Why Celebrate Christmas?

Edal · 23-12-2011 11:47PM #1

I was passing a few of my neighbor's houses today with all the show-off christmas decorations up. They never go to mass, a few are anti-catholic, and some are actually atheists. The first people to slate the church with the all scandalous revelations.

Christmas is about the birth of Jesus, and nothing else.

Saint Nicholas who was from Turkey inspired Santa Claus and died 800 years ago and is buried in Newtown Jerpoint in Kilkenny.

A bit of a farce the whole thing.

Hypocritical or what?

23-12-2011 11:48PM

Edal wrote: »

Hypocritical or what?

"what"

Biggins · 23-12-2011 11:49PM

*sigh*

Actually considering Jesus was supposed to be born in the middle of the year or a Roman pagan festival, ye have little to gripe about?

BeerWolf · 23-12-2011 11:50PM

Doubt a large portion of people celebrate it for a religious reason, rather to enjoy a holiday where the whole family gets together... nothing wrong with that.

phasers · 23-12-2011 11:51PM

Christmas has been around in some way, shape or form long before Christianity.

Edal · 23-12-2011 11:51PM

Biggins wrote: »

*sigh*

Actually considering Jesus was supposed to be born in the middle of the year, ye have little to gripe about?

gripe? thought you were the one griping here all year about FF and the Catholic church?

Sorry, you're celebrating christmas and happy now. lol

23-12-2011 11:51PM

all hail mithras

the groutch · 23-12-2011 11:52PM

I celebrate when Christmas is over

Temptamperu · 23-12-2011 11:53PM

phasers wrote: »

Christmas has been around in some way, shape or form long before Christianity.

Now now, you dont want to hurt the christians tiny little feelings now.

(best not tell them about the fertility symbol in the sitting room with the angel on the top either)

23-12-2011 11:54PM

"Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen.... For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not."

Latchy · 23-12-2011 11:57PM

Amen !

Biggins · 23-12-2011 11:58PM

Edal wrote: »

gripe? thought you were the one griping here all year about FF and the Catholic church?

Sorry, you're celebrating christmas and happy now. lol

No - I'm celebrating a winter festival of renewal and gift sharing.

Here's a clue - probably an education as it seems your sadly lacking in knowledge: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brumalia

Brumalia was an ancient Roman solstice festival honoring Bacchus, generally held on 25 December and possibly related to the ancient Greek Lenaia (held in honour of Dionysus). The festival included drinking and merriment. The name is derived from the Latin word bruma, meaning "shortest day" or even "winter".

The Brumalia was also celebrated during the space of thirty days, commencing on 24 November. This was instituted by Romulus, who entertained the Senate during this time. During this feast, prophetic indications were taken of the prospects for the remaining part of the winter. According to Choricius of Gaza, Oration XIII, the festival was celebrated as late as the 6th century AD during the reign of Emperor Justinian I who otherwise persecuted paganism.

"How do you like them apples!"

The fact that a Rome organisation stole the winter festivals for their own propaganda and reasons, is indicative in itself!

Go education!

23-12-2011 11:59PM

Thos people you are referring to celebrate dec 25 mostly, not christmas.

The world celebrated before jesus much like how the world turned long before 4000 odd years ago.

L.Jenkins · 24-12-2011 12:03AM

The whole constructed idea of xmas lost it's appeal years ago. I see it as a family get together, a celebratory end to another year and a reason for a good session.

Benny_Cake · 24-12-2011 12:05AM

Edal wrote: »

I was passing a few of my neighbor's houses today with all the show-off christmas decorations up. They never go to mass, a few are anti-catholic, and some are actually atheists. The first people to slate the church with the all scandalous revelations.

Christmas is about the birth of Jesus, and nothing else.

Saint Nicholas who was from Turkey inspired Santa Claus and died 800 years ago and is buried in Newtown Jerpoint in Kilkenny.

A bit of a farce the whole thing.

Hypocritical or what?

Why do you care what your neighbours do? People attach their own meaning to holidays, live and let live. And it's highly unlikely that he's buried in Kilkenny, his shrine is in Bari, Italy.

Biggins · 24-12-2011 12:06AM

ItsThatManAgain wrote: »

The whole constructed idea of xmas lost it's appeal years ago. I see it as a family get together, a celebratory end to another year and a reason for a good session.

Spot on.

Edal · 24-12-2011 12:07AM

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

Thos people you are referring to celebrate dec 25 mostly, not christmas.

The world celebrated before jesus much like how the world turned long before 4000 odd years ago.

I don't. I always put my name forward to work on chistmas-eve and boxing day.

Why would you want to celebrate the 25th Dec? It's means absolutely nothing to me.

I can have dinner with my family most weekends, without the ridiculous pretentiousness, and it would mean a lot more too. I'll bring a gift if I feel like giving one.

Buceph · 24-12-2011 12:07AM

Is a troll post succesful if everyone in the thread ends up agreeing that the troll is a moron?

