Noise volume in clubs/bars/venues

Dermighty · 27-12-2011 07:54PM

Reardens...Cork city...

Ringing in my ears every time I go home afterwards.

I reckon if they had the noise levels professionally measured it'd be illegally high.

Yahew · 27-12-2011 07:55PM

ImpossibleDuck wrote: »

You're complaining that nightclubs are too loud. Nightclubs?

I'm not sure you've fully grasped the concept of nightclubs :pac:

Are they called Loud Music Clubs? The main problem is bars - I would go so far as to say that, except for live music, there should be no music at all - certainly not distorted mush from speakers where the sound is predominantly a distorted bass sound - the very frequency which makes it hard to hear people. If bars want to study music they should investigate how top end restaurants do it. Otherwise, can it.

Dionysus · 27-12-2011 07:57PM

guitarzero wrote: »

Wondering what take folks have on going out to disco bars, clubs and the like and how loud these places blare their music. The fact that I was shouting to the top of my lungs to be heard last night, and visa versa, is pretty bad considering the fact if you were to do that in a normal setting your ears would be ringing. Of course, you can choose not to go to these places but I dont think its something we really take into consideration we've grown so accustomed to it.

Listen, I'll say it once: if you are older than 20, and you're still going to these head-wreckingly noisy pubs and clubs, you're acting younger than your years.

Most of us are so beyond these nutcase commercialised days it's not funny.

Try The Gravediggers pub in Glasnevin for a tv-free pub experience, You can park your bicycle inside the pub at the front.

Hank_Jones · 27-12-2011 08:01PM

What pisses me off even more is when people are in chippers etc after being in a nightclub etc and are feckin shouting their heads off because their hearing hasn't readjusted.

Duckjob · 27-12-2011 08:01PM

Yeah I hate when people have to shout into your ear so closely that it hurts your eardum. Drives me mentle...

opinion guy · 27-12-2011 08:07PM

ImpossibleDuck wrote: »

You're complaining that nightclubs are too loud. Nightclubs?

I'm not sure you've fully grasped the concept of nightclubs :pac:

Was in one recently where people could be seen holding their ears in pain on the dance floor and then avoiding the dancefloor. Is that supposed to happen ?

44leto wrote: »

They are suppose to under law have safe levels of music.

Actually not 100% true. They are supposed to have them under certain limits for Health and Safety of staff - if staff don't complain there is no issue. Apart from that there are noise pollution laws whereby neighbours can complain - but since most clubs aren't in residential areas it doesn't happen. There are no laws to protect customers AFAIK, apparently its seen as your own choice to stay there.

I am a victim of high tone deafness and tinnitus but probably caused from rock concerts which I use to frequent.

Although my hearing functions well enough I would do anything to not have the problem, be careful.

Does anyone know where to get ear plugs that will take down the music noise but still allow you to converse ? I'm sure there are selective frequency ones etc I just don't know where to look

44leto · 27-12-2011 08:08PM

Last night I went to "The girl with the Dragon tattoo" I missed half the dialogue of the film, I couldn't hear or understand it. Now I read the books, so I could fill in the gaps, but if I hadn't I would have had to leave.

That is just a small example of the frustrations of high tone deafness. This is what constant loud music and loud Ipods will do to your hearing. You really don't want that to happen, believe me. If I had it again it wouldn't.

Kensington · 27-12-2011 08:08PM

Sky King wrote: »

Agreed. I have tinnitus from working in loud enviornments, which sucks.

I don't mind loud music in the right time / place but there's over doing it too. A venue in my local town actually has the music painfully loud... driving the speakers into distortion, ruining the sound (and presumably the hearing of everyone in the place.

And this place employs so called 'sound engineers' full time (who must be fking deaf jusging by the quality of the sound). I just don't understand it. The music would actually sound better turned down a bit.

Louder = better but only up to a point and then it actually starts detracting from the enjoyment of the place. These guys don;t seem to get it.

There's the sound engineer's opinion of good sound and there's the management's opinion of good sound. One is louder than the other - guess which one

Quite a few places where if the meters don't sit constantly in the red, it's not loud enough.
Unfortunately hitting the red causes clipping which makes it seem louder but this is down to distortion, which also happens to be particularly damaging to your hearing (that high pitched squeal in your head for hours, even days after you leave a place = music was dangerously loud) and, ironically, it eventually damages the sound system itself...

Fran1985 · 27-12-2011 08:13PM

guitarzero wrote: »

The fact that I was shouting to the top of my lungs to be heard last night, and visa versa

what is the "Visa Versa" of this sentence?

Dionysus wrote: »

Listen, I'll say it once: if you are older than 20, and you're still going to these head-wreckingly noisy pubs and clubs, you're acting younger than your years.

