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Winter 2011/2012

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    IMG_0143.jpg

    I'm really looking forward (with confidence) to this again :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 126 ✭✭tzfrantic




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    Wasn't that during the foot and mouth epidemic. I remember going up the liffey source in the Wicklow mountains to see (at the time) the most amount of snow I had ever seen. The river was filled in with snow but you weren't allowed to hike far off road markings due to foot and mouth signs everywhere(they weren't quite buried unfortunately!).

    It was indeed during the F&M outbreak!

    But I doubt that cause the snow ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,018 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    Loving the pictures wild bill are they all your own? And as ever great informative post redsunset.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Lucreto


    Wild Bill wrote: »
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    Then there was the 8" fall in Dublin on 28th February 2001; it remained on the ground for another 8 days in cloudless skies and near freezing temps till about the 7th March.

    Not many people remember this! :)

    I don't remember it sadly. If it was a decent snowfall I would remember it. I think I had less than 5 snow days off school.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    baraca wrote: »
    Loving the pictures wild bill are they all your own?

    100% - guaranteed Wild Bill :D

    Note the lesser number of pixels in the earlier pics...but at the time it was fairly up to date.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭Joe Public


    If prayers from this forum could be turned into snow we'd be snowed in for months.

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    Lucreto wrote: »
    I think I had less than 5 snow days off school.

    Like....in 2001.... or in your entire school years :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    davidsr20 wrote: »
    I don't remember anything special about 88/89 :rolleyes:

    That winter of 88-89 was one damn wet one, rivers around here burst their banks and were ten to fifteen feet above normal! Considering there are 5 rivers in my area and the Nore is the fastest flowing river in Ireland that drains here too, it takes serious rains for flooding in South Laois!!!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Lucreto


    Wild Bill wrote: »
    Like....in 2001.... or in your entire school years :confused:

    Sorry I was meant to say in my whole school career. 14 years and only 5 days due to snow. Well I did live in Bray until 1997 moved to Naas then I had about 3.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,814 ✭✭✭Calibos


    I used to joke about the Bray Snow Shield but with what I have learned here it really exists, just not in the Starship Enterprise form I envisaged :D

    Barring major Frontal battles like '82 and '87, the long land track and Wicklow and Dublin Mountains that wrap around Bray deal with anything coming from the NW,W,SW & S. Long land track deals with anything from the North. Being right in the middle of the East coast means that the Eastern counties of ulster mean not enough of a sea track and a resultant snow shadow with Bray at the southerly extremity of the shadow for NNE. Again Brays position in the middle of the east coast puts us within the Isle of Man shadow for most North Easterlies or anything close to one. Picture the wind coming from behind the IOM. Visualise the shadow cast up and down the east coast of Ireland as the wind changes direction. Because Bray is in the middle of the East coast were are usually within some part of the shadow no matter what part of the east coast the shadow is on. We might be smack bang in the middle for a pure North Easterly. If Meath/Dublin is in the shadow Bray is within the southern boundaries of it and the rest of Wicklow/Wexford get the snow. If Wicklow/Wexford is in the IOM shadow, Bray is usually within the Northern boundaries of the shadow and Dublin/Meath get the snow. If its a true easterly we are in the Anglesey/Wales shadow.

    Basically, if the wind is not coming from the direction of Cumbria/Blackpool where there is enough of a sea track then Bray gets sweet fanny adams!! :D

    And even when it is coming from the right direction for us?? We ended up between streamers more often than not. All Brays snow for that whole month last year came from basically 2 or 3 heavy 90 minute showers

    With regard to the 2001 event. I think Bray got about an inch out of that :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    Lived in Bray for years so I know what you mean!

    The shield works for rain (and clouds) as well so not all bad :)

    (Any weather stations in Bray? - the rainfall there must be the lowest in Ireland and the sunshine the highest)

    I remember back in the day before the M11 the traffic from Bray to Dub was atrocious and commuters like me-self did a rat-run through The Scalp, Stepaside and so forth - there might be a bone dry hard frost in Bray and it always seemed to be snowy in Sandyford.