24-12-2011 12:07AM

Edal wrote: »

I don't. I always put my name forward to work on chistmas-eve and boxing day.

Why would you want to celebrate the 25th Dec? It's means absolutely nothing to me.

I can have dinner with my family most weekends, without the ridiculous pretentiousness, and it would mean a lot more too. I'll bring a gift if I feel like giving one.

mmm, ok thats good for you.

Edal · 24-12-2011 12:08AM

ItsThatManAgain wrote: »

The whole constructed idea of xmas lost it's appeal years ago. I see it as a family get together, a celebratory end to another year and a reason for a good session.

Thought that was called 'new year's eve'. I can see some meaning there.

L.Jenkins · 24-12-2011 12:08AM

Buceph wrote: »

Is a troll post succesful if everyone in the thread ends up agreeing that the troll is a moron?

Not a moron, but it did back fire just a tad.

Biggins · 24-12-2011 12:10AM

Edal wrote: »

I don't. I always put my name forward to work on chistmas-eve and boxing day.

Why would you want to celebrate the 25th Dec? It's means absolutely nothing to me.

I can have dinner with my family most weekends, without the ridiculous pretentiousness, and it would mean a lot more too. I'll bring a gift if I feel like giving one.

Good for you - however thats YOU.
You don't reflect everyone elses thoughts or opinions.
Please allow us to have our own.

L.Jenkins · 24-12-2011 12:10AM

Edal wrote: »

Thought that was called 'new year's eve'. I can see some meaning there.

I'd see New Years as the absolute end to a year, but why not extend the festivities. I'm sure everyone here has a large family and one night just doesn't cut it.

Edal · 24-12-2011 12:17AM

Biggins wrote: »

Good for you - however thats YOU.
You don't reflect everyone elses thoughts or opinions.
Please allow us to have our own.

Yes, hence my ?

Everyone at work was in a great mood for the last few days. I'd say we were more productive too.

It's all physiological really, and the 'mood' christmas creates . Why don't they have the maturity to be like this all year round?

GoldFour4 · 24-12-2011 12:20AM

I think Christmas lost its viewing as a religious time a long time ago. Parents had a priest over last week and he said himself that even without the religious aspect Christmas was a good way to break up the monotomy of winter.

Can you imagine how dull winter would be without christmas ?

LETHAL LADY · 24-12-2011 12:20AM

I just like all the twinkly lights. Twinkly lights make me happy.

Biggins · 24-12-2011 12:24AM

Edal wrote: »

...It's all physiological really, and the 'mood' christmas creates . Why don't they have the maturity to be like this all year round?

As you say, its all physiological - and there are no physiological constants alone.
Being human means hormonal changes, mood swings, environmental, family, work and other conditions that change minute to minute, day to day.
Due to that alone (besides other reasons which I'm sure others can come up with) life can be a rollercoaster within any given year.
The end of the year thus is in part a celebration of life, getting through the year hopefully in one piece and deliberative in setting aside same equal time to show love and gratefulness to one another for being there, giving love, time and charity in the previous months.

Edal · 24-12-2011 12:36AM

Biggins wrote: »

The end of the year thus is in part a celebration of life, getting through the year hopefully n one piece and deliberative in setting aside same equal time to show love and gratefulness to one another for being there, giving love, time and charity in the previous months.

But we're celebrating christmas and nothing more. When I was in national school a few years ago (the 80's), it was all about chistmas plays with the crib, the baby jesus and the 3 wise men. It's all bloody religious. Why stand for the cráp if you don't believe?

The end of the year is a totally different. It's the end of the year, the four seasons, the natural periods into which the year is divided by the equinoxes and solstices or atmospheric conditions. I can see myself celebrating that, and I do.

krudler · 24-12-2011 12:38AM

Edal wrote: »

I was passing a few of my neighbor's houses today with all the show-off christmas decorations up. They never go to mass, a few are anti-catholic, and some are actually atheists. The first people to slate the church with the all scandalous revelations.

Christmas is about the birth of Jesus, and nothing else.

Saint Nicholas who was from Turkey inspired Santa Claus and died 800 years ago and is buried in Newtown Jerpoint in Kilkenny.

A bit of a farce the whole thing.

Hypocritical or what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3y3QoFnqZc

Biggins · 24-12-2011 12:39AM

Edal wrote: »

But we're celebrating christmas and nothing more...

So your speaking for us all again?

Some of us are celebrating in a period of time that also involves/revolves around "Christmas" as a termed period of time.

Edal wrote: »

...The end of the year is a totally different. It's the end of the year, the four seasons, the natural periods into which the year is divided by the equinoxes and solstices or atmospheric conditions. I can see myself celebrating that, and I do.

...And thats your right - more power to you.

Edal · 24-12-2011 12:40AM

Biggins wrote: »

So your speaking for us all again?

Some of us are celebrating in a period of time that also involves/revolves around "Christmas" as a termed period of time.

No you are not.

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