Why Celebrate Christmas?

Chuck Stone · 24-12-2011 01:38AM

Edal wrote: »

Well at least you're honest about it, and not making up some nonsense.

Maybe I'm an extremist, but I just despise the church and everything that's goes with it. Christmas means absolutely nothing to me.

Well I try to focus my annoyance on the institutional dysfunction of the Church rather than the people who attend (or don't attend) mass.

It's easier on the head.

Kim_Il_Jong · 24-12-2011 01:41AM

Christmas is about the birth of Jesus, and nothing else.

Nah, that was the original concept. Sometimes when things become popular the meaning gets lost and it turns into something else.

Edal · 24-12-2011 01:43AM

pconn062 wrote: »

Really?? Well fly fishing and the X factor mean nothing to me but I don't start a thread moaning about other people enjoying it, chill!!

Well you just missed the whole point then.

Some of the most discussed threads on boards.ie in 2011 were the anti-church threads. Yet the most celebrated calender day of the catholic church is 25th Dec, which everyone embraces fully.

Cowardly and pitiful.

Dave! · 24-12-2011 01:43AM

Edal wrote: »

I like to think I always treat everyone with respect everyday, and am generally a happy person. I can also party most days.

But it made me physically sick this week when my boss was the lovely guy for once. Like, get a bloody grip man. Was it really that hard to be nice? Did it really have to take the christmas buzz to make you 'sound'? And a lot more work was done and everyone went home the happier.

Aye, you seem like a hoot

Lighting up lives everywhere you grace with your presence

Biggins · 24-12-2011 01:45AM

Edal wrote: »

Well you just missed the whole point then.

Some of the most discussed threads on boards.ie in 2011 were the anti-church threads. Yet the most celebrated calender day of the catholic church is 25th Dec, which everyone embraces fully.

Cowardly and pitiful.

Originally Posted by Edal
I like to think I always treat everyone with respect everyday...

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Edal · 24-12-2011 01:46AM

Dave! wrote: »

Aye, you seem like a hoot

Lighting up lives everywhere you grace with your presence

Trust me, I really am.

The good news is that Jesus is coming back. The bad news is that he's really pissed off.

Frank Black · 24-12-2011 01:48AM

Kim_Il_Jong wrote: »

Christmas is about the birth of Jesus, and nothing else.

Nah, that was the original concept. Sometimes when things become popular the meaning gets lost and it turns into something else.

The original concept was the winter solstice actually.

Pherekydes · 24-12-2011 01:48AM

Edal wrote: »

Yet the most celebrated calender day of the catholic church is 25th Dec, which everyone embraces fully.

Cowardly and pitiful.

No it's not. Wrong again. I reckon you're trolling now.

Easter is the most important day in the Catholic church's calendar.

And stop using words like 'everyone'.

Edal · 24-12-2011 01:48AM

Biggins wrote: »

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Super-Rush · 24-12-2011 01:52AM

krudler wrote: »

everyone knows the true meaning of christmas, its when all people of all races come together and forget their petty differences to celebrate the night he rescued those poor people from Nakatomi Plaza. Our one true saviour, John McClane.

No its to celebrate the birth of Santa.

Biggins · 24-12-2011 01:54AM

Edal wrote: »

You

O' you flirt you.
Gis us a kiss ya big lug!

shannon_tek · 24-12-2011 02:01AM

In My opinion its our Thanks Giving. A great way to say thank you to your family and friends and all the people that have helped you through ther rough last Year. :cool:

Doc Ruby · 24-12-2011 02:35AM

Biggins wrote: »

Here's a clue - probably an education as it seems your sadly lacking in knowledge: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brumalia

Dates back considerably before the Romans as it turns out, but I don't know how much of that is online.

Paulor94 · 24-12-2011 02:36AM

Presents of course, we are all greedy basterds.

Biggins · 24-12-2011 02:38AM

Doc Ruby wrote: »

Dates back considerably before the Romans as it turns out, but I don't know how much of that is online.

With a good long search, I'm sure some historic written paper is out there for the reading.
We might have to blow the dust off it though! :pac:

philologos · 24-12-2011 08:56AM

Anyone can celebrate Christmas as far as I'm concerned.

Personally, I see it as a point to remember Jesus Christ, and what He achieved for us during the course of His life and recap over how God has blessed me in the last year, recap over how I've lived in the last year in terms of whether or not I've been living for God wholeheartedly and to set new goals for how I'm going to keep myself focused on God in the coming year. It'll also be about catching up with family and friends.

I have no interest in forcing others to agree with me, and we should be all willing to tolerate how others celebrate the season.

NinjaK · 24-12-2011 10:37AM

Edal make a good point, so many on here are against religion yet they support a religions holiday. Makes a joke of their arguments

cowzerp · 24-12-2011 10:59AM

Edal wrote: »

Christmas is about the birth of Jesus, and nothing else.