    So I moved ;)

    (Hint hint)

    (I did love Bray though, great place to live and one of the most under-rated spots in the GDA)


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,306 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Wild Bill wrote: »
    Any weather stations in Bray? - the rainfall there must be the lowest in Ireland and the sunshine the highest

    Our very own trogdor has a station there. http://www.brayweather.com/

    BTW, thanks for posting up all the photos of past snow events! :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Our very own trogdor has a station there. http://www.brayweather.com/

    If I'm reading Trog's stats correctly (which I'm probably not) then Bray had about 580 mm in 2011

    That is dry - and what I'd have expected :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭weathermaiden


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Our very own trogdor has a station there. http://www.brayweather.com/

    BTW, thanks for posting up all the photos of past snow events! :)

    I wondered who ran BrayWeather! I have been addicted to that site since I moved here, and have been using it recently to "calibrate" my weather station that I got for Crimbo. :D trogdor, I miss your forecasts!

    And I agree about the frustrating snow shield!!! :mad:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,667 ✭✭✭WolfeIRE


    Jet-Stream-North-of-UK-wp1.jpg

    High pressure builds over the weekend and next week as the jet stream shifts north and slows down.

    Light rain or drizzle will affect the north and west at times though as fronts zip by toward Scandanavia


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 7,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭pistolpetes11


    WolfeIRE wrote: »
    Jet-Stream-North-of-UK-wp1.jpg

    High pressure builds over the weekend and next week as the jet stream shifts north and slows down.

    Light rain or drizzle will affect the north and west at times though as fronts zip by toward Scandanavia

    Hopefully it will be nice and dry for the rest of us !

    Sick of looking at rain !


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Lucreto


    Hopefully it will be nice and dry for the rest of us !

    Sick of looking at rain !


    According to Met Eireann
    Saturday night : Cool and mainly dry early in the night with moderate westerly breezes. Lowest temperatures 3 to 6 C., with a slight frost only in sheltered areas. But cloudy, misty weather will develop later on, with temperatures rising and with some drizzle in places before dawn. Sunday will be a mild, mostly cloudy day. Top temperature will range 9 to 11 C., in a moderate to fresh southwest breeze. Dull and drizzly to start, but drier in many places by afternoon, with a few bright spells developing in central and eastern areas. But drizzle and rain will persist on northern and some western coasts. Mild overnight, with a spell of persistent rain moving across the country, from the west. Monday may well start wet, but the rain should soon clear, so that the day will be mainly dry and bright, with sunny spells developing. Top temperatures 8 to 10 C., in moderate westerly breezes. Cold overnight with a sharp frost and some fog frost and perhaps some icy patches. The outlook up to and including midweek is for it to stay mild and mostly cloudy, with some rain at times. But amounts should be small and there will be some dry, bright, interludes also. Temperatures will range 8 to 11 C., by day and it is expected to be mild at night also, with little or no frost.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,667 ✭✭✭WolfeIRE


    Hopefully it will be nice and dry for the rest of us !

    Sick of looking at rain !

    Today is a filthy day here. Strong westerly-southwesterly winds are driving heavy drizzle. Nothing on the radar but I can tell you the ground is saturated here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭Pangea


    WolfeIRE wrote: »
    Today is a filthy day here. Strong westerly-southwesterly winds are driving heavy drizzle. Nothing on the radar but I can tell you the ground is saturated here.

    Same here, nothing on radar but pretty much raining all morning.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Same here too, in Galway. Now ye know why I want weather radars on hills overlooking the atlantic at Schull and Dooncarton and not miles inland at airports ...shielded by hills :)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 7,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭pistolpetes11


    WolfeIRE wrote: »
    Today is a filthy day here. Strong westerly-southwesterly winds are driving heavy drizzle. Nothing on the radar but I can tell you the ground is saturated here.

    Nice day in Dublin 4 , nice n mild , not much sun in the Sky but still mild out in a gentle breeze.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,150 ✭✭✭Deep Easterly


    Must be a resolution issue on met.ie radar because the drizzle showing up ok on the Weatheronline radar:

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    Neither radar is reading it as crap here as it is. Drizzly mucky mumble grumble of a day. Yesterday and last night were just sent to tease us!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Must be a resolution issue on met.ie radar...

    Not an issue with the radar as such, issues with the humans rather :D . If you remember the uproar about the change of radar imagery on last years upgrade, some people were giving out that it was showing rain over them when there wasn't any. This was due to evaporation of rainfall in the last 500m, which happens regularly in summer.

    To counteract this, I suspect, Met Eireann dropped all echoes returning below a measurement of 0.2mm/hr from the radar to suit the customer. Now, that we are in winter, the drizzle is not being detected - or so we think!

