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Katie Taylor. Do you think you could beat her in a fight?

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭mathepac


    ... Maybe George Best is close but he never did it on the international stage like our Katie.
    It's her consistency and doggedness that's scary. Her semi-final against Queen Underwood last year has to rate as one of her greatest victories ever. The concerns about her having left her final behind her were ultimately unfounded.

    A move to 65kgs for the Olympics will put her up against more powerful women but I think as a natural 60kg boxer her speed, her tactics and overall ring-craft will see her through. The farce of making a current world and European pre-qualify for the Olympics is typical of the craziness of the Olympics of late.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Gawd
    This thread actually has me thinking. I hit a girl once, my sister and my father thumped my lights out, shouting you never hit a girl. Err it was effective I have never or would never hit a girl. Funny I seen my nephew get a similar telling when he hit my niece, but with no digs.

    Katie is epic, she is smart and a looker as well, I am hoping she enters the Olympics, she will defo be a winner of a medal, it may even be gold.

    But I genuinely think she would not stand a chance against me in a street fight, our strength difference is to great. I would win.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    44leto wrote: »
    Gawd
    our strength difference is to great. I would win.

    If that's all you're relying on, I'd say she's nothing to fear. In order to get sparring partners who can give her a contest, she works with the male high-performance squad and is well able for a strength difference.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    If that's all you're relying on, I'd say she's nothing to fear. In order to get sparring partners who can give her a contest, she works with the male high-performance squad and is well able for a strength difference.

    That is just boxing, I am 6 2 15stone and pretty strong, I reckon I could just toss her aside and kick. That is the same for most males, there is a strength difference.

    But when I think about it if she did connect with a punch, I may go down. I don't know and I would never under any circumstances find out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Do people find her sexy?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    44leto wrote: »
    That is just boxing, I am 6 2 15stone and pretty strong, I reckon I could just toss her aside and kick. That is the same for most males, there is a strength difference.

    But when I think about it if she did connect with a punch, I may go down. I don't know and I would never under any circumstances find out.

    I'm a little bigger, quite strong and a fairly experienced boxer. I'm pretty sure that we just wouldn't get a glove on her. If she was kind enough to stand still and not hit back, maybe I'd have a shot :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    Do people find her sexy?


    Yeah
    I definitely do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    Do people find her sexy?

    I think she's really pretty. I wouldn't be attracted to her, but that's probably more an age thing, she has the bad manners to be 16 years younger than me :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Chuck Norris wears a Katie Taylor nightie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,250 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Not a hope.

    Watched her spar one handed against decent sized male boxers and she nearly broke their ribs with the ferocity of her body shots.

    She is pure quality in terms of boxing...


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Katie Taylor loves football as well. A lot of people dont know, she could have been Irelands greatest International football player ever, but she chose to box and quit football. But before she quit she got a load of caps playing for the national team.

    Simply Katie is a phenomenon and our greatest athlete of all time.

    Enjoy watching her in London :)

    I saw one of her goals for Ireland, it was an absolute ****ing screamer from outside the box.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    I train Muay Thai kick boxing, I have a bag in my spare room even and I wouldnt be in any rush to get into a ring with her. She's absolute quality and one of our national sporting heros (is it sexist now to say Heroine?)

    She trains an art form, a skill. Its a game of speed and accuracy and power. In a street fight things are different. It gets ugly fast and the Sport of Kings is little use there really, the stronger heavier and bigger guy is likely to win unless the smaller person has some training. If she has *any* and I mean, a few months, Muay Thai training, then you can all forget it hahah. And say good bye to your nuts and liver while you are at it :)

    If it goes to the floor and she has any BrazilianJuiJitsu skills (the most common ground fighting skill).... oh dear. Having been in the fight game for a lot of years she may well have picked up the rudiments of these forms of self defence. Even without these, one clean body shot will leave you thinking twice about it. Forget the cliched right-hook-to-the-jaw. A body shot will drop someone faster than gravity. :)

    But in her chosen sport, she is without doubt the best in the world. Probably the most accomplished sportsperson in our history. She boxes in the Olympics shortly (we all hope!) and if she wins that its quite simply a whitewash, she's won everything continuously and consecutively. She will have no more worlds to conquer.


    DeV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    She is conditioned for boxing, and would naturally resort to a stance which would make taking her down pretty easy, even for someone with rudimentary takedown ability like me. Once the fight hit the ground she can have cardio for days, but it wouldn't help her when i am elbowing the face off her.

    In a boxing match her superior sports conditioning, speed, agility, footwork and head movement would basically render any attack i made moot as she punched my face until i fell over.

    I train with boxer's, with kickboxing and Thai boxing fighers. I train with wrestlers, BJJ players and Judoka.. And occasionally we get beginner's like you who think they can fight, it only takes a few minutes to persuade most men that in reality they can not fight a trained and conditioned fighter.

    She'd beat me, unless I got a clinch in which case I'd take her down and hopefully submit her - but tbh with her conditioning she'd be a nightmare - I think I'd still lose.

