Racist Ireland

Leftist · 05-01-2012 01:49PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

If someone has for arguments sake, had 10 negative experiences with taxis and in all ten cases the drivers happened to be black, is it wrong for that person, consciously or not, to avoid taxis driven by black drivers in the future?

yeah, what if indeed. What if 10 different black taxi drivers behaved in the exact same offensive way. because that's exactly what they're likely to do too.

Topper Harley · 05-01-2012 01:49PM

Leftist wrote: »

Unfortunetly it's in most irish people, especially in the direction of your location (if your username is an accurate indication).

Minstrel27 wrote: »

What qualifies you to make that sweeping statement?

Leftist wrote: »

classic irish victim mentality that.

Lets ignore racism from irish people towards blacks and turn it into oppression of poor white irish people.

@Leftist - you haven't answered Minstrel27's question. You made a sweeping statement that most Irish people are racist and when challenged on this you got defensive. You accused Minstrel27 of "having classic irish victim mentality" when you seem to have a bit of a "victim mentality" yourself.

There is undoubtably racism in Ireland and this should not be tolerated but again, what qualifies you to make such a sweeping statement, that racism is in most Irish people?

suicide_circus · 05-01-2012 01:51PM

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

Not true. I work with black people and hang out with a few at my local. We say black and white, no big deal.

You must remember up to a few years back, the PC brigade viewed it as unacceptable for white people to say black people, so you cant blame people to failing to keep up to date as the rules can change

limerickbanter · 05-01-2012 01:51PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

some Irish do not like travelers, based on previous experience. with nigerians its no different. why suffer in silence and pay for the priveledge?

i would distinguish between a dark skinned african and a nigerian. if you are around them long enough you recognise the differences. i find it hilarious that three nigerians could use the same ID and Irish people would not recognise teh difference

Are u serious, Thats simply saying that all nigerians look alike of course you can distinguish black people same as white people or any other race. Im of Jamaican decent we dont all look the same, like nigerians, or any other black nationality. You make my blood boil with anger that is disguisting, black people are beautiful people. If you cant see this educate yourself!

Leftist · 05-01-2012 01:52PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

some Irish do not like travelers, based on previous experience. with nigerians its no different. why suffer in silence and pay for the priveledge?

i would distinguish between a dark skinned african and a nigerian. if you are around them long enough you recognise the differences.

Really? you would recognise the difference, based on appearance between a nigerian and senegalese or congolese?

Oh but the fact that people treat travellers as second class citizens is enough reason for the blacks to shut up moaning.

It's unbelievable. and some cretin has just after suggesting that we can't even say black ice as a means to degrade the damage racism can do to a community.

suicide_circus · 05-01-2012 01:52PM

Leftist wrote: »

yeah, what if indeed. What if 10 different black taxi drivers behaved in the exact same offensive way. because that's exactly what they're likely to do too.

My question was of course a hypothetical one, would you care to answer it?

Bottle_of_Smoke · 05-01-2012 01:54PM

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

Not true. I work with black people and hang out with a few at my local. We say black and white, no big deal.

That's generally how it works. And black is actually the PC term to use. Whereas I lived with a Dutch guy who referred to them as Negroes. Germans say Farber I think which literally means "coloured" in English (and non-PC here) whereas there "Schwarzer" which is kind of like a one word translation of "Black person" is not PC.

That all said, I think a lot of peopel aren't sure if "black" is PC here, I remember working in an office and had to talk to a girl in another sub-department, had never met her but had access to her notes on accounts. I asked someone what she looks like and the person I ask covers her mouth and whispers "she's the black girl on the team". Another black girl sat behind me at the time and I think my teammate was afraid it was an offensive term, or even that referring to someone by their skin colour was racist.

That kind of insanity is proof to me the Irish as a group are so far from racism its laughable to suggest otherwise

Leftist · 05-01-2012 01:55PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

My question was of course a hypothetical one, would you care to answer it?

it's a stupid question.

You are basically asking me if black people acted all the same could I then form an opinion of them based on their race.

IT's like asking if every Protestant you met was rude, would you think protestants were rude.

Why would they all be rude? it's absolute horse ****.