Most of us are so beyond these nutcase commercialised days it's not funny.

Try The Gravediggers pub in Glasnevin for a tv-free pub experience, You can park your bicycle inside the pub at the front.

Hmmm, i was gona reply with something else, but re-read the post and not quite sure if your a troll or not.

Yahew · 27-12-2011 09:56PM

Fran1985 wrote: »

what is the "Visa Versa" of this sentence?

People talking to him had to shout.

Hmmm, i was gona reply with something else, but re-read the post and not quite sure if your a troll or not.

I hate these kind of posts. Pointless.

heybert · 28-12-2011 07:29AM

It tickles when people shout in my ears in nightclubs.

TwoShedsJackson · 28-12-2011 08:59AM

The less you can hear, the less you talk and the faster you drink.

It's also why they never have enough seats or tables/ledges to put your drink, if you're standing and holding a drink in your hand, you'll drink it faster.

Irish Halo · 28-12-2011 12:13PM

opinion guy wrote: »

Does anyone know where to get ear plugs that will take down the music noise but still allow you to converse ? I'm sure there are selective frequency ones etc I just don't know where to look

ER20s, HMV sometimes sell branded versions for about a fiver (look in the headphone/accessories section, they're in a small black case with a massive HMV logo on it). They are easily found online though:
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/ACS-ER20-musician-earplugs-case-FREE-POST-ER-20-/230631568167
http://www.allearplugs.com/ear-plugs/musicians-earplugs/etymotic-er20-high-fidelity-earplugs-white.aspx

I wear them to gigs, keep the sound clear (the "normal" foam ones don't) but at a reasonable volume allowing you to hear conversation or the music properly. They are worth so much more than they cost, I'd probably have destroyed my ears/hearing by now without them.

celticcrash · 28-12-2011 12:34PM

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

The less you can hear, the less you talk and the faster you drink.

It's also why they never have enough seats or tables/ledges to put your drink, if you're standing and holding a drink in your hand, you'll drink it faster.

The faster the slops go down. and you cant taste it because your senses
are overwelmed already. So when you wakeup the next morning feeling like you have being f^^ked over. You actually have been f^^ked over.
And the thing is you paid for it.

opinion guy · 28-12-2011 01:42PM

Irish Halo wrote: »

ER20s, HMV sometimes sell branded versions for about a fiver (look in the headphone/accessories section, they're in a small black case with a massive HMV logo on it). They are easily found online though:
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/ACS-ER20-musician-earplugs-case-FREE-POST-ER-20-/230631568167
http://www.allearplugs.com/ear-plugs/musicians-earplugs/etymotic-er20-high-fidelity-earplugs-white.aspx

I wear them to gigs, keep the sound clear (the "normal" foam ones don't) but at a reasonable volume allowing you to hear conversation or the music properly. They are worth so much more than they cost, I'd probably have destroyed my ears/hearing by now without them.

Can people see them in your ears?

Nothingbetter2d · 28-12-2011 02:03PM

Posy wrote: »

I hate clubs and I'm not old. I prefer having a nice night in eating a big bag of Werther's Original, doing my knitting and listening to the gramophone.. oh wait, maybe I am old.

ah your not that old as you got one of those new fangled gramephones things...

in my house we put two tomcats in a bag together to get a bit of music going.

eire.man · 28-12-2011 02:32PM

opinion guy wrote: »

Irish Halo wrote: »

ER20s, HMV sometimes sell branded versions for about a fiver (look in the headphone/accessories section, they're in a small black case with a massive HMV logo on it). They are easily found online though:
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/ACS-ER20-musician-earplugs-case-FREE-POST-ER-20-/230631568167
http://www.allearplugs.com/ear-plugs/musicians-earplugs/etymotic-er20-high-fidelity-earplugs-white.aspx

I wear them to gigs, keep the sound clear (the "normal" foam ones don't) but at a reasonable volume allowing you to hear conversation or the music properly. They are worth so much more than they cost, I'd probably have destroyed my ears/hearing by now without them.

Can people see them in your ears?

WTF??

Firetrap · 28-12-2011 02:33PM

I've got tinnitus and it's horrible knowing I'll never hear silence again. You can snigger all you like about sitting by the fire with Werther's Originals and a cup of cocoa but I'd happily choose that if it meant that I could stop the ringing in my ears

eire.man · 28-12-2011 02:36PM

I was working in a bar for 3 weeks and each night the levels of sub to high end frequencies increased so bad that for first time in years my head and ears were actually sore after work and next day. I packed in the job the following day for that and the depressing level of drunkenness going on in there every night of the week!

opinion guy · 28-12-2011 02:44PM

eire.man wrote: »

WTF??