Saint Nicholas who was from Turkey inspired Santa Claus and died 800 years ago and is buried in Newtown Jerpoint in Kilkenny.

A bit of a farce the whole thing.

Hypocritical or what?

I celebrate Santa Day and thats all about the kids and families getting together, Religion means nothing to me and since my kids came along Santa Day was Born..

Happy Santa day all

Optimalprimerib · 24-12-2011 11:10AM

I don't go to mass except on Christmas, except this year I don't want to go as I feel guilty about not going all year. What would you do?

stovelid · 24-12-2011 11:31AM

Edal wrote: »

It's means absolutely nothing to me.

I agree. The feeling is gone, only you and I.

Tigger · 24-12-2011 01:05PM

It's the end of they year party it's been here since people realised that the days get longer and shorter and longer and they worked out the patterns

In this country our forefathers (and mothers) built big stone clocks to tell us the first and last day of the year

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newgrange

This yoke was built before the gaza pyramids and proves that we have been celebrating the end of year since at least 5,300 years ago

The Germanic engels and the normanic brits brought bits of their Yule to our shores with their everlasting trees ( donno if plastic counts)

The Romans brought their mithratic Greek capitation of a celebration that had been combined with a desert religion and a revolutionary movement and called it Christmas . So like always the old stayed and was glossed over with the new.

The question isn't what are non Christians doing celebrating Christmas its what are Christians doing worrying about other people and not following the teachings of their God.

Scanlas The 2nd · 24-12-2011 01:42PM

philologos wrote: »

Anyone can celebrate Christmas as far as I'm concerned.

Personally, I see it as a point to remember Jesus Christ, and what He achieved for us during the course of His life and recap over how God has blessed me in the last year, recap over how I've lived in the last year in terms of whether or not I've been living for God wholeheartedly and to set new goals for how I'm going to keep myself focused on God in the coming year. It'll also be about catching up with family and friends.

I have no interest in forcing others to agree with me, and we should be all willing to tolerate how others celebrate the season.

Cool so you won't have a problem with me celebrating Christmas by shooting Christmas shoppers in the head. It's a tradition in my house and I'm glad someone finally accepts it and shows tolerance to diversity.

Da Shins Kelly · 24-12-2011 01:43PM

NinjaK wrote: »

Edal make a good point, so many on here are against religion yet they support a religions holiday. Makes a joke of their arguments

Did you read any of the posts before you wrote this?

Ghost Buster · 24-12-2011 01:55PM

Edal wrote: »

But we're celebrating christmas and nothing more. When I was in national school a few years ago (the 80's), it was all about chistmas plays with the crib, the baby jesus and the 3 wise men. It's all bloody religious. Why stand for the cráp if you don't believe?

The end of the year is a totally different. It's the end of the year, the four seasons, the natural periods into which the year is divided by the equinoxes and solstices or atmospheric conditions. I can see myself celebrating that, and I do.

yes. getting drunk, eating lots, decorating a tree, giving presents and santa Clause are all bloody religion alright!!!!!

Ummmm. Which one exactly cos Im in!!!!!

Ghost Buster · 24-12-2011 02:28PM

Edal wrote: »

You

NinjaK wrote: »

Edal make a good point, so many on here are against religion yet they support a religions holiday. Makes a joke of their arguments

Im not into Norse mythology which is why I lock myself into a sensory isolation tank each Thorsday and Wodensday. Im no hypocrit I tells yer!!

44leto · 24-12-2011 02:31PM

Bunch of grinches
I don't particularly like this time of year, but others do, but on the bright side I get some time off work and I can drink and eat like a pig with no guilt.

So may it continue.

stovelid · 24-12-2011 02:52PM

OP, we can understand your incandescent fury at the crass consumption frenzy that abound at this time of year.

I'm sure your Ma and Da will get you that iPhone next year.

Celly Smunt · 24-12-2011 02:55PM

i am sick of christmas,i have to go out to liffey valley now and the thoughts are killing me :mad:

Johnny Foreigner · 24-12-2011 03:24PM

Edal wrote: »

I was passing a few of my neighbor's houses today with all the show-off christmas decorations up. They never go to mass, a few are anti-catholic, and some are actually atheists. The first people to slate the church with the all scandalous revelations.

Christmas is about the birth of Jesus, and nothing else.

Saint Nicholas who was from Turkey inspired Santa Claus and died 800 years ago and is buried in Newtown Jerpoint in Kilkenny.

A bit of a farce the whole thing.

Hypocritical or what?

I am an Atheist. I celebrate Christmas. To me Christmas has nothing to do with religion, it has become commercial. I just enjoy it as a holiday, where I have an excuse to drink and eat too much for a couple of days. I give some friends and family some presents. That is all it means to me. I think its nice for children to have the excitement of Santa coming, and opening presents on Christmas Day. But as you get older it has less meaning, or importance.

Maedbhish · 24-12-2011 03:58PM

Because it's Sir Isaac Newton's birthday!!

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