Fuinseog · 05-01-2012 01:55PM

I will not use a taxi driven by a nigerian.

they are rude, generally do not know where they are going, play their music too loud and try to rip you off. a girl alone with one of them is asking for trouble.

even in africa these people are regarded as crook and con men or so I am been told by my African friends, but people here are afraid to say anything in case they are labelled racist. its time to call a spade a spade, if you will pardon the pun.

while the dude in Naas should have expressed himself in more diplomatic fashion he spoke the truth.

some folks will argue that you cannot generalise about nigerians. for me its like the travellers. some of them may be decent, but I will be on mz guard, based on personal experience. i find it gas the way some people speak of 'knackers' but will not tolerate a bad word against 'blacks'

mod: banned.

BraziliaNZ · 05-01-2012 01:57PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

You must remember up to a few years back, the PC brigade viewed it as unacceptable for white people to say black people, so you cant blame people to failing to keep up to date as the rules can change

I think that's only in the states. I was in US recently and someone asked me if we have African American people in the UK. Dear oh dear...

Fuinseog · 05-01-2012 01:58PM

Leftist wrote: »

Really? you would recognise the difference, based on appearance between a nigerian and senegalese or congolese?

Oh but the fact that people treat travellers as second class citizens is enough reason for the blacks to shut up moaning.

It's unbelievable. and some cretin has just after suggesting that we can't even say black ice as a means to degrade the damage racism can do to a community.

its not a good idea to refer to other posters as cretins, but if thats the level you are at.....

freeze4real · 05-01-2012 01:59PM

So is this thread about taxi noes ?

Back to the subject. Is Ireland rascist yes it's.

I've been on the bus and when the bus is full the last place one sit is beside the foreigner and some would rather stand than to sit next to a foreigner.

When I mean foreigner I'm not talking about Easter Europeans enemy though they're I talking about Africans Indians pakistans etc.

The thing most people don't not do it on purpose, some dont know they even do it.

Subconsciously they're being rascist.

Fear Uladh · 05-01-2012 01:59PM

Leftist wrote: »

Jesus Christ.

FENTON!!

Leftist · 05-01-2012 02:00PM

Fuinseog wrote: »

while the dude in Naas should have expressed himself in more diplomatic fashion he spoke the truth.

The truth?

here's the transcript:

I just made the decision, a conscious decision, earlier this year, that I just was not going to, myself personally, was not going to take on representations from black Africans.

Forget you. You're a lost cause.

suicide_circus · 05-01-2012 02:01PM

Leftist wrote: »

it's a stupid question.

You are basically asking me if black people acted all the same could I then form an opinion of them based on their race.

IT's like asking if every Protestant you met was rude, would you think protestants were rude.

Why would they all be rude? it's absolute horse ****.

So what youre saying is, when it comes to groups of people, you are incapable or unwilling to learn and make judgements based on past experiences. In evolutionary terms thats quite an unfortunate trait, perhaps youre missing a chromosome?

Fuinseog · 05-01-2012 02:02PM

freeze4real wrote: »

So is this thread about taxi noes ?

Back to the subject. Is Ireland rascist yes it's.

I've been on the bus and when the bus is full the last place one sit is beside the foreigner and some would rather stand than to sit next to a foreigner.

When I mean foreigner I'm not talking about Easter Europeans enemy though they're I talking about Africans Indians pakistans etc.

The thing most people don't not do it on purpose, some dont know they even do it.

Subconsciously they're being rascist.

never noticed that one to be honest. I certainly have no problem with it, even it they have their bag on the empty seat I will still request space, which they sometime only grudgingly give.

dr.bollocko · 05-01-2012 02:04PM

Fuinseog banned.

Leftist · 05-01-2012 02:05PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

So what youre saying is, when it comes to groups of people, you are incapable or unwilling to learn and make judgements based on past experiences. In evolutionary terms thats quite an unfortunate trait, perhaps youre missing a chromosome?

Yes, the fact that I am not willing to associate an entire race with a couple of unsavoury individuals makes me unevolved.

Brilliant stuff.

BNP called. Wants to know if you can stop embarrasing them.