Some ear plugs sit deeped in the ear canal than others - as a result some are discrete and invisible, whilst others are visible to other people. I'd prefer that if I'm boogyin on down in the night club people can't see little antenna's coming out of my ears. That's not a look I'm lookin to rock out just yet:D

eire.man · 28-12-2011 03:40PM

opinion guy wrote: »

eire.man wrote: »

WTF??

Some ear plugs sit deeped in the ear canal than others - as a result some are discrete and invisible, whilst others are visible to other people. I'd prefer that if I'm boogyin on down in the night club people can't see little antenna's coming out of my ears. That's not a look I'm lookin to rock out just yet:D

so you'd rather "rock on" while damaging your ears instead of being seen to be protecting your hearing?

I repeat ; WTF

ps. if everyone around you were wearing them would you still be insisting you look cooler without them??

opinion guy · 28-12-2011 03:49PM

eire.man wrote: »

so you'd rather "rock on" while damaging your ears instead of being seen to be protecting your hearing?

I repeat ; WTF

ps. if everyone around you were wearing them would you still be insisting you look cooler without them??

I didn't say that ?!?!?!
I just want to know so I can prepare myself for the inevitable questioning from people if they are visible! Or find an alternative brand that is invisible.

Now do you want to actually contribute and give an answer ? Or are you just going to keep trolling me?

Irish Halo · 29-12-2011 01:53PM

opinion guy wrote: »

Can people see them in your ears?

They're €5, you expecting miracles? They are not very obvious but yeah people will see them.

Apparently you can get the specially moulded/invisible-ish ones ones for about €200 in Frank Cass & Sons (197 Lr.Kimmage Rd., Dublin 6w), I've been considering it for a while now but the ER20s do me fine. I also don't really care what others think if I have my earplugs in, I like live music and want to be liking it for a lot longer.

People who work in these kinds of environments should be demanding their employer buys them these and if they won't buy them yourself.

opinion guy · 29-12-2011 02:17PM

Irish Halo wrote: »

They're €5, you expecting miracles? They are not very obvious but yeah people will see them.

Christ almighty just asking a f**king question cause I want to know about the product before I go to the effort of tracking them down as you can be sure to gom's in HMV won't be able to tell me. Why all the attitude people ?

Apparently you can get the specially moulded/invisible-ish ones ones for about €200 in Frank Cass & Sons (197 Lr.Kimmage Rd., Dublin 6w), I've been considering it for a while now but the ER20s do me fine. I also don't really care what others think if I have my earplugs in, I like live music and want to be liking it for a lot longer.

People who work in these kinds of environments should be demanding their employer buys them these and if they won't buy them yourself.

Thanks for the info

Red Alert · 29-12-2011 03:34PM

I can't understand why pubs need to turn it up so loud (Messrs I'm looking at you!). It's actually very unpleasant, especially if the amps and speakers are not able for it.

On the other hand, at concerts and the cinema I do like it to be blisteringly loud, but only if the sound system is able to handle it. I've been at way too many gigs where the sound system was pushed way beyond its limit to make things "louder" i.e. more distorted.

TwoShedsJackson · 29-12-2011 03:38PM

Red Alert wrote: »

I can't understand why pubs need to turn it up so loud (Messrs I'm looking at you!). It's actually very unpleasant, especially if the amps and speakers are not able for it.

The less you can hear, the less you talk and the faster you drink.

...

eire.man · 29-12-2011 08:11PM

opinion guy wrote: »

Irish Halo wrote: »

They're €5, you expecting miracles? They are not very obvious but yeah people will see them.

Christ almighty just asking a f**king question cause I want to know about the product before I go to the effort of tracking them down as you can be sure to gom's in HMV won't be able to tell me. Why all the attitude people ?

Apparently you can get the specially moulded/invisible-ish ones ones for about €200 in Frank Cass & Sons (197 Lr.Kimmage Rd., Dublin 6w), I've been considering it for a while now but the ER20s do me fine. I also don't really care what others think if I have my earplugs in, I like live music and want to be liking it for a lot longer.

People who work in these kinds of environments should be demanding their employer buys them these and if they won't buy them yourself.

Thanks for the info

Ok ya, sorry for my attitude in my reply, I guess I hear so many people speaking pure horse **** concerning their hearing it makes me jump into defensive mode immediately

p1$$ed myself at your opening reply above and had to set the record straight away

opinion guy · 29-12-2011 08:14PM

eire.man wrote: »

Ok ya, sorry for my attitude in my reply, I guess I hear so many people speaking pure horse **** concerning their hearing it makes me jump into defensive mode immediately

p1$$ed myself at your opening reply above and had to set the record straight away

Lol...no worries. There may be an element of tongue-in-cheekness in my outrage if I'm honest

Noise volume in clubs/bars/venues

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