Racism - Mod Note on 1st Post - Read before posting.

A friend of mine read the entire 115 page document from start to finish as he has been bed ridden for the last few days. He is a spurs fan and actually has little love for United or Liverpool (part of the "sky sports 4" in his view).

He thinks that its a very straightforward case and is for once impressed with how the independent comission, through the FA, came to a very rational and clear conclusion based on

• the clear and consistant information provided by Evra
• Information that was confirmed by fellow players, manager and Ref - ie what Evra said was exactly what happened.
• He didnt call Suarez a racist he clearly stated that he didnt understand what he was saying and thought that Negro meant N"""""
• Liverpool and Suarezs inconsistant story of events
• Liverpool players (think it was Kuyt and somebody else) changing of their statement of events.
• Liverpool changing their story and making up stuff like Evra getting pinched by Suarez and taking it upon himself to MAKE this all up. Even after Suarez admitted to saying Negro. the phrase has also been translated and in this context could not be considered to be an affectionate use of the term.

In truth, the Liverpool defence of Suarez was more to do with his importance to the team, as opposed to his innocence in this affair. I think they need Suarez to get CL and their choice of time to start the ban to include 4-5 cup games is perfect. Suarez will only miss a city game they were prob going to lose anyways and will miss a couple of handy league games, back in time for Spurs and United.

Nobody from United, including Evra, called Suarez racist, that was Liverpool that brought it up. Suarez might not be a racist person, but what he did was use racist insults to try and upset a player. Most players will use tactics to do the same thing (Zidane v Materrazi anyone?!) but Suarez chose the wrong subject that is simply unnaceptable in the game. I believe it was proven that the manner and context in which Suarez used Negro would not be considered acceptable in South America (again contrary to Liverpool propaganda).

For the Liverpool fans still clinging onto the last straw that somehow their club, manager and players acted in a remotely acceptable manner befitting a respectable club, there isnt much point in debating this with you anymore. Its clear from this case that Liverpool acted in a dispicable manner looking to make up stories and indeed foul the name of the sinned against party simply to protect their own interests.

Fair play to the FA for calling Liverpools bluff (ie Kenny "if there is so much evidence why dont the FA publish it?"). While the rest of us can see exactly how obvious the tactics of the Liverpool camp were to obstruct the comission, we might aswell leave the fans of the accused making up excuses and clutching at straws for some sort of comfort. Was it proven beyond reasonable doubt ? Not exactly, but the evidence couldnt paint a clearer picture of the actions of Liverpool FC.

Jamie Redknapp just on Sky "I dont think Liverpool really had a case". At last some Liverpool pundits can actually see the forrest from the trees.

Keno 92 wrote: »

I'd be embarrassed to be a part of LFC over the last few months.

You can only be embarrassed if you know that you have done something wrong.

Liverpool dug a hole of lies and went too far to dig themselves out of it.

The FA called their bluff and released information that shows the club up in a very poor light. Liverpool FC have not refuted the information disclosed which can only mean its fairly accurate to how events unfolded. Then they have the cheek to say that the FA has tarnished their name because they released information highlighting the awful way in which Liverpool and their staff tried to lie their way through this affair.

The first thing that Liverpool have done to grasp some semblence of respect out of this is to try and draw a line under it. The club, the manager, the players were wrong and acted in a manner that should not be encouraged.