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Why are most hotel workers not Irish ?

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  • #392
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    gigino wrote: »
    Perfectly consistent. Nobody claimed all hotel staff in Ireland were either foreign or Irish. Obviously the % of foreign staff in hotels will vary from hotel to hotel. I have given stastics ( census + CSO ) and examples perfectly plausible : you can offer nothing.

    You gave statistics which don't back your case. You did noticably fail to name the hotels your brother supposedly stayed in. The implication throughout was that foriegn nationals were the majority and this is not the case.


  • #393
    gigino
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭gigino


    Nodin wrote: »
    You gave statistics which don't back your case. You did noticably fail to name the hotels your brother supposedly stayed in. The implication throughout was that foriegn nationals were the majority and this is not the case.

    Read the statistics. Or better still go and stay in a number of hotels yourself. ;) Then report back.


  • #394
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    gigino wrote: »
    Read the statistics. .

    The ones that said 36% overall? Them ones?


  • #395
    gigino
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭gigino


    Nodin wrote: »
    The ones that said 36% overall? Them ones?
    all of them. Not just the 2006 ones;)
    Better still though go "in to the field". You will get a better smell of the marketplace.


  • #396
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    gigino wrote: »
    all of them. Not just the 2006 ones;)
    Better still though go "in to the field". You will get a better smell of the marketplace.

    Why would the numbers have increased with the economy in decline?


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  • #397
    gigino
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    Nodin wrote: »
    Why would the numbers have increased with the economy in decline?
    You mean "Why would the percentage have increased with the economy in decline". Read back through the thread. Ask the people involved. Do your own research. Use your own head.


  • #398
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    gigino wrote: »
    You mean "Why would the percentage have increased with the economy in decline". Read back through the thread. Ask the people involved. Do your own research. Use your own head.


    Why should I when I can invent a convenient anecdote to do the talking for me?

    The facts don't back you.


  • #399
    smash
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    gigino wrote: »
    Why are most hotel workers not Irish?

    Well it is the hospitality industry so appearance is part of it...


  • #400
    Leftist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    apparently, and this has been put forward by numerous people on this forum before, apparently the reason for this is because the foreigners, especially eastern europeans, have a cartel in operation, throughout the hospitality sector and local retail, where by they refuse to work with irish people. So they have brainwashed their irish employers to only hire foreign workers, most of whom cannot speak english and do not know how to have craic.


  • #401
    Judgement Day
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    Leftist - you clearly haven't bothered to read the thread properly.


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  • #402
    mattjack
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    gigino wrote: »
    You mean "Why would the percentage have increased with the economy in decline". Read back through the thread. Ask the people involved. Do your own research. Use your own head.

    If the Irish plumber charged you 80 euros for doing fcuk all ( nothing ? ) , who remedied the problem for you in the end and what was wrong ?


  • #403
    gigino
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭gigino


    mattjack wrote: »
    If the Irish plumber charged you 80 euros for doing fcuk all ( nothing ? )
    Nobody said the Irish plumber done nothing, he remidied a plumbing problem which took him only about 15 minutes tops.

    mattjack wrote: »
    what was wrong ?

    I am not going in to any more detail on the plumbing because its in the past and is anecdotal talk, which I have been attacked over. Its not that difficult I'm sure to find other Irish people in Ireland who have had a plumber who has had an 80 euro call out / repair charge. Next time I need a plumber I'm going for my neighbours recommendation, the newly arrived Polish plumber who only charged 25 euro. His prices may have still gone up to 35 or 40 euro but I'd prefer give it to him that the grumpy Irish plumber who charged 80 euro. Moral of the story ; shop around, ask neighbours + friends for recommendations.

    Now, back to the point of the thread. Did you read the statistics on hotel employees etc or better still go "in to the field"....you will get a better smell of the marketplace.


  • #404
    gbee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,384 ✭✭✭gbee


    Initially the foreigners worked for less money, it's THAT simple.

    Many a guest house said they'd have to close if they had to pay the going rate of minimum wages ~ and indeed we have seen many a hotel and guest house close.

    The second problem is that staff are recruited through agencies and not from open competition so vacancies are rarely advertised except as part of a publicity exercise so one can say they got 300 Poles to answer the ad and not one Irish person.

    Now, in bigger hotels and hotel chains you'll notice various races doing similar jobs and even on the high streets of Cork and Dublin a single race only policy emerging.

    It's a huge subject.


  • #405
    mattjack
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    gigino wrote: »
    Nobody said the Irish plumber done nothing, he remidied a plumbing problem which took him only about 15 minutes tops.







    gigino
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    Quote:

    No, he came out in early January when the thaw set it.

    And fair play to him, he was friendly, courteous, came on time, got paid, and the job worked. An Irish tradesman would have a face that would stop a bus if he only got paid 25 euro. I remember once paying a grumpy Irish plumber 80 euro for F*** all. There is a big lesson to be learned there. Next time I need a plumber I'll know where to go, on my neighbours recommendation. Of course the Polish fellow will probably have increased his prices by then

    :confused:


  • #406
    mattjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    Circles, we are going in them.

    Closing arguments please.

    Enough said.. I'm finished


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