Legalise and tax soft drugs

forfuxsake · 04-01-2012 10:55PM #1

I am sure that this has been suggested but as marijuana can be produced for near nowt, then why not legalise it and tax it for the following reasons.

1. The tax revenue would be enormous
2. Most soft drugs are no more harmful than alcohol, tobacco, fatty foods, driving etc.
3. The Netherlands has just introduced a ban on foreigners smoking. Tourism would increase dramatically.
4. It would lead to the creation of proftiable new businesses in every town in Ireland.

ROFLcopter · 04-01-2012 10:58PM

Including an influx of scangers from all over the world, I think we've enough here thanks

forfuxsake · 04-01-2012 11:00PM

ROFLcopter wrote: »

Including an influx of scangers from all over the world, I think we've enough here thanks

Preferable to the IMF, if they can fly here, afford a hotel room and to eat, drink and party then we would be fools to turn them away.

doomed · 04-01-2012 11:03PM

forfuxsake wrote: »

I am sure that this has been suggested but as marijuana can be produced for near nowt, then why not legalise it and tax it for the following reasons.

1. The tax revenue would be enormous
.

As long as everyone is not too stoned to go to the pub.

forfuxsake · 04-01-2012 11:08PM

doomed wrote: »

As long as everyone is not too stoned to go to the pub.

Then they will go to the chipper/kfc/pizza/centra etc

Funfair · 04-01-2012 11:09PM

doomed wrote: »

As long as everyone is not too stoned to go to the pub.

It will be much the same as it is now as 40% of people seem to be on some form of illegal drug as it stands..

Caveman1 · 04-01-2012 11:15PM

I don't do any drugs but I think it should be legalised, the only thing is though is where would it stop, next thing ya no your local spar will be selling heroin

I've been to Amsterdam and its run pretty well considering what goes on, it's at least worth a trial run

forfuxsake · 04-01-2012 11:17PM

Funfair wrote: »

It will be much the same as it is now as 40% of people seem to be on some form of illegal drug as it stands..

untaxed!

Suryavarman · 04-01-2012 11:24PM

Caveman1 wrote: »

I don't do any drugs but I think it should be legalised, the only thing is though is where would it stop, next thing ya no your local spar will be selling heroin
I've been to Amsterdam and its run pretty well considering what goes on, it's at least worth a trial run

Whats wrong with the local spar selling heroin? They're already selling fags without much trouble.

paddyandy · 04-01-2012 11:24PM

A whole new raft of problems from legalising drugs...it has'nt worked anywhere .Ireland would draw a very sinister kind of attention from crime gangs around the world .We have plenty enough problems as it is .Visit Brixton in south London and hear of tales to make you shudder . I lived over there .

Oddjob · 04-01-2012 11:24PM

forfuxsake wrote: »

I am sure that this has been suggested but as marijuana can be produced for near nowt, then why not legalise it and tax it for the following reasons.

1. The tax revenue would be enormous
2. Most soft drugs are no more harmful than alcohol, tobacco, fatty foods, driving etc.
3. The Netherlands has just introduced a ban on foreigners smoking. Tourism would increase dramatically.
4. It would lead to the creation of proftiable new businesses in every town in Ireland.

Typical teenage argument. The vast majority of people who drink, don't do it to get drunk, they enjoy it, they have it with a meal etc.

Drugs exist solely alter to your mind, if they didn't, you wouldn't buy them.

Tax revenue would be negligible.

Holland has stopped foreigners buying weed as they're a nuisance and contribute nothing to the local economy.

Do you really want tourists coming here to live on €6 a day to get wasted?

What businesses would be created?

Caveman1 · 04-01-2012 11:31PM

Suryavarman wrote: »

Whats wrong with the local spar selling heroin? They're already selling fags without much trouble.

Well I could be wrong but I'm not sure people resort to crime because they are strung out on cigarettes

GarIT · 04-01-2012 11:34PM

The government is clearly trying to eventually make smoking tobacco illegal. Soon there will be a ban on smoking near entrances to public buildings, then smoking in public, then just smoking. I don't see them making it illegal to smoke one thing and at the same time legal to smoke another.

forfuxsake · 04-01-2012 11:34PM

Oddjob wrote: »

Typical teenage argument. The vast majority of people who drink, don't do it to get drunk, they enjoy it, they have it with a meal etc.

You live in a different Ireland than me.

Suryavarman · 04-01-2012 11:37PM

paddyandy wrote: »

A whole new raft of problems from legalising drugs...it has'nt worked anywhere .Ireland would draw a very sinister kind of attention from crime gangs around the world .We have plenty enough problems as it is .Visit Brixton in south London and hear of tales to make you shudder . I lived over there .

Yeah London has really gone down hill since it legalised drugs. O wait it didn't legalise drugs, so your argument is null and void.

Caveman1 wrote: »

Well I could be wrong but I'm not sure people resort to crime because they are strung out on cigarettes

The reason heroin addicts resort to crime is because it is so expensive. If it was legalised the price would fall dramatically and there would be a serious reduction in crime associated with drug use.

Oddjob · 04-01-2012 11:37PM

forfuxsake wrote: »

You live in a different Ireland than me.