Doc Ruby · 05-01-2012 02:05PM

Leftist wrote: »

Irish people have a strong reputation for racism. As emigrants to USA, Uk and Australia.
It comes from our enviroment, which was dominated by one race, one religion and sectarianism.

Oh would you ever fuck off. Between this nonsense and the thread about fat Irish people, maybe you could go post on a website in the UK rather than trolling this one like a good lad.

Doc Ruby · 05-01-2012 02:07PM

Leftist wrote: »

Irish people have a strong reputation for racism.

Leftist wrote: »

Yes, the fact that I am not willing to associate an entire race with a couple of unsavoury individuals

...unless they happen to be Irish right?

NIMAN · 05-01-2012 02:08PM

Every country has racists. Ireland is no different.

End of.

limerickbanter · 05-01-2012 02:09PM

Doc Ruby wrote: »

...unless they happen to be Irish right?

excuse me for interupting your little rant, free speech is what I believed everyone is entitled to and I think your missing the point completely!

Oranage2 · 05-01-2012 02:11PM

I think you are full of bull Leftist - I'm mixed race and rarely suffer racism -

suicide_circus · 05-01-2012 02:12PM

Leftist wrote: »

Yes, the fact that I am not willing to associate an entire race with a couple of unsavoury individuals makes me unevolved.

Brilliant stuff.

BNP called. Wants to know if you can stop embarrasing them.

BNP eh?
Perhaps you'd like to call me a nazi next?

Topper Harley · 05-01-2012 02:18PM

Doc Ruby wrote: »

...unless they happen to be Irish right?

There are only two things I hate: people who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Irish.:rolleyes:

But in fairness Irish isn't a race.

While I applaud Leftist's contempt of racism, I think he's going too far in his crusade, in accusing most Irish people of being racist. while there is undoubtably racism in Ireland (and any is too much) I think Leftist's accusations are exaggerated and unfounded.

Freddie59 · 05-01-2012 02:19PM

Leftist wrote: »

Wait until you read the replies to that from the knuckle draggers.

The thread about the FG mayor of naas really brought them out of their holes.

Irish people have a strong reputation for racism. As emigrants to USA, Uk and Australia.
It comes from our enviroment, which was dominated by one race, one religion and sectarianism.

Interesting to see he describes himself as a 'coloured man'. Alan Hansen was deemed a racist for using this description recently. It really is a funny ole world.

limerickbanter · 05-01-2012 02:20PM

I think nobody should be PC, if someone called me coloured it would affend me. Im black call me black! What Id advise is to get in that black taxi drivers car hes not gonna kill you, sit beside that person of colour on the bus whatever nationality there not gonna bite. Appreciate our differences Ireland has come along way since I was growing up. Im black but I class myself as Irish, proud of that. Read up on what black people had to go threw. Be more tolerant and acceptant. Always remember the irish were once imigrants and are again now can you imagine your family member in australia recieving racism you wouldnt like it. So dont do it !

El Horseboxo · 05-01-2012 02:21PM

I always find the people that make the biggest noise about racism are people that have never experienced it and probably never witnessed any.

As a non white living in Ireland I can honestly say I don't find Irish people racist on the whole. Of course there are some idiots that will use ones race when arguing or just being a scumbag in general. If a different color or race wasn't available to them they'd use something else. To me racism isn't the real motivation for a lot of the instances of racism reported.

I actually find Ireland very PC about stuff like that. I was out recently and a girl asked me where I was from and general inquisitive questions about my race while we were talking. I then heard her friend a while later tell her not to be asking that as it's a bit racist. What a load of bollix. Had to say it to the girl that she should have no worries asking those types of questions.

Leftist · 05-01-2012 02:23PM

Doc Ruby wrote: »

...unless they happen to be Irish right?

poor irish again. Weep for erin on a cliff of potatos for me. 800 years of oppression. Nobody knows the troubles we've seen.

give me a break.

Leftist · 05-01-2012 02:26PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

BNP eh?
Perhaps you'd like to call me a nazi next?

why don't you delve more into your 10 black men theory.

So kids, if 10/10 black people are bad, are all black people to be avoided?

If you disagree you are evolutionarily inferior.

Belgium called, wants to know if you can take the congo back for them?

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