    Kudos to Kevin Duffy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    DeVore wrote: »

    She trains an art form, a skill. Its a game of speed and accuracy and power. In a street fight things are different. It gets ugly fast and the Sport of Kings is little use there really

    Whats your experience in "street fighting"?.

    Speaking with a lot of experience - boxer's are awesome on the street.
    DeVore wrote: »
    If it goes to the floor and she has any BrazilianJuiJitsu skills (the most common ground fighting skill)

    No its not, wrestling and judo vastly outnumber's BJJ.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    I train with boxer's, with kickboxing and Thai boxing fighers. I train with wrestlers, BJJ players and Judoka.. And occasionally we get beginner's like you who think they can fight, it only takes a few minutes to persuade most men that in reality they can not fight a trained and conditioned fighter.

    She'd beat me, unless I got a clinch in which case I'd take her down and hopefully submit her - but tbh with her conditioning she'd be a nightmare - I think I'd still lose.

    Kudos to Kevin Duffy.

    Off the top of my head, there's a 5 day period in London that covers the +105 in the Judo and Weightlifting, plus the division that (fingers crossed) she'll be fighting in. If you fancy the roadtrip..... ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,031 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    She kill me and im 16st and 6ft 2ins.

    Used to do bit of boxing and have huge respect for boxer's and martial arts.

    People think it easy, but it's not. Hoping get back into it during new year.

    Katie Taylor is credit to this country and even if she does not win Gold next summer she still go down as one of greatest in any sport for female.

    A true legend and from what I have seen a lovely person too.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭Anita Blow


    I'd teabag her to within an inch of her life


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    44leto wrote: »
    Yeah
    I definitely do.
    So you're into being dominated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 32,684 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    She's class.

    Savage football player, St. Catherine's were lucky to have her when she had the time to be playing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Off the top of my head, there's a 5 day period in London that covers the +105 in the Judo and Weightlifting, plus the division that (fingers crossed) she'll be fighting in. If you fancy the roadtrip..... ;)

    You know what, I have accommodation but I didn't apply for any tickets - tbh I haven't a pot to piss in at the moment.

    And hopefully we'll be cheering on Lisa Kearney (another female fighter) in the Judo.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    I doubt the vast, vast majority of us would get a fist close enough that she'd even feel the breeze, and she'd gut the lot of us. On the offchance we did connect with something, boxers just do not go down easily. I reckon it would be the most comprehensive embarrassment most of us ever endured. Boxing, street fighting, whatever. Fitness, endurance, speed, footwork, and sheer lack of the good sense to lose consciousness when it seems obvious to do so means I'd run as fast as I could, as far as I could, if the occasion ever arose.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    You know what, I have accommodation but I didn't apply for any tickets - tbh I haven't a pot to piss in at the moment.

    And hopefully we'll be cheering on Lisa Kearney (another female fighter) in the Judo.

    Depending on the weight Lisa's at, it could be the same day as the men's 105 and the whole day comes to as little as £65stg, tickets still available. The boxing is as little as £20. The Olympics may never again be something you can do in a long weekend from here.... ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭myflipflops


    MungBean wrote: »
    Is there no professional women's boxing ?

    Yes but it is very low profile, especially over here.

    Katie Taylor can make more money, have more success, get more press and gain more credibility for womens boxing by staying an amateur.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Depending on the weight Lisa's at, it could be the same day as the men's 105 and the whole day comes to as little as £65stg, tickets still available. The boxing is as little as £20. The Olympics may never again be something you can do in a long weekend from here.... ;)

    Lisa is -48kgs.

    Dammit, you have me excited!.

    Here is Lisa fighting in Dusseldorf.



    In the last three weeks she's fought in Japan and Tokyo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    I probably couldn't beat Katie Melua in a fight...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 295 ✭✭john t


    are fight dates and tickets out yet??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,044 ✭✭✭gcgirl


    Katie is an amazing athlete, I know a few guys who boxed in the club her dad runs, they would not step in to the ring because they knew they'd get whipped, she has been sparing against lads since she could walk basically and I can't see anyone beating her and as for the soccer too sublime.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭TheUsual


    Good luck to her.

    Men don't fight women. I had a big problem swinging at them in Martial Arts ... they were not happy.

    I lost.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭dr gonzo


    If she got tired pummeling me before I pissed myself, I would count myself lucky.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    DeVore wrote: »
    In a street fight things are different. It gets ugly fast and the Sport of Kings is little use there really, the stronger heavier and bigger guy is likely to win unless the smaller person has some training.
    Whats your experience in "street fighting"?.

    Speaking with a lot of experience - boxer's are awesome on the street.
    Yeah, lads the ultimate street fighter is the one running the other guy down with a car. Not advocating anything of the sort but when you get to that level, there aren't any rules, so comparing martial arts willies is a bit pointless.

    Katie Taylor makes me proud to be Irish, another in our long history of warrior women. I've been paying close attention to her career, and she is a legend in the making.


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