I'm not 17.

forfuxsake · 04-01-2012 11:37PM

paddyandy wrote: »

A whole new raft of problems from legalising drugs...it has'nt worked anywhere .Ireland would draw a very sinister kind of attention from crime gangs around the world .We have plenty enough problems as it is .Visit Brixton in south London and hear of tales to make you shudder . I lived over there .

whilst not exactly legalising, the decriminalisation of soft drugs has prved very successful in a number of countries (Portugal, the Netherlands, the Czech Republic)

If it isn't too complicated why not read this and expand your mind a little

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1893946,00.html

mattjack · 04-01-2012 11:39PM

forfuxsake wrote: »

You live in a different Ireland than me.

Norn Ireland,Republic of Ireland and er..? Is there three ?

forfuxsake · 04-01-2012 11:39PM

Oddjob wrote: »

I'm not 17.

neither are you representative, And if you think drinking to get drunk ends at 17 then you are even more a fool than your comments suggest.

forfuxsake · 04-01-2012 11:41PM

mattjack wrote: »

Norn Ireland,Republic of Ireland and er..? Is there three ?

IreLänder

seanbmc · 04-01-2012 11:43PM

forfuxsake wrote: »

I am sure that this has been suggested but as marijuana can be produced for near nowt, then why not legalise it and tax it for the following reasons.

1. The tax revenue would be enormous
2. Most soft drugs are no more harmful than alcohol, tobacco, fatty foods, driving etc.
3. The Netherlands has just introduced a ban on foreigners smoking. Tourism would increase dramatically.
4. It would lead to the creation of proftiable new businesses in every town in Ireland.

What do you consider soft drugs? Weed, mdma, acid? I'm very much for the legalisation of recreational drugs but it's not going to happen anytime soon. Perhaps in the future but I don't see it.

mattjack · 04-01-2012 11:44PM

forfuxsake wrote: »

IreLänder

I like that...

Kidchameleon · 04-01-2012 11:56PM

Well I'd imagine some country will jump on the chance of getting a large amount of Hollands tourists, only a matter of time before there's another Amsterdam. Id imagine Prague or somewhere in Portugal. Would much prefer it to be Dublin though

Oddjob · 05-01-2012 12:04AM

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Well I'd imagine some country will jump on the chance of getting a large amount of Hollands tourists, only a matter of time before there's another Amsterdam. Id imagine Prague or somewhere in Portugal. Would much prefer it to be Dublin though

Christ, more children. Nobody wants tourists spending €6 a day falling around the streets, They contribute nothing to the local economy, they spend no money.

paddyandy · 05-01-2012 12:09AM

Suryavarman wrote: »

Yeah London has really gone down hill since it legalised drugs. O wait it didn't legalise drugs, so your argument is null and void.

I never said drugs were legalised in London don't misconstrue !!!!!

The reason heroin addicts resort to crime is because it is so expensive. If it was legalised the price would fall dramatically and there would be a serious reduction in crime associated with drug use.

And a lot of accidents and heavy use of medical services to cancel any benefits out ...

seanbmc · 05-01-2012 12:11AM

Oddjob wrote: »

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Well I'd imagine some country will jump on the chance of getting a large amount of Hollands tourists, only a matter of time before there's another Amsterdam. Id imagine Prague or somewhere in Portugal. Would much prefer it to be Dublin though

Christ, more children. Nobody wants tourists spending €6 a day falling around the streets, They contribute nothing to the local economy, they spend no money.

More children? What are you on about?

seanbmc · 05-01-2012 12:11AM

Oddjob wrote: »

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Well I'd imagine some country will jump on the chance of getting a large amount of Hollands tourists, only a matter of time before there's another Amsterdam. Id imagine Prague or somewhere in Portugal. Would much prefer it to be Dublin though

Christ, more children. Nobody wants tourists spending €6 a day falling around the streets, They contribute nothing to the local economy, they spend no money.

More children? What are you on about?

n900guy · 05-01-2012 12:14AM

paddyandy wrote: »

A whole new raft of problems from legalising drugs...it has'nt worked anywhere .

Except Netherlands and Portugal which have seen massive reductions in drug dependency and regular drug use.

EDIT: Assuming that is what you want.

Suryavarman · 05-01-2012 12:15AM

paddyandy wrote: »

And a lot of accidents and heavy use of medical services to cancel any benefits out ...

Make them pay for the medical care they use then or even better just privatise healthcare.

Edit:It's not like they don't use medical care now anyway. If drugs were legalised it might even make treating drug overdoses easier as the doctors would know more about the drug and dosage taken.

paddyandy · 05-01-2012 12:18AM

Oddjob wrote: »

Christ, more children. Nobody wants tourists spending €6 a day falling around the streets, They contribute nothing to the local economy, they spend no money.

They do nothing for the economy and use up a lot of precious resources .
Normal tourist trade would stop arriving with our towns full of scruffy dopes .

paddyandy · 05-01-2012 12:20AM

Suryavarman wrote: »

Make them pay for the medical care they use then or even better just privatise healthcare.

Edit:It's not like they don't use medical care now anyway. If drugs were legalised it might even make treating drug overdoses easier as the doctors would know more about the drug and dosage taken.

EVER TRY TO GET A DRUG ADDICT TO PAY FOR ANYTHNG ???????

Legalise and tax soft drugs

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