of time with any one i choose is quite liberating, and my gf is just someone who im crazy about. So its nice to have both. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 638 ✭✭✭theTinker


    Azureus wrote: »
    I always said to any boyfriend I have had, if you wanna sleep with/kiss someone else, just call me and break up with me first. The lack of thought and consideration for your partner involved in an act like cheating is despicable, its not the physical act behind it, its the betrayal involved and anyone who does that is scum-excuses like 'bored' or 'not in love anymore' are worthless-man up and break up with the person first. This applies to both sexes.

    I completely agree with this. People are well more fecked over by the lying and deceit invovled. Sleeping with someone is an act that can be forgiven or ignored or whatever, but when you prove yourself untrustworthy and a liar. It undermines the whole relationship.
    Take the lying, deceit, and betrayal out of sleeping with someone else, and i think alot of people wouldnt give a **** in most ways. Its usually that thier perception of thier partner is destroyed which is the hardest part to get over. If the perception is correct and theres no betrayal. Its all good. Well once people get over thier insecurities.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Azureus wrote: »
    I always said to any boyfriend I have had, if you wanna sleep with/kiss someone else, just call me and break up with me first. The lack of thought and consideration for your partner involved in an act like cheating is despicable, its not the physical act behind it, its the betrayal involved and anyone who does that is scum-excuses like 'bored' or 'not in love anymore' are worthless-man up and break up with the person first. This applies to both sexes.
    So if your boyfriend broke up with you at 10pm on Saturday night and got back with you at 6am Sunday morning having banged numerous skinny bitches in the interval you'd be ok with that. I like the cut of your jib.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭Azureus


    So if your boyfriend broke up with you at 10pm on Saturday night and got back with you at 6am Sunday morning having banged numerous skinny bitches in the interval you'd be ok with that. I like the cut of your jib.

    Who said I'd take the fecker back!?

    Sure Id be fine with it once they were just skinny bitches he was banging, no fat chicks!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    MagicSean wrote: »
    Robdude wrote: »
    but I was young and in college

    Pathetic excuse for being a selfish liar to be honest.
    Chill out with the judgemental crap, his post was very genuine and insightful, he wasn't cheating on you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭ItsAWindUp


    Selfishness?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,247 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    cheating is usually just about having sex with different people , if more partners were open to being allowed to have no strings sex (no attachment) with other people then it wouldnt be such a problem.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    ItsAWindUp wrote: »
    Selfishness?
    Everything anyone ever does is selfish. People do it for pleasure and excitement.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭Azureus


    No strings sex is all well and good in theory, but its not chemically possible for the majority of women (I don't know if it works the same in men). Attachment hormones are released and thats the end of that! We're chemically designed to be crazy.


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