    In reality, it is being detected, but the computer that renders the imagery for the web drops the colour coding to keep us happy as per order in the summer.

    The other radars just include a colour for the 0.1mm/hr rate whereas our radar doesn't. In the summer people will probably be giving out about the other radars showing rain where there isn't any and Met Eireanns will be fine...

    Geddit? :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    That would be it Danno, Met Eireann evidently have a much higher threshhold than reality on their website.

    I would rank the online rain radars in terms of Veracity as follows:

    1. Deep Easterlys http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-app/radar?CONT=ukuk&CREG=nir
    2. Raintoday.co.uk http://www.raintoday.co.uk/
    3. Met Eireann http://www.met.ie/latest/rainfall_radar.asp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,032 ✭✭✭Tom Cruises Left Nut


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    That would be it Danno, Met Eireann evidently have a much higher threshhold than reality on their website.

    I would rank the online rain radars in terms of Veracity as follows:

    1. Deep Easterlys http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-app/radar?CONT=ukuk&CREG=nir
    2. Raintoday.co.uk http://www.raintoday.co.uk/
    3. Met Eireann http://www.met.ie/latest/rainfall_radar.asp

    Whatabout the netweather one ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Link?


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭mcriot29


    No words neededindex.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=126584


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Same here too, in Galway. Now ye know why I want weather radars on hills overlooking the atlantic at Schull and Dooncarton and not miles inland at airports ...shielded by hills :)

    Well, Sponge, we have the opposite problem here!

    The ME radar often shows rain when in fact there is none falling :)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Possibly a localised Sandyford Foehn effect Bill. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭weathermaiden


    mcriot29 wrote: »
    No words neededindex.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=126584

    :eek: Is this real???


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Possibly a localised Sandyford Foehn effect Bill. :)

    Thanks Sponge. You are a veritable cornucopia of information ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    :eek: Is this real???

    no its just one of those weird reversed charts , i think someone posted the same sort of chart a while back.And anyway thatd be ice age sort of stuff:p -68C in ireland and temps of -50C over the whole of africa:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Northclare


    mcriot29 wrote: »
    No words neededindex.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=126584

    :eek: Is this real???

    This is a joke Right were all frozen to the spot LOL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Northclare


    mcriot29 wrote: »
    No words neededindex.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=126584

    :eek: Is this real???

    This is a joke Right were all frozen to the spot LOL


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    no its just one of those weird reversed charts , i think someone posted the same sort of chart a while back.And anyway thats be ice age sort of stuff:p -68 in ireland and temps of -50 over the whole of africa:p

    I think those temps are in the stratosphere! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 671 ✭✭✭NIALL D


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    no its just one of those weird reversed charts , i think someone posted the same sort of chart a while back.And anyway thats be ice age sort of stuff:p -68 in ireland and temps of -50 over the whole of africa:p

    temp at 10hpa stratosphere.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Lads that is a chart of temperatures in the stratosphere!!

    Although a chart like that is showing good signs, but not the cold part over us! But the generally heating up of the stratosphere is thought to increase the liklihood of high altitude blocking especially during intense warming, the warming takes a number of weeks to reach the troposphere and sometimes doesn't even make it there.

    It is a relatively new branch of forecasting theory.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Wild Bill wrote: »
    Thanks Sponge. You are a veritable cornucopia of information ;)

    cor·nu·co·pi·a/ˌkôrn(y)əˈkōpēə/
    Noun:
    A symbol of plenty consisting of a goat's horn overflowing with flowers, fruit, and corn.
    An ornamental container shaped like such a horn.

    for anyone like me who didnt know what that strange word meant;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭mcriot29


    Wild Bill wrote: »
    bb1234567 wrote: »
    no its just one of those weird reversed charts , i think someone posted the same sort of chart a while back.And anyway thats be ice age sort of stuff:p -68 in ireland and temps of -50 over the whole of africa:p

    I think those temps are in the stratosphere! :D
    Spot on bill its real and it the stratosphere


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Bishop_Donal


    Ah this is the pits.

    The forecast for the next five days can be summarised as follows: 'No weather'. Even Met Eireann can predict this one.

    I'm getting close to breaking point. Where is all the stuff about no sunspots giving us a bit of decent winter weather gone? Maybe someone needs to start the Summer 2012 thread.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    A Maybe someone needs to start the Summer 2012 thread.

    There won't be any summer :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭mcriot29


    Ah this is the pits.

    The forecast for the next five days can be summarised as follows: 'No weather'. Even Met Eireann can predict this one.

    I'm getting close to breaking point. Where is all the stuff about no sunspots giving us a bit of decent winter weather gone? Maybe someone needs to start the Summer 2012 thread.
    Sunspots are a lot higher this year so maybe this is why jetstream is so far north this winter , if sunspots help give us colder winters we will have to wait till they peak and start going back down , should be very low by 2017 , even in mini ice age there was some very mIld winters , dOnt write this winter off yet we have a good 7 weeks yet to go
    I find any snow in march does not last long ,i rem some great snow events in feb .
    We got some greatsnow last dec and nov but rest of winter was crapy so maybe this year feb wil be the big freeze.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Wild Bill wrote: »
    Thanks Sponge. You are a veritable cornucopia of information ;)

    A more likely reason is all the Wireless equipment broadcasting up in Sandyford as I explained here in this forum last year when people noticed interference on the Met Radars.

    http://www.wi-fi.org/files/FCC_Memorandum_on_UNII_Device_Operation_2010_07_27-M.pdf
    The Federal Communications Commission (FCC), the National Telecommunications and
    Information Administration (NTIA) and the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) have
    been investigating interference caused to Terminal Doppler Weather Radar (TDWR)
    systems operating in the 5600-5650 MHz band. TDWRs are used to detect wind shear
    and other weather conditions near airports. The interference manifests itself as a strobe
    line or lines on the radar display.
    While the radar continues to be usable, such
    interference is unacceptable and must be eliminated. More importantly, if the
    interference were to become severe, there may be a potential for missed alerts or false
    alarms.
    We have found that the interference at each location has generally been caused by a few
    fixed wireless transmitters used by wireless internet service providers (WISPs) and
    operating outdoors in the vicinity of airports at high elevations that are line-of-sight to the
    TDWR installations (5 GHz outdoor network equipment). In most instances, the
    interference is caused by operations in the same frequency band as TDWRs, but there are
    some instances where the interference is caused by adjacent band emissions.


    (yadda)

    In other instances, equipment that met the FCC’s certification standards nonetheless
    caused interference, due to a variety of factors such as: the configuration of the
    transmitter, its height and azimuth relative to the TDWR, and the device’s failure to
    detect and avoid the radar signal.
    In such cases, the FCC’s rules still require the
    elimination of the interference and the FCC has taken appropriate action in those cases.

    So as long as Broadband in Ireland is crap you will always have a raincloud in Sandyford Bill! :)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    A more likely reason is all the Wireless equipment broadcasting up in Sandyford as I explained here last year when people noticed interference on the Met Radars.

    I just know you won't be either surprised or offended when I say I haven't a clue what that post is about :cool:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Is there a big mast bristling with radio gear near you Bill ...and can you linkee poos on Google Maps?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭blackius


    According to matt Hugo on twitter, (who apart from being a good poster on NW,is also a forecaster for a private met service) the ecm ensemble members are split. 50:50 with half having us in a bitter northeaster from t192 caused by high pressure to the Northwest.
    Matt through his job has access to all the ecm data we don't (imho the best nwp) so he'd know.
    Interesting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 836 ✭✭✭derekon


    blackius wrote: »
    According to matt Hugo on twitter, (who apart from being a good poster on NW,is also a forecaster for a private met service) the ecm ensemble members are split. 50:50 with half having us in a bitter northeaster from t192 caused by high pressure to the Northwest.
    Matt through his job has access to all the ecm data we don't (imho the best nwp) so he'd know.
    Interesting.

    Thanks Blackius, can we follow Matt Hugo on Twitter. I have tried to find him but to no avail. Do you have a link ?

    D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 258 ✭✭Lady_North1


    derekon wrote: »
    blackius wrote: »
    According to matt Hugo on twitter, (who apart from being a good poster on NW,is also a forecaster for a private met service) the ecm ensemble members are split. 50:50 with half having us in a bitter northeaster from t192 caused by high pressure to the Northwest.
    Matt through his job has access to all the ecm data we don't (imho the best nwp) so he'd know.
    Interesting.

    Thanks Blackius, can we follow Matt Hugo on Twitter. I have tried to find him but to no avail. Do you have a link ?

    D
    Try @Matthugo81
    Think that's